Ride of The Week!

cson

No its not Scarlett Johansson.

I figure a thread similar to what they have on attheraces for the rides of the week wouldn't be a bad idea.

No disputes here from me on this one, without a doubt Ruby Walsh's on Brave Inca, unbelieveable horsemanship. And to think there was a thread in this forum in the summer saying he was finished. His effort in the race beforehand to get Conem up by a neck smacked of brilliance too.

dotsflan

a lot of credit has to be given to colm murphy for sticking with this horse!! to get him back racing was a brilliant achievement but to win a race like yesterdays is just remarkable fair play!! as for ride of the week i cant diagree about ruby's ride but i think joe tizzard deserves a mention for the ride aboard joe lively, the horse made a hash of the second last but joe got the horse composed brilliantly before the last and stayed on well to the line!!

corban

i have to agree about ruby's ride on brave inca, it was perfect.....
a good day for ruby....i was beginning to think leopardstown was becoming an unhappy hunting ground for ruby...but that was an excellent ride, set it up perfectly...

allthedoyles

Ruby can certainly make a bad horse look good .

The ride on Brave Inca was class

00dyel

have to agree, both River Liane and Muirhead both threw down challenges when hard on the bridle, but Ruby just kept asking Brave Inca to find that bit more which he duly delivered.

ziggy

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mdwexford

I think the horse deserved more credit than the jockey in the Irish Champion Hurdle, he just keeps on finding, you just make plenty of use of him and thats it, i reckon any of the better jockeys would have won on him. It was a decent ride of course but AP would have done the same.

I agree Tizzards ride on Joe Lively was good, i thought he was beaten for certain jumping the last but he galvanised him very well to get back up.

knighted_1

ok here i am and im going to say what a lot of you missed -

how was it the ride of the week when he had the assistance of TWO pacemakers ? i want to take nothing away from the horse cause it was a joy to watch but murphy declared 2 pacemakers to HELP bring the pace along to suit brave inca as when RUBY rode it in the christmas hurdle they said there was no pace (or false), ruby done nothing out of the ordinary to make the horse win so wasnt ride of the week but was best winner of the week -


and to the poster who said ruby makes a bad horse look good? wake up -brave inca will be remembered for 50 years as one of the best hurdlers ever -we are coming to the back end of a golden era in hurdling ranks ,never in our recent history have we ever had such a band of top class hurdlers ,some of who have won champions others who havent,-10 grade 1 s?

stand in line please if ur going to abuse me

allthedoyles

knighted_1 wrote: »

and to the poster who said ruby makes a bad horse look good? wake up -brave inca will be remembered for 50 years as one of the best hurdlers ever -

I was talking about Ruby Walsh ..........not Brave Inca

IMO ..Ruby has won many races on bad horses

jossnjuice

think everyone got the jockey right but not the race......think rubys ride on big bucks was fantastic

CiaranC

Enjoyed his ride on Conem immensely. Then put the few bob I won off that one on Brave Inca. Enjoyed that one too

knighted_1

allthedoyles wrote: »

I was talking about Ruby Walsh ..........not Brave Inca

IMO ..Ruby has won many races on bad horses

sorry ,took it u meant that ride

Shan75

I don't think Ruby's ride was anything out of the ordinary although I suppose it was good.He showed good strength when he needed it.On the ratings only Sublimity was ahead and he would have hated those conditions.

You could argue Joe Tizzard's was better as he got a horse to win against proven better horses.However the conditions played a large part in this also.

If a horse isn't good enough on the day it doesn't matter who is on board.Many times you hear people suggesting Ruby,AP,Carberry etc etc are no good because they have had a string of losers and then a week later they are the best thing ever because they have won on, possibly, the best horse in the race.

All this best rides stuff is alright but I wouldn't take it too seriously.In fact sometimes you could argue that the best ride in a race was on one of the losing horses simply because the horse never had a chance anyway and may have over-achieved by finishing second,third or even sixth or seventh.

Cantoris

dotsflan wrote: »

a lot of credit has to be given to colm murphy for sticking with this horse!!

