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Man U - FA Cup 3rd Rnd

  • 22-01-2009 1:48pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭


    Harry is going to play bench warmers and kids for this one...Quote: "It will be a real very, very weakened team going to Old Trafford because we play Stoke on Tuesday".

    Tbo, I can't blame him. Our squad is so weak and depleted that we can't afford any more injuries. The players need to focus 100% on getting results in the league and climbing the table into safety.

    It's only goal difference keeping us out of the bottom three presently however our few wins and we could be in the top ten.

    To say the bottom half of the table is tight would be an understatement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    I'm glad I've had to blow this out due work, it will be an excruciating 90 mins to watch.

    Apparently the kids are off in Mexico for some tournament so little chance of the likes of Bostock or Parett making an appearance, so what's your team?

    Cesar/Alnwick (don't matter, both are toilet]
    Gunter
    Rocha
    Dawson
    Bale
    Taarabt
    Zokora
    O'Hara
    dos Santos
    Pav
    Campbell

    ?

    Fcuk me...:eek:

    King won't be risked, Woodgate picked up a knock last night. Can't see Bentley feature if Lennon is a risk for Tuesday night (anyone know?) and Defoe will be rested with the league game in mind. Can see Zokora play, as he'll be dropped for Palacios anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭Hatch99


    I'll go with

    Gomes
    Gunter
    Rocha
    Hudd
    BAE

    Taarabt
    Zokora
    Jenas if fit
    Bale

    Campbell
    Bent if fit

    It could go either way, 1. we get fcukin battered out of sight, or 2.they play with some pride, hold United for 50 mins and cave in, either way I cant see anything but a home win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,058 ✭✭✭tippspur


    I'm glad I've had to blow this out due work, it will be an excruciating 90 mins to watch.

    Apparently the kids are off in Mexico for some tournament so little chance of the likes of Bostock or Parett making an appearance, so what's your team?

    Cesar/Alnwick (don't matter, both are toilet]
    Gunter
    Rocha
    Dawson
    Bale
    Taarabt
    Zokora
    O'Hara
    dos Santos
    Pav
    Campbell

    ?

    Fcuk me...:eek:

    King won't be risked, Woodgate picked up a knock last night. Can't see Bentley feature if Lennon is a risk for Tuesday night (anyone know?) and Defoe will be rested with the league game in mind. Can see Zokora play, as he'll be dropped for Palacios anyway.
    Harrys made it clear he likes Zokora so i doubt he'll drop him for Palacios,at least he ran his ass off last night even if it didn't come to much....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    tippspur wrote: »
    Harrys made it clear he likes Zokora so i doubt he'll drop him for Palacios,at least he ran his ass off last night even if it didn't come to much....

    I'd be surpised if he went with Zokora and Palacios in the centre together, can see Zokora being a utility player either as cover for Palacios, part of a middle three or filling in at full back. We can't afford to play 4-4-2 with the two of them in the middle unless he gets a decent option in for the left of midfield. I can see Modric and Palacios in the middle with O'Hara on the left and Lennon or Bentley on the right tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    From watching last night's match, there's ONE thing that I think would make a HUGE difference......

    When the backs are clearing the ball, they need to direct it towards a Spurs player; last night (and in the previous leg and in other matches) the "clearances" are going straight to the opposition and therefore keeping the pressure on.

    A combination of cooler heads while clearing, as well as a more intuitive and eager midfield would reap HUGE dividends......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭RichMc70


    I predict that Defoe, Pav, Zokora, Lennon, Woody, Dawson, Corluka and Gomes will be left out of the squad for this one.

    I fancy he'll start with something like this:-
    Alnwick
    Gunter.....Rocha.....BAK.....Bale
    Dos santos.....Bentley.....Hudd.....Jenas.....Taarabt
    Bent
    And we'll win 3-2 with a 93rd minute goal by Rocha :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭ruiseal


    Apparently the kids are off in Mexico for some tournament so little chance of the likes of Bostock or Parett making an appearance, so what's your team?

