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YTO Tractors

  • 23-01-2009 11:14am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭


    Below is a copy of emails I sent/recieved from the manuacterers in China and their replies, apparently the YTO tractor is modelled on the fiat agri and uses a perkins diesel, the price seems really good, has any one got any knowledge of these tractors. The english dealer wants about £25k, but it seems worth it to import direct from the chinese.

    What do you think ?



    I am interested in buying a YTO tractor 90 hp, 4wd with a front end loader. Could you give me a price for it and the cost of shipping to Cork, Ireland thank you Colin Rowlands

    Thanks for your inquiry. Here is the price of tractor:

    YTO tractor 90 hp, 4wd, EUR12155. FOB China per unit.
    Front end loader. EUR2100. per unit FOB. China per unit.

    Please advise if you only need one tractor and one front loader? and if you need cabin, air conditioning for the tractor?

    Best Regards,

    Liu Li
    Sales Manager
    Dear Liu Li,

    I only require 1 tractor complete with front end loader, from the details on the website the YTO X904 included a cab, air-con etc.




    Thanks for your email.

    The cabin and A/C is available at EUR670.

    Sway bar is optional at EUR60.

    The freight for a YTO X904 with front loader to Cork, Ireland is USD4950. In fact, we have to use a full 40ft HQ container, you can still add another tractor in.

    I wait for your order confirmation.

    Best Regards,

    Liu Li
    Sales Manager


    Dear Liu Li,

    I only require 1 tractor complete with front end loader, from the details on the website the YTO X904 included a cab, air-con etc.



Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    colrow wrote: »
    Below is a copy of emails I sent/recieved from the manuacterers in China and their replies, apparently the YTO tractor is modelled on the fiat agri and uses a perkins diesel, the price seems really good, has any one got any knowledge of these tractors. The english dealer wants about £25k, but it seems worth it to import direct from the chinese.

    What do you think ?



    I am interested in buying a YTO tractor 90 hp, 4wd with a front end loader. Could you give me a price for it and the cost of shipping to Cork, Ireland thank you Colin Rowlands

    Thanks for your inquiry. Here is the price of tractor:

    YTO tractor 90 hp, 4wd, EUR12155. FOB China per unit.
    Front end loader. EUR2100. per unit FOB. China per unit.

    Please advise if you only need one tractor and one front loader? and if you need cabin, air conditioning for the tractor?

    Best Regards,

    Liu Li
    Sales Manager
    Dear Liu Li,

    I only require 1 tractor complete with front end loader, from the details on the website the YTO X904 included a cab, air-con etc.




    Thanks for your email.

    The cabin and A/C is available at EUR670.

    Sway bar is optional at EUR60.

    The freight for a YTO X904 with front loader to Cork, Ireland is USD4950. In fact, we have to use a full 40ft HQ container, you can still add another tractor in.

    I wait for your order confirmation.

    Best Regards,

    Liu Li
    Sales Manager


    Dear Liu Li,

    I only require 1 tractor complete with front end loader, from the details on the website the YTO X904 included a cab, air-con etc.



    I looked at their website. I would have a lot of concerns. Firstly, most tractors made in China are poorly manufactured and only conform to Chinese standards rather than European ones. While it may be modeled on Fiat Agri, its still made in China, and not manufactured to Fiat Agri standards.

    Next you say that it has a perkins engine, but the YT website says "adotping the British technology-based 4-cylinder turbo-charged engine". This means that the tractor has a chinese made copy of the perkins engine.

    The chinese are the best in the world at copying things. I can't think of one thing that they have copied in the past being as good as the original - so why would this be different?

    It has a max speed of 27.2 kmph - nothing near the standard 40k of similar sized tractors being sold in Ireland.

    It gives no details about spool valves, oil or dry clutch?

    Also no details about the speed of the oil pump.

    It has a direct injection diesel engine with no turbo - it would be hard on fuel. Also, you would have to be sure that it conforms to emission regulations or you may not be able to register it here.

    It is rated to lift 17kn which is just over 1.7 tonne - very poor in comparison to tractors here - most 90hp tractors are rated to lift over 3 tonne.

    Where would you buy the parts for servicing?

    Would you get a warranty with it and if something went wrong would you have to put it in a container and send it back to them to have it repaired? Or if an Irish garage could repair it, where would they get the parts?

    When it would arrive at the irish port in the container, would you have to pay a huge import tax on it before the customs would release it?
    (I buy contact lenses in the USA for $20 and when they arrive here by post, the customs send me a bill for €12 before they will release them to me - how much would a tractor be?)

    On I personal note, I'm a firm believer that you get what you pay for. I have never seen a quality machine come out of china. At the end of the day, if you buy it for €15k and use it for 5 years and put 3000 hours on it, will it be worth €5k in 2014? I doubt it.

    Now you may have hundreds of reasons for buying it, and you may have your mind made up already. But I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭colrow


    Yeah, I'm a tractor novice, and I'm sure its fools gold, it was the price seemed so cheap, I've got an old case 885 and it does what i want, lifting silage, spiking silage and shovel **** in the **** pit, and it drives my log splitter, it only does 12 mph, but I don't use it on the road much, its an old rust bucket but it starts and does all I want. What I'd really like is a John Deere !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭cormywormy


    hi i somewhat disagree with reilig, parts are easy got for these tractors.The main irish and uk importer is rabeng in the uk. They keep alot of parts in stock.if not they will get the parts in china. I was looking at importing these but changed my mind. The x904 is based on the fiat 80-90 i think its the 80-90.Look at their website www.rabeng.co.uk. Richard i think his name is.E-mail richard their tractors comfirm to EU emissons regs.I would buy it in england not china. This is just my view.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭fastrac


    I agree 100% with Reilig.Steer well clear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭Turbury


    cormywormy wrote: »
    hi i somewhat disagree with reilig, parts are easy got for these tractors.The main irish and uk importer is rabeng in the uk. They keep alot of parts in stock.if not they will get the parts in china. I was looking at importing these but changed my mind. The x904 is based on the fiat 80-90 i think its the 80-90.Look at their website www.rabeng.co.uk. Richard i think his name is.E-mail richard their tractors comfirm to EU emissons regs.I would buy it in england not china. This is just my view.

    Did some research on these myself last year. You need to be very careful when ordering if buying direct from China - there is a standard tractor and a Euro model. The standard model is very very very basic, Euro model had "extras" such as padding on the inside of the cab, optional pick up hitch and I think optional shuttle. A few other things as well like A/C.

    There is/was a guy in Kilkenny selling the X904, he had them advertised on the Farmers Journal and had one on show in a field beside the Ploughing championships this year.
    The finish on the tractor was quite good, it had a loader but it was both badly made and finished. IMO by the time you pay for the shipping for one tractor and the customs duty and VAT its starting to get pricy for what it is.


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