Particularly after every "expert" told him and the owners they were wrong to bring him back.......but sure what would they know about the horse.

Frazzled

Cantoris wrote: »

Particularly after every "expert" told him and the owners they were wrong to bring him back.......but sure what would they know about the horse.

I must admit that when the injurt news about Inca came out, it looked huge odds against him returning as a Grade 1 winner. The first bit of credit must go to Colm and the vets that spotted the injury very early on so that corrective action was taken immediately. The second bit of credit then goes to the entire team for bringing him back slowly and giving him every chance to make a full recovery. I think there were rumours that he would be back towards the tail end of last season but this proved not to be the case and the patience shown has reaped its rewards.

Cantoris had mentioned to me that he was going very well at home before the Fairyhouse run, but I still could not believe how well he went that day and how well he travelled during the race. The softly softly approach that seems to have been taken ahead of the Christmas assignment once again has proved to be the correct course of action as the much discussed "bounce" factor has been avoided. This last performance indicated that the horse is as good or bearly as good as ever and it is a tremendous achievement.

As for the ride given by Ruby, it was a good ride but nothing that stood out among many others that he has given horses over the years. The credit goes to the horse and the team behind him. Ruby is booked because you expect a top class ride from him and that is why he is at pinnacle of his profession.

corny

I don't know why you all seem to like the rides on horses who are confirmed stayers. The key to winning on Joe Lively and Brave Inca is get out in front when it matters and let the horse do the rest. Any jockey would have done the same on either horse. Hardly 'great horsemanship' on Brave Inca when he's been doing the exact same thing for the last 4 or 5 years, ie pass me if you can.

I'd actually go for Dennis O' Regan on Tidal Bay because i think he's an awful tricky ride. He knows him well and although he was beaten into third throughout the race he never allowed the horse lose interest which proved vital in the end for us EW punters.:)

Cantoris

corny wrote: »

I don't know why you all seem to like the rides on horses who are confirmed stayers. The key to winning on Joe Lively and Brave Inca is get out in front when it matters and let the horse do the rest. Any jockey would have done the same on either horse. Hardly 'great horsemanship' on Brave Inca when he's been doing the exact same thing for the last 4 or 5 years, ie pass me if you can.

Not sure about that, Ruby went too hard too early on him at Cheltenham in 2007. Just look at the way he faded on the run-in and was nearly caught for second, although I still believe that he was feeling his leg.

dotsflan

corny wrote: »

I don't know why you all seem to like the rides on horses who are confirmed stayers. The key to winning on Joe Lively and Brave Inca is get out in front when it matters and let the horse do the rest. Any jockey would have done the same on either horse. Hardly 'great horsemanship' on Brave Inca when he's been doing the exact same thing for the last 4 or 5 years, ie pass me if you can.

i get what you mean about joe lively being a confirmed stayer and that he is an easy ride from the front but he lost 1st position about a furlong/furlong 1/2 out to halcon generladis, one of the most established stayers in horse racing, 26 plds worse off with him and joe tizzard still managed to get him up!!!

corny

dotsflan wrote: »

corny wrote: »

I don't know why you all seem to like the rides on horses who are confirmed stayers. The key to winning on Joe Lively and Brave Inca is get out in front when it matters and let the horse do the rest. Any jockey would have done the same on either horse. Hardly 'great horsemanship' on Brave Inca when he's been doing the exact same thing for the last 4 or 5 years, ie pass me if you can.

i get what you mean about joe lively being a confirmed stayer and that he is an easy ride from the front but he lost 1st position about a furlong/furlong 1/2 out to halcon generladis, one of the most established stayers in horse racing, 26 plds worse off with him and joe tizzard still managed to get him up!!!

The horse picked himself up. Tizzard is no stronger in the saddle than the average jockey. What would you expect him to do pull the horse up after the mistake? He kept going but if Joe Lively failed to pick up despite Tizzards efforts you and i wouldn't be talkin about this. No one would have nominate him for ride of the week. It was all down to the horse!