    Cesar/Alnwick (don't matter, both are toilet]
    Gunter
    Rocha
    Dawson
    Bale
    Taarabt
    Zokora
    O'Hara
    dos Santos
    Pav
    Campbell

    ?

    As he is on loan, would Fergie allow Campbell to play against manyoo?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭Hatch99


    Holy Fcuk.

    OHara is a massive loss if he's out for several weeks.

    Harry Redknapp has a host of injuries to contend with ahead of Saturday's FA Cup fourth round tie at Manchester United.

    The manager faces taking on the champions without up to 11 injured players - many of whom he's worried may not be fit to face Stoke in a key Premier League fixture at the Lane on Tuesday.

    On top of that, he's without Fraizer Campbell at Old Trafford as the loanee striker cannot play against his parent club.

    The players who are definitely out for Saturday are goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes (thigh), Vedran Corluka (groin), Ledley King (hamstring), Aaron Lennon (groin), Jermaine Jenas (calf), Darren Bent (groin), Jamie O'Hara (hip) and Alan Hutton (foot).

    Harry reported that Jonathan Woodgate (back) and Luka Modric (back, hamstring) were also unlikely to feature and that Michael Dawson had 'about four different injuries'.

    Neverthless, the manager said he would play the strongest team available.

    "We've got so many injuries it's very difficult to put out our strongest team," he said. "I will field the best available team.

    "I had players missing at Burnley but I didn't rest them - I wouldn't rest them for a semi-final that takes us to Wembley, they just weren't fit.

    "Aaron Lennon, Corluka, Ledley King, Gomes - they weren't fit for Burnley and won't be fit for Saturday. We've another list of injuries from Burnley as well.

    "Jamie O'Hara is going for a scan on a hip problem and could be out for several weeks

    "Luka Modric has a bit of a stiff back and he feels his hamstrings are getting a bit tight. He could be fit for tomorrow though and if he's fit, he'll play. Jonthan Woodgate is also struggling.


    "However, we're not taking a reserve team to Old Trafford and everyone who is fit, will play,"

    Harry also suggested that Giovani, Adel Taarabt and Ricardo Rocha will all be involved and Academy goalkeeper Mirko Ranieri was likely to be on the bench as cover for Ben Alnwick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    With 'arrys priorities and Fergies + defence crisis, this could be one facinating game for the rest of us. Luckily it doesn't really matter for either side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭ruiseal


    Tottenham’s on-loan striker Fraizer Campbell is ineligible to play against parent club Manchester United in the FA Cup at Old Trafford this week.

    Spurs also have a host of injury problems ahead of the fourth-round tie, with Heurelho Gomes (thigh), Vedran Corluka (thigh), Ledley King (hamstring), Jermaine Jenas (calf), Jamie O’Hara (hip), Aaron Lennon (groin) and Darren Bent (groin) set to miss out.

    Michael Dawson and Jonathan Woodgate are also doubtful with knocks, while Alan Hutton (foot) is a long-term absentee. Luka Modric (back/hamstring) will require a late test.

    Provisional squad: Alnwick, Ranieri, Gunter, Bale, Dawson, Dervite, Rocha, Zokora, Bentley, Huddlestone, Giovani, Gilberto, Modric, Taarabt, Assou-Ekotto, Pavlyuchenko, Defoe, Parrett, Bostock, Obika.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    Seems the info I was given last night re. Bostock and co was way off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭keane=cock


    tippspur wrote: »
    Harrys made it clear he likes Zokora so i doubt he'll drop him for Palacios,at least he ran his ass off last night even if it didn't come to much....

    as far as i know palacios is suspended for this. i may be wrong though. i think ive read it some where. rumours doing the rounds that harry is fielding a team who are playing for their future at spurs. poor performance results in the door been shown. again not sure how true this is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,058 ✭✭✭tippspur


    keane=cock wrote: »
    as far as i know palacios is suspended for this. i may be wrong though. i think ive read it some where. rumours doing the rounds that harry is fielding a team who are playing for their future at spurs. poor performance results in the door been shown. again not sure how true this is.
    As far as i know he is suspended for two games, so he will miss the Stoke city game on tues as well..it will be interesting to see how the Hudd will perform against Man U after his stroll the other night..:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭pickles_17


    campbell cant play for spurs cos hes on loan from utd! (isnt he?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭ruiseal


    tippspur wrote: »
    As far as i know he is suspended for two games, so he will miss the Stoke city game on tues as well.(

