Ambulance Staff On Duty

by8auj6csd3ioq

Are ambulance staff allowed to go shopping while apparently on duty in uniform and with a radio thing plugged in their ear? I have seen one in a supermarket with a trolley of shopping and uni and radio thing.

I have also seen emergency ambulance used to collect dry cleaning? What if they get an emergency call.

And an out of hours gp service car apparently used to take the wife shopping

Looks very bad if they are on duty.

dredre

Jewel Acidic Hamstring wrote: »

Are ambulance staff allowed to go shopping while apparently on duty in uniform and with a radio thing plugged in their ear? I have seen one in a supermarket with a trolley of shopping and uni and radio thing.

I have also seen emergency ambulance used to collect dry cleaning? What if they get an emergency call.

And an out of hours gp service car apparently used to take the wife shopping

Looks very bad if they are on duty.

It is possible that they were on PTS duty and waiting for a patient to finish their OPD appointment or similar. It is also possible that they were mitching

eroo

It's also possible they are..human!:rolleyes:

How dare they!? Down with this sort of thing!!!!



(Careful now)

Eru

Jewel Acidic Hamstring wrote: »

Are ambulance staff allowed to go shopping while apparently on duty in uniform and with a radio thing plugged in their ear? I have seen one in a supermarket with a trolley of shopping and uni and radio thing.

I have also seen emergency ambulance used to collect dry cleaning? What if they get an emergency call.

And an out of hours gp service car apparently used to take the wife shopping

Looks very bad if they are on duty.

Well you need to consider some things. For starters, are they allowed eat during their shift? Do they, in fact need to eat or simple get plugged in overnight to recharge?

Do they get breaks like other workers? Perhaps they shouldnt!


Hmmm, maybe he leave the dry cleaning behind and goes to the call? wow thats lame.

Surely what a GP does with his own car is his business no?

APM

it may even be possible that they were on lunch break and kindly informed the control center that they'd stay listening to the radio in case any calls came up in case every other ambulance in the area was busy at calls/hospitals....so in fact going beyond the call of duty.

Definately not a talking point here....

Eru

APM wrote: »

it may even be possible that they were on lunch break and kindly informed the control center that they'd stay listening to the radio in case any calls came up in case every other ambulance in the area was busy at calls/hospitals....so in fact going beyond the call of duty.

Definately not a talking point here....

Thats crazy talk! :eek:

Bang Bang

Jewel Acidic Hamstring wrote: »

Are ambulance staff allowed to go shopping while apparently on duty in uniform and with a radio thing plugged in their ear? I have seen one in a supermarket with a trolley of shopping and uni and radio thing.


Looks very bad if they are on duty.

You're not suggesting that they may be shopping for station food, what station are now allowing Paramedics eat???:eek:

I haven't eaten in almost ten years now:rolleyes:

by8auj6csd3ioq

Eru wrote: »

Well you need to consider some things. For starters, are they allowed eat during their shift? Do they, in fact need to eat or simple get plugged in overnight to recharge?

I don'y know i asked. Can they be on duty and shopping

Hmmm, maybe he leave the dry cleaning behind and goes to the call? wow thats lame.

that is just making fun of the question. It was a serious question. Should the ambulance be at the hospital in case it is needed or at the supermarket. Touched a nerve?

Surely what a GP does with his own car is his business no?

not hs own car, a car for out of hours work, and it was not a gp driving it. either i did not explain very well or people do not want to hear any criticism

by8auj6csd3ioq

Bang Bang wrote: »

You're not suggesting that they may be shopping for station food, what station are now allowing Paramedics eat???:eek:

I haven't eaten in almost ten years now:rolleyes:

maybe that is why i asked, can you not reply without being sarcastic or are the ES so sensitive

by8auj6csd3ioq

APM wrote: »

it may even be possible that they were on lunch break and kindly informed the control center that they'd stay listening to the radio in case any calls came up in case every other ambulance in the area was busy at calls/hospitals....so in fact going beyond the call of duty.

