How much does a pro need to make per annum

soundsham

was just wondering what a pro would need to make to cover all costs for the year on the european tour

obviously sponsorship and prize money combined

does anyone know what makes the guys break even

have to be thinking €100,000ish

WHIP IT!

I remember hearing a young pro who'd just qualified from Q-School joking that a veteran player had said to him: "Congratulations, you've just won the right to spend stg£50,000 playing golf for a year..."

PhilipMarlowe

Not sure on the costs because I guess it depends on where they travel to and where they stay etc... but to retain their card last year, they had to make in excess of €220,000 in prizemoney

soundsham

thanks but not asking about keeping the card thats straight forward

talkin about joe average who say is the reg journeyman type not the top of the pile guy

1916

You'd have to be talking:-

Flights €500'ish
Accomodation €700-10000'ish
Caddy €750'ish
Misc €500'ish

Thats €2500-€2800 for each tournament just to break even, I suppose if anyone knows Paul McGinley, he should just about know, now a days..

PhilipMarlowe

Ouch!

Trampas

They really on sponsors alot. I remember hearing a couple of years ago players were getting around a grand a week to use TM clubs. The strange thing about it was a lot of pros where using TM clubs.

But it is not cheap playing on the tour.

soundsham

1916 wrote: »

You'd have to be talking:-

Flights €500'ish
Accomodation €700-10000'ish
Caddy €750'ish
Misc €500'ish

Thats €2500-€2800 for each tournament just to break even, I suppose if anyone knows Paul McGinley, he should just about know, now a days..

ouch again!!!
€500 misc per week just thinkin how i could explain this to my accountant

appreciate the effort on the breakdown
but i guess their is a lot of other costs like medical and coaching and a lot of other things

just was wondering if anyone had came across a figure that was generally accepted as making the whole (ad)venture worthwile on the monetary terms

1916

Trampas wrote: »

They really on sponsors alot. I remember hearing a couple of years ago players were getting around a grand a week to use TM clubs.

I remember Setanta Golf did a thing last October on their guess as to what a particular player earned for endorsements (a low ranked player i.e. in the 100-150 on the money list). What I can recall is that a hat sponsorship would earn $500 p.w., if he finished top 10/20 or something it would rise to $2500

1916

soundsham wrote: »

ouch again!!!
€500 misc per week just thinkin how i could explain this to my accountant

I wouldn't worry about an accountant if you were only breaking even, thats one expense you could avoid..

PhilipMarlowe

I didn't mean 'ouch' to the cost, I meant 'ouch' to the "ask Paul McGinley" comment... very caustic
I'd say that costs are very high and anyone just about retaining their card is making a good living but nothing extraordinary... especially considering what would be in store for them if they lose the card.

soundsham

i think everybody underdstood the "ouch" was aimed at PmcG

Blunder

As has been said above, Roughly 3k will need to be earned to cover the costs of each tournament.

However to cover the costs of the year they'd to earn an extra 3k a tournament to cover the costs of Mortgages, Cars, Children, Wives, food on weeks when they arent playing, Management company costs, Coaches, etc. The 250k required to retain the card for a player and the sponsorship deals will allow them to live comfortably but nothing over the top.