    Hopefully the Burnley game would count as one and Manure the other of his two suspensions. Free to play against Stoke? Hope so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,058 ✭✭✭tippspur


    ruiseal wrote: »
    Hopefully the Burnley game would count as one and Manure the other of his two suspensions. Free to play against Stoke? Hope so.
    He wasn't signed in time for Burnley game to count..anyway I think he was cup tied for that one..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭ruiseal


    Don't think "cup-tied" counts; when he signs, all he has to do is miss two matches. Hope he signed in time before the Burnley game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭cxcully


    If he's given a full 90 minutes, could this be the game where the mercurial Adel Taarabt makes his mark? Some lovely touches in the first half of ET against Burnley...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Woodgate


    cxcully wrote: »
    If he's given a full 90 minutes, could this be the game where the mercurial Adel Taarabt makes his mark? Some lovely touches in the first half of ET against Burnley...
    Agree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    Team:

    Alnwick, Gunter, Assou-Ekotto, Corluka, Dawson, Bentley, Huddlestone, Zokora, Bale, Modric, Pavlyuchenko.

    SUBS - Gomes, Gilberto, Giovani, Taarabt, Defoe, Rocha, Dervite.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭cxcully


    HT. Same bull**** from Spurs since the late 90s....sitting back asking one of the top 4 teams to attack us. Inferiority complex with pussies for players. I groaned after 2 minutes seeing 10 players behind the halfway line.

    Only hope is Defoe to come on to make a two man forward line.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭cxcully


    cxcully wrote: »
    If he's given a full 90 minutes, could this be the game where the mercurial Adel Taarabt makes his mark? Some lovely touches in the first half of ET against Burnley...

    eh no unfortunately.

    Really demoralising performace from many players. Actually looked badly coached with no real coherent shape. Perhaps Redknapp wanted to crash out of the cup to concentrate. We bent over and opened our arse cheeks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Jimbobak47


    Screw united back to hell :mad::mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭positivenote


    redknapp doest give a sh1te about the club or the fans anyway. We all know that he's at the club for the money and west ham is in his heart. He is the root cause for that performance today. He basically claimed he didn't want to win the game last Wednesday night, what kind of a manager would come out and say this. He's a self publicising idiot if you ask me and even if we stay up and win a cup i'd want him no where near OUR club after this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭RingoSpur


    redknapp doest give a sh1te about the club or the fans anyway. We all know that he's at the club for the money and west ham is in his heart. He is the root cause for that performance today. He basically claimed he didn't want to win the game last Wednesday night, what kind of a manager would come out and say this. He's a self publicising idiot if you ask me and even if we stay up and win a cup i'd want him no where near OUR club after this season.

    Calm down there. Things ain't going well at the minute but we'll start picking up results again. Maybe look at the players who couldn't care less and there were plenty of them out on the pitch tonight. Redknapp isn't the problem here in my opinion we are carrying too many passengers and a lot of players need a serious kick up the arse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭Dublin Spur


    redknapp doest give a sh1te about the club or the fans anyway. We all know that he's at the club for the money and west ham is in his heart. He is the root cause for that performance today. He basically claimed he didn't want to win the game last Wednesday night, what kind of a manager would come out and say this. He's a self publicising idiot if you ask me and even if we stay up and win a cup i'd want him no where near OUR club after this season.