Definately not a talking point here....

could be question is are they allowed to take the ambulance

Paulzx

Well if you can figure out how they can answer any calls that come up without taking the ambulance with them your a genius

Mr Jinx

Jewel Acidic Hamstring wrote: »

could be question is are they allowed to take the ambulance

What kind of ambulance were they?
If they were a private ambulance company, then yeah they can do what they like, there a private company.

by8auj6csd3ioq

Thanks for your reasoned response which unlike others does not poke fun at the question or attempt to cover any possible critisism with sarcasm

Mr Jinx wrote: »

What kind of ambulance were they?
If they were a private ambulance company, then yeah they can do what they like, there a private company.

It was a hospital ambulance and the person in the shop with the trolley was in uniform with a radio in one ear. He may well have been doing hospital work, i never said he wasn't. My question was if they are allowed to use an ambulance for transport. Likewise are they allowed use an ambulance for picking up dry cleaning. Maybe they are, maybe the hospital is covered. It concerned me because of the possibility than an ambulance may be needed urgently at the hospital. If the ambulance was on call when he was shopping would there be a delay if he had to return to hospital to pick up anyone -nurse- if a call came.

Eru

Jewel Acidic Hamstring wrote: »

Thanks for your reasoned response which unlike others does not poke fun at the question or attempt to cover any possible critisism with sarcasm

It was a hospital ambulance and the person in the shop with the trolley was in uniform with a radio in one ear. He may well have been doing hospital work, i never said he wasn't. My question was if they are allowed to use an ambulance for transport. Likewise are they allowed use an ambulance for picking up dry cleaning. Maybe they are, maybe the hospital is covered. It concerned me because of the possibility than an ambulance may be needed urgently at the hospital. If the ambulance was on call when he was shopping would there be a delay if he had to return to hospital to pick up anyone -nurse- if a call came.

A, Thats exactly what an ambulance is for, transport of patients.

B, Most ambulances I know collect patients and bring them TO hospital not away from them. Having all the ambulances in the station or hospital isnt really an effective method now is it? Or maybe your on to something here. Maybe all es staff should wait in the station for a call. Save on petrol anyway.

C, Your question is not serious. Your a troll here trying to pick arguements and we have every right to respond with stupid answers to your stupid questions. Maybe instead of running down es staff you could volunteer and do even 10% of the time we do helping people

boomer_ie

Jewel Acidic Hamstring wrote: »

It was a hospital ambulance and the person in the shop with the trolley was in uniform with a radio in one ear. He may well have been doing hospital work, i never said he wasn't. My question was if they are allowed to use an ambulance for transport. Likewise are they allowed use an ambulance for picking up dry cleaning. Maybe they are, maybe the hospital is covered. It concerned me because of the possibility than an ambulance may be needed urgently at the hospital. If the ambulance was on call when he was shopping would there be a delay if he had to return to hospital to pick up anyone -nurse- if a call came.

When you say "hospital ambulance" I assume you mean one of the minibuses that are used by the likes of "Donneybrook Hospital" and "Leopardstown Hospital". These are not Ambulances in the correct sense but are used for PTS work for the most part. I would guess in this case that the usual supplier of food let the hospital down and they needed to collect shopping for the lunch/dinner? alternatively the driver could have been doing his own shopping during his own break.

Either way by your description he remained in contact with someone if he was needed.

by8auj6csd3ioq

boomer_ie wrote: »

When you say "hospital ambulance" I assume you mean one of the minibuses that are used by the likes of "Donneybrook Hospital" and "Leopardstown Hospital". These are not Ambulances in the correct sense but are used for PTS work for the most part. I would guess in this case that the usual supplier of food let the hospital down and they needed to collect shopping for the lunch/dinner? alternatively the driver could have been doing his own shopping during his own break.

Either way by your description he remained in contact with someone if he was needed.

