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Ludicrous Irish prices

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭qz


    Hi and welcome to 2009.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭Cionád


    You would pick this up in the UK for €19K cleared. Here they are looking for €33,750!

    http://www.cbg.ie/Car_Detail.aspx?ID=2627635

    ah, but "THIS CAR HAS BEEN REDUCED FROM € 36750"

    Bargain :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    Think thats bad? Check this out!

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=909607

    These yokes have a list price of 28k + VAT!


  • Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    All their existing stock is cheaper because of currency movements.

    Prices will correct eventually when their weak currency means they are effectively paying more to bring cars into the UK. Cars they make themselves will get more expensive because they have to import the majority of the raw materials.

    This ignores the VRT and VAT differences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭Cionád


    Think thats bad? Check this out!

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=909607

    These yokes have a list price of 28k + VAT!

    :eek: You need a pimp license to buy that thing.

    ah - exclusive to blanchardstown :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭pipsqueak


    Think thats bad? Check this out!

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=909607

    These yokes have a list price of 28k + VAT!

    yea but in fairness it has BLACK alloyys!!! worth the 43k!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    Absolutely worth every penny of it. I agree.

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1186805

    And then there was this....:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Stevie Dakota


    Absolutely worth every penny of it. I agree.

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1186805

    And then there was this....:eek:

    Stock: This Alfa Romeo 156 was confirmed to be in stock yesterday

    should be changed to read...

    Stock: This Alfa Romeo 156 is confirmed to be in stock forever


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    Its an old model FFS!

    Whatever salesman ordered that into stock must surely be in car saleman heaven by now.... :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭pipsqueak


    http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Passat/1.9-TDI-/200840190222731/advert


    gonna be there a loooooooooooooonnngggggggggggg time!!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    Engine Management light on after 665 miles. Good Ole Alfa


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    pipsqueak wrote: »
    http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Passat/1.9-TDI-/200840190222731/advert


    gonna be there a loooooooooooooonnngggggggggggg time!!!!

    http://www.carzone.ie/search/Audi/A4/1.9-TDi/200835189819251/advert

    This has been there a long time...think it was something crazy like 15.5k until very, very recently!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Stevie Dakota



    Holy cow, is he mad? You would land a nearly new UK 1/9CDTi SRI 150 one for around €15K! They are nearly giving these away now, I reckon they are some of the best value in the UK at the mo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭Mena


    I'm wondering if this is a case of some people not yet fully realising where we are at in the economy or is it a case of they paid high prices for these cars and simply won't let them go at a loss, and the market be damned?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    Its a 3 year old car at the end of the day.

    If you were to get finance, you would only get it over three years. For a bit more money per month over 4 years you could have a new Insignia.

    Absolute mentalist!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Absolutely worth every penny of it. I agree.

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1186805

    And then there was this....:eek:
    not worth 20 if you ask me, and I'm in the market for one at the moment, these cars need to be driven and regularly serviced!
    testicle wrote: »
    Engine Management light on after 665 miles. Good Ole Alfa
    The car isn't turned over, the light on the dash always light up on a half key turn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    Ah it would be worth 20k anyhow, MAYBE 25k at a push. It is a nice car, but i would imagine that the Tax and running costs would be massive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    no, I can land a 05 with a service history, low mileage and all the little Alfa faults sorted for 15K - the advertised car is a 04/05 car that's been sitting up and only registered in May to save on emissions based VRT. I'm telling you it aint worth 20, 18k max is what that car should get.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    Maybe im wrong, but i've just noticed this now.

    The clocks in that Alfa are in MPH?? Was it imported?! It could not be sitting up since 04 could it??:eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Well it is the pre facelifted 156 which was only sold up to 2003/2004 afaik.

    Kph only speedo didn't come in until 2005 so potentially it is 6 years old. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Maybe im wrong, but i've just noticed this now.

    The clocks in that Alfa are in MPH?? Was it imported?! It could not be sitting up since 04 could it??:eek:

    Km in yellow, or do you mean that it's not reversed with kmph in larger font?
    CB4_1186805_5_745422.jpg


    "Car will be registered 2008 with 2 year warranty, Alfa Romeo 156 GTA 3.2 V6 (unregistered)." Hmmm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Maybe im wrong, but i've just noticed this now.

    The clocks in that Alfa are in MPH?? Was it imported?! It could not be sitting up since 04 could it??:eek:

    I think it's there since 03/04. Not joking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭maceocc2


    pipsqueak wrote: »
    http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Passat/1.9-TDI-/200840190222731/advert


    gonna be there a loooooooooooooonnngggggggggggg time!!!!

    I bought one of these a year ago for 17,000 with the same milage, 20k thats crazy talk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    I think it's there since 03/04. Not joking.

    That is absolutely mental. I have never ever heard of a car sitting on a forecourt for that long. It coulndt be there that long!

    Im also sceptical of the mileage too. Its unregistered but yet has 1000kms on it?:confused: Does anyone else not think thats a bit odd?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭JimmyCrackCorn!


    You would pick this up in the UK for €19K cleared. Here they are looking for €33,750!

    http://www.cbg.ie/Car_Detail.aspx?ID=2627635


    What were they new? Thats just madness. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭McSpud


    I don't know if Irish dealers mark their cars up so give scope to offer discounts but for me when price is too high I just don't bother even asking about.

    I have noticed for say 1 year old cars Irish dealers list at what seems to be maximum 25% discount on new car whereas UK prices listed at easily 33-50% discount off new listed price.