    Sorry pal, but that's total bollox.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭positivenote


    dublin, okay so harry is at the club because he has a love for the club, and the fans etc... obviously he is there for his final big pay day... wasn't it 5m we paid Pompey for his services? he came out on wens after the game and said he was going to send a right old 'mish-mash' of a team to old trafford and he was 'sorry to the fans'... ask me bollarks. he doesn't give a sh1te about them. He started with a fairly strong team in the end, but if it wasn't for FA regulations he would have sooner got the tie over with. What kind of a message does this send to the players going out to play for the club against man utd yesterday? We lost that game before it even kicked off thanks to his comments on wens day, its disgraceful, and whats worse is that thanks to him and his medie buddies he'll always deflect the blame away from himself and, these days, on to the players. Publically 'slagging' them off as well... its neither here nor there whether Bent is ****e and did miss a sitter, do it behind closed doors.
    So my question is that which part of my previous post do you regard as 'absolute bollocks'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭Dublin Spur


    dublin, okay so harry is at the club because he has a love for the club, and the fans etc... obviously he is there for his final big pay day... wasn't it 5m we paid Pompey for his services? he came out on wens after the game and said he was going to send a right old 'mish-mash' of a team to old trafford and he was 'sorry to the fans'... ask me bollarks. he doesn't give a sh1te about them. He started with a fairly strong team in the end, but if it wasn't for FA regulations he would have sooner got the tie over with. What kind of a message does this send to the players going out to play for the club against man utd yesterday? We lost that game before it even kicked off thanks to his comments on wens day, its disgraceful, and whats worse is that thanks to him and his medie buddies he'll always deflect the blame away from himself and, these days, on to the players. Publically 'slagging' them off as well... its neither here nor there whether Bent is ****e and did miss a sitter, do it behind closed doors.
    So my question is that which part of my previous post do you regard as 'absolute bollocks'?

    All of it.

    Harry is trying to put right a club in total disarray after years of mismanagement from top to bottom and a squad riddled with passengers and cowards.

    Why shouldn't he publicly slag off a player ?? Obviously a quiet bollocking isn't working. Bar Defoe and Palacious none of the players are Harry's and he knows that most have little or no future at the club. That's great news to me.

    As for the Utd game, after Burnley he said he was gonna play a weak side because of the Stoke game, he also aploogised to the fans for this. I have no problem with this and totally understand. Also he did'nt have to say anything at all, but it was nice to hear our manager talking openly about our players and our priorities as a club, after years of confusion under Jol/Commolli/Ramos.

    You think he's only at Spurs for the money only and that he has no ambition to turn around our failings.
    Well that's entirely up to you but I think he has a lot more integrity than that. Time will tell if I am right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,058 ✭✭✭tippspur


    I have to say I agree with Dublin spur on this one,Harry is trying to sort out a big mess of players some who obviosly dont give a ****. and plese dont talk about changing the manager again, we would be more of a laughing stock than we all ready are.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭positivenote


    years of mismanagement that under jol, and for a short while arnesen, that got to a bogey dinner of the CL ? On the pitch for two of the last 3 seasons we had been pushing towards the top 4, although we may not have got there we were going in the right direction. Eitherway, the issue of mismangement was down to Levy and his appointment of comolli after arnesen left. if he was to scrap the idea of the DoF he should have done it when a manager of Martin Oneills calibre was available but wouldnt come to us because of the structure.... but instaed at this stage we have the wonderful harry redknap, who's CV consists of the big clubs such as southampton, pompey, west ham... the man has already brought one team down out of that lot. Despite all his years in football he has won 1 trophy. it just shows how far we have fallen when we pin our hopes of survival on such a man.
    He has never accepted blame for anything, if the players aint motivated to try against man utd, well thats his fault im afraid, its his job to motivate them to want to play for the pride of the club if not themselves.
    Of course he is at the club for the money, he even said if we go down he's off... some loyalty that.
    Either way, i dreaded the day we were linked with him as i always thought he was an idiot who'd scrap a result or two a season that would keep fans of clubs happy to be staying up content, but now he's at the helm of our club lets not try and pretend he is something he is not.
    I will always cheer and suport the club and i pray we stay up, but while he is here we will be nothing more than a mid table club.
    COYS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭Dublin Spur


    years of mismanagement that under jol, and for a short while arnesen, that got to a bogey dinner of the CL ? On the pitch for two of the last 3 seasons we had been pushing towards the top 4, although we may not have got there we were going in the right direction. Eitherway, the issue of mismangement was down to Levy and his appointment of comolli after arnesen left. if he was to scrap the idea of the DoF he should have done it when a manager of Martin Oneills calibre was available but wouldnt come to us because of the structure.... but instaed at this stage we have the wonderful harry redknap, who's CV consists of the big clubs such as southampton, pompey, west ham... the man has already brought one team down out of that lot. Despite all his years in football he has won 1 trophy. it just shows how far we have fallen when we pin our hopes of survival on such a man.
    He has never accepted blame for anything, if the players aint motivated to try against man utd, well thats his fault im afraid, its his job to motivate them to want to play for the pride of the club if not themselves.
    Of course he is at the club for the money, he even said if we go down he's off... some loyalty that.
    Either way, i dreaded the day we were linked with him as i always thought he was an idiot who'd scrap a result or two a season that would keep fans of clubs happy to be staying up content, but now he's at the helm of our club lets not try and pretend he is something he is not.
    I will always cheer and suport the club and i pray we stay up, but while he is here we will be nothing more than a mid table club.
    COYS


    You obviously hate him, which is a shame.
    Time will tell if your opinion is accurate.

    Also, You might need to think about changing your user name :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    Why shouldn't he publicly slag off a player ?? Obviously a quiet bollocking isn't working. Bar Defoe and Palacious none of the players are Harry's and he knows that most have little or no future at the club. That's great news to me.

    Shouldn't wash his dirty linen in public Shane, it might pacify the fans but it hurts the club in the long run. Redknapp is supposed to be a great motivator, do you think Bent will be inclined to bust a gut for a man who's just slated him on national TV? This is the same Bent who sat as 4th choice all last year without complaint, and still managed to score goals when he got his chance.

    I don't think Bent's attitude was the worst in that squad, but it's hard to see a way back now.

    Redknapp needs to do his talking on the training ground, not for the Sky cameras.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭Hatch99


    Shouldn't wash his dirty linen in public Shane, it might pacify the fans but it hurts the club in the long run. Redknapp is supposed to be a great motivator, do you think Bent will be inclined to bust a gut for a man who's just slated him on national TV? This is the same Bent who sat as 4th choice all last year without complaint, and still managed to score goals when he got his chance.

    I don't think Bent's attitude was the worst in that squad, but it's hard to see a way back now.

    Redknapp needs to do his talking on the training ground, not for the Sky cameras.

    Bang On. He is making a mockery of the club in my opinion that way he has publicily spoke about the players, and also the way he is dealing regarding transfers. He does way too much talking in front of the cameras. All of this talking should be done in private surely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Antisocialiser


    Will bent miss a chance that easy if he gets another one soon?
    I dont think so... Bent will make sure next time the ball is played to him in the box he is focused and the critical chance is taken to the best of his ability. Either that or he'll huff.

    Harry was frustrated, he is being criticized for saying what he thinks about players who are probably used to being pussyfooted around. I think these players wages reflect what is being expected of them on the pitch, Harry is simply asking them to be men and stand up and they arent doing it.

    Maybe not the most tactful but I respect his right to criticize, in private or in public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    Will bent miss a chance that easy if he gets another one soon?
    I dont think so... Bent will make sure next time the ball is played to him in the box he is focused and the critical chance is taken to the best of his ability. Either that or he'll huff.

    Alternatively, a player who's had a torrid 18 months at the club and who might have needed an arm around the shoulder and a bit of encouragement is now even lower in confidence, and more likely to fluff his lines next opportunity he gets (if at all). I can't get over how much people ignore the very basics of human nature at times like these, some people react to pressure in different ways. Some need a kick up the arse, some need gentle encouragement. Cnuting an under performing striker (who is still carrying a knock) on live TV is not good management.

    Maybe the problem is our inexperienced striking coach Les Ferdinand? Our forwards have hardly been pulling up trees since his arrival, yet the arrival of Tony Parks has done wonders for Gomes which goes to show what a good coach can achieve in a short space of time.

    What makes it all the more frustrating is Redknapp arrived at the club making all sorts of comments about team spirit and morale, and players who'd been frozen out, then tells us as fans we should give Ghaly a 2nd chance...where's his 2nd chance for Bent?