No i am not i am talking about a real ambulance and am not trolling as some one said. Why would i waste my time trolling here. I will ask the hospital if they are allowed to do this

boomer_ie

Jewel Acidic Hamstring wrote: »

No i am not i am talking about a real ambulance and am not trolling as some one said. Why would i waste my time trolling here. I will ask the hospital if they are allowed to do this

"Real Ambulances" are not attached to hospitals, so if it said hospital on the side as you implied its not a "real ambulance"

by8auj6csd3ioq

Your question is not serious. Your a troll here trying to pick arguements and we have every right to respond with stupid answers to your stupid questions. Maybe instead of running down es staff you could volunteer and do even 10% of the time we do helping people

reported.

Eru

Jewel Acidic Hamstring wrote: »

reported.

ignored

Bang Bang

Jewel Acidic Hamstring wrote: »

It was a hospital ambulance and the person in the shop with the trolley was in uniform with a radio in one ear. He may well have been doing hospital work, i never said he wasn't. My question was if they are allowed to use an ambulance for transport. Likewise are they allowed use an ambulance for picking up dry cleaning. Maybe they are, maybe the hospital is covered. It concerned me because of the possibility than an ambulance may be needed urgently at the hospital. If the ambulance was on call when he was shopping would there be a delay if he had to return to hospital to pick up anyone -nurse- if a call came.

You are somewhat out of touch with the Ambulance service.

The Ambulance service are not attached to ANY hospital.
Nurse's are no longer used on Ambulances, this practice stopped many years ago in the bigger towns and cities, and more recently in more rural areas, recently as in within the past ten years. Never the case in most areas have nurses been used.
No reflection on a nurses qualification but Ambulances are crewed with fully trained state registered Paramedics and are therefore experts in thier chosen field, and that is the delivery of Pre-Hospital Trauma Life Support.

Yes Ambulances are often called upon to transport patients from one facility to another, remember though that the patient is in a controlled environment so the call for the ambulance is usually given about an hour before it is required.

When crews are picking up food supplies for the station or themselves, yes we do eat, then they inform Ambulance Control. Mobilisation from a supermarket/shop takes no longer than mobilising from the station.

My advice to you before you post comments like "Looks bad if they are on duty" would be to find out more about the Ambulance Service prior to posting those types of comments.

How did you honestly expect to be taken seriously if it was obvious that you are so out of touch with the Ambulance Service you asked a, there I say, silly question which was always going to get a silly answer.

Private Ambulances are totally seperate from the HSE or DFB who provide THE emergency 112/999 Ambulance Service.

by8auj6csd3ioq

Eru wrote: »

ignored

idiot

by8auj6csd3ioq

My advice to you before you post comments like "Looks bad if they are on duty" would be to find out more about the Ambulance Service prior to posting those types of comments.

i still think it looks bad to have trained personnel shopping if on duty, rergardless of where they are based.

How did you honestly expect to be taken seriously if it was obvious that you are so out of touch with the Ambulance Service you asked a, there I say, silly question which was always going to get a silly answer.

it was a genuine question though not a troll

Bogger77

Jewel Acidic Hamstring wrote: »

idiot

Reported

metman

Jewel Acidic Hamstring wrote: »

......or are the ES so sensitive

How many times will people parachute onto this forum, make inflammatory posts and then use the above phrase when regular contributors (who work in the ES in often difficult, life-threatening and harrowing circumstances) get irritated at the complete lack of understanding displayed or stupidity of the relevant post.

I for one am growing tired of this.

Magee here's an idea for your next post: I saw a Guard getting a bag of chips while in uniform. Is this legal? Discuss.

Give me strength :rolleyes:

Celticfire

Reminds me of the time a complaint was phoned in by a member of the public. Their gripe..... " I saw two men in an ambulance laughing , that's not very professional"

Jack, you worry about doing your own job ,we'll worry about doing ours.

Trojan911

Duplicated.