    I must admit I always knew some savings on imports but never seemed to be big enough to be worthwhile. Recently I did my calculations & realise the big savings to be made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    That Alfa GTA has been for sale for ever.

    It has also featured in several boards threads over the years. Unfortunatly the search function doesn't want to work with "GTA", otherwise I could even show you the old posts :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    That is absolutely mental. I have never ever heard of a car sitting on a forecourt for that long. It coulndt be there that long!

    Im also sceptical of the mileage too. Its unregistered but yet has 1000kms on it?:confused: Does anyone else not think thats a bit odd?

    Well 6 years of test drives can do that lol


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭Tropheus


    That is absolutely mental. I have never ever heard of a car sitting on a forecourt for that long. It coulndt be there that long!

    Im also sceptical of the mileage too. Its unregistered but yet has 1000kms on it?:confused: Does anyone else not think thats a bit odd?

    That car is on carzone at least two years and possibly more. It was being sold as new with 0 miles up to about 6 months ago.

    There's only one thing worse than a car with mega high milage and that's a car that has been sitting up for years without being driven.

    I don't know how it didn't shift if it's been around for 5+ years. You'd think there would have been some demand for it during the boom times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    . Its unregistered but yet has 1000kms on it?:confused: Does anyone else not think thats a bit odd?

    Not in the slightest. I'd imagine it's the first thing any young sales guy throws trade plates onto whenever he gets the chance. I'm surprised thats all it has.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭Omcd


    ksimpson wrote: »
    ...I don't know how it didn't shift if it's been around for 5+ years. You'd think there would have been some demand for it during the boom times.

    At €50K ? That's now. What were they looking for for it 5 years ago ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭Tropheus


    Omcd wrote: »
    At €50K ? That's now. What were they looking for for it 5 years ago ?

    I believe that was the list price at the time. The price hasn't changed since I saw it two years ago.

    What they're asking and what they'll get are two completely different things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    It looks like 52k in the window in one of the photos...

    Check this one out -

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1013208

    That is unbelievably over priced! You could nearly buy a new one!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭voxpop


    Same car - though it does have 74k miles for £6,495 in UK. Why would anyone py 50k for it here

    http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/810847.htm


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭samsemtex


    Stock: This Alfa Romeo 156 was confirmed to be in stock yesterday

    should be changed to read...

    Stock: This Alfa Romeo 156 is confirmed to be in stock forever

    I rang about it last week. The dealer has no intention of letting it go for less than €47k! The man is delusional. You can get low mileage owners club ones from england for about €12k. Its even the earliest model from 2003 with the small 305mm brakes and no xenons. You would have a Q-tronic 159 with the same engine for not much more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    From piece in today's Irish Times Motoring supplement (one line summary: UK cars bad, Irish cars good):

    There are real fears that the situation will worsen if there isn’t a fast solution to the poor start to the year. Dealers are offering heavy discounts on the sticker price of their cars – it seems that all the Irish customers need to do is ask.

    WTF is Irish dealers' obsession with overinflated sticker prices?? If you're willing to sell the car for less, advertise the fact!!! Enough of the cloak and dagger bull**** - you'll sell SFA that way these days! e.g. had a look the other day at a poor condition 1 year old Jaguar XF at Drive in Cork - sticker price 7 grand more than a NEW car!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭ronnie3585


    samsemtex wrote: »
    Its even the earliest model from 2003 with the small 305mm brakes and no xenons.

    It gets worse!:eek:
    Mena wrote: »
    I'm wondering if this is a case of some people not yet fully realising where we are at in the economy or is it a case of they paid high prices for these cars and simply won't let them go at a loss, and the market be damned?

    This is a question I would like to know the answer to. Is it a case that dealers are deluded and/or holding on for dear life in the hope that things will pick up or is it that they would be making a loss if they were to drop prices further?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    'Friend' of mine is looking for..

    13500 for a 5door golf GTI with 75000 miles.

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    ClioV6 wrote: »
    'Friend' of mine is looking for..

    13500 for a 5door golf GTI with 75000 miles.

    :D

    12 points?:P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    12 points?:P

    no, 11!


    (seriously!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    ClioV6 wrote: »
    no, 11!


    (seriously!)

    I've seen it somewhere lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭McSpud


    WTF is Irish dealers' obsession with overinflated sticker prices?? If you're willing to sell the car for less, advertise the fact!!! Enough of the cloak and dagger bull**** - you'll sell SFA that way these days!

    I 100% agree with that. Dealers need to realise the time that you could trick someone into paying high sticker price are long gone. As a consumer I see high sticker price just don't bother checking the car out as not worth my time. I am sure dealers will suggest otherwise but what would I know only being a consumer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    +1

    same here my other half was looking for a car and most of the stuff down here was sat on the forecourts for 12 months + but no dealer would budge much on price in the end bought an 06 for the money i would have got an 05 for down here which were up at 2k more than the car we bought from ni (which she may have bought if the price would have come down a bit ) but delaers here still want you to pay the sticker price minus a few hundred quid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    Does anyone fancy a stab at explaining this?

    http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1058299


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    also been for sale for years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    I was actually in there yesterday and mentioned it to the salesman about how long it was there...looks an awful bloody yoke


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭legalbird12




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭samsemtex


    steve06 wrote: »
    also been for sale for years.

    That car dealership deserves to go out of business for being that stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 935 ✭✭✭samsemtex



    thats not that bad to be fair. Its a relatively low mileage, convertible, well specced 3-series. Its a 330ci as well which is the best engine you can get in them. I think it is a bit overpriced but there is much worse out there than that.


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