Trojan911

metman wrote: »

I saw a Guard getting a bag of chips while in uniform. Is this legal? Discuss. Give me strength :rolleyes:

Good question.

Now, I suppose it would depend on what type of chip it is & where it has come from, whether it is an Oven chip or Deep Fry as we must be careful not to discriminate. (Sec 1 (a) Chip Act 2009 make this a Shedule 1 offence).

We must also consider if the Guard was seizing this bag as evidence at the time or was it to be consumed in the canteen at refs or was indeed, intended for the Custody skippers tea.............

Jack,

Does it really matter if the Ambulance crew were doing what you said they were doing. They were there, ready to deal.

I would worry if I was in the back of the ambulance in the middle of a cardiac arrest & they pulled over & nipped into the local shop because they forgot to do the Lotto.

timmywex

Everyoene should take a chill pill, valid question or not, just answer it would be easier!

Ambulances are not assigned to hospitals, so there base isnt always at a hospital, they are part of the national ambulance service, generally only picking up and laying down people at hosiptals

They are not staffed by nurses anymore, and are in no way a drain on the hosiptal

Between calls they can do such things (afaik) as long as they are available for callout and in contact with control, which they were in your case.


So nothing was wrong with what they did

Tango Alpha 51

Bang Bang wrote: »

You are somewhat out of touch with the Ambulance service.

The Ambulance service are not attached to ANY hospital.
Nurse's are no longer used on Ambulances, this practice stopped many years ago in the bigger towns and cities, and more recently in more rural areas, recently as in within the past ten years. Never the case in most areas have nurses been used.
No reflection on a nurses qualification but Ambulances are crewed with fully trained state registered Paramedics and are therefore experts in thier chosen field, and that is the delivery of Pre-Hospital Trauma Life Support.

Yes Ambulances are often called upon to transport patients from one facility to another, remember though that the patient is in a controlled environment so the call for the ambulance is usually given about an hour before it is required.

When crews are picking up food supplies for the station or themselves, yes we do eat, then they inform Ambulance Control. Mobilisation from a supermarket/shop takes no longer than mobilising from the station.

My advice to you before you post comments like "Looks bad if they are on duty" would be to find out more about the Ambulance Service prior to posting those types of comments.

How did you honestly expect to be taken seriously if it was obvious that you are so out of touch with the Ambulance Service you asked a, there I say, silly question which was always going to get a silly answer.

Private Ambulances are totally seperate from the HSE or DFB who provide THE emergency 112/999 Ambulance Service.

+1 !!!!!

dredre

To be fair, this is quite entertaining.

Would that be curry chips or plain?

foxtrot-oscar

I once saw the local dfb lads drive by coming back from a call eating ice pops, i was livid i would have died for a choc ice!

No doubt they were mobile and available, and if a call came in eighter there would have been alot of brain freeze or the ice creams would be dumped and they go to the call.

Same goes for this guy, proberably coming back from hospital, picking up his lunch, in contact with control so if a call came in that shopping basket would be dumped and off he went.


Would you say the same if you saw the local bank manager on his break, in his suit with his name badge, picking up his lunch, what if someone needed to be authorised for an over draft huh??


You seem out of touch with how things work in the modern world, but at the end of the day it was a person grabbing some food while on their break from work

Eru

Jewel Acidic Hamstring wrote: »

idiot

Taken off my ignore list just so I can report then put back on ignore list.

Mine wasnt a breach of the charter, the above is!:D

Tango Alpha 51

Same ****e, different day, have even heard of some of our crews being complained by members of the public for drinking coffee whilst in the ambulance & imagine they were in uniform :rolleyes::rolleyes:. Maybe ourselves, AGS & DFB are really like RoboCop we sit in the vehicle, drink our sludge & get charged whilst the vehicle is running

civdef

Jack Magee banned for a week for personal abuse.

civdef

Ban extended to forever due to abusive response by PM.

metman

civdef wrote: »

Ban extended to forever due to abusive response by PM.

Ouch!