    It is counter productive to criticise your own players in public, Redknapp likes the sound of his own voice too much and needs to keep it in house.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭Dublin Spur


    I like Harry and his no nonsence appraoch - we've had too many soft managers over the years and putting you arm around some of our overpaid cowards is a waste of time.

    He's trying to tackle a long running malase at Spurs. It's a very difficult job. I imagine he's already given the private bollockings with no effect, after that going public is a good alternative option. These players have been getting away with murder for years. It's about time they were shamed. they're a fcuking disgrase and most of them should never have been allowed anywhere near the club.

    Having a go at them in public is refreshing, what he has said is 100% correct. I imagine he's hoping they'll be shamed into action. Dirty linnen in public - couldn't care less - everyone kowns we're a shambles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Antisocialiser


    nail on the head dublin spur.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    Some shocking stuff on here, you slate your own players in public like that and you rapidly lose the dressing room.

    If Harry wants rid of Bent and others then let him show them the door, instead of sniping at them in public when they are still Tottenham players. I've no problem with them being fcuked out if they're not up to the task, but Redknapp is flipping and flopping all over the shop, calling for team spirit and unity then doing his best to undermine all that.

    I really hope this job isn't too much for him...:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭positivenote


    the thing that gets me is that obviously some of the players have shocking attitudes, but they are in the minority. Gomes, corluka, woodgate/dawson/king, gunter, zakora, o'hara, modric, pav, lennon.... all of these have been giving a sterling effort this season, performances may have been lacking but none of them piss or moan or have an attitude. From that lot i expected lennon to be all ganstar and attitudey, but hes been one our most consistent performers. I think that redknapp has the media eating out of his hand, and he has always deflected the blame away from him. It is partly his fault and to 'wash your laundry' and individualise blame to players in public is disgraceful. None of the successful managers have ever done this. I remember Fergie after winning a cup with aberdeen was interviewed on the pitch after the game and he lambasted the performance of the team on the TV, the thing was that he never mentioned one player... it was the team that under performed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭Dublin Spur


    Views are getting a bit polarised on Harry. It looks like you're either your pro or anti Harry. There doesn't seem to be a lot of middle ground. I'm obviously pro Harry for the reasons I've already given.

    He's gonna rid us of the lazy passangers that have been dragging us down for so long.
    If he lays into one or two along the way (on private or public), great. I would hate to see those pr1cks getting an easy ride out of the club.

    He also talks openly about the inner workings of the club and I think that's fantastic. No more cloak and dagger stuff. More information in better then less (IMO). For years we've been scratching our heads wondering what the hell's happening inside WHL. Now we're getting more insight than ever and some are making this out to be a bad thing. I don't agree. I take on board the alternative views but I honestly don't agree with them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    Couple of things Shane...

    I don't think Bent is a prick, or a coward. He's a limited player, capable of doing a job in the league with the right kid of service, and when others couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo he was scoring under Ramos at the start of the season. I don't see any point in hating a player because he's not proved up to the task put to him, I've not seen anything from him to suggest he's not trying TBH. I also think his comments last week about the kid GK he was considering having on the bench against ManYoo (Mirko Ranieri) were incredibly disrespectful (can't remember the exact phrasing, but along the lines of "I've a kid on the bench on Saturday called Ranieri, I don't know who he is, is it Claudio?"). That is piss poor behaviour from any manager.

    I'm all for a bit of honesty from the top of the club, but is that what we're getting? Just because Redknapp is quicker to talk than his predecessors doesn't mean it's all in our interests. He needs to shut up about players at other clubs for starters, already West Ham have said they wouldn't do business with us for Bellamy and I've heard rumblings along the same lines from Boro over Downing. Whatever you think of those two players, do we really want half the league pissed off at us, adding a few 100k on to every transfer fee just because it's us? It looks like Harry is using his friends in the media to pressure Levy into spending money this window (which is a good thing) but a lot of it looks like he's preparing the ground for excuses in case he doesn't get us out of the sh1t by the end of the season.

    I know we've been starved of info in the past, but the novelty will wear off some time in the future and people will want to hear the truth from 'Arry, not just his version of the truth. And I say that with the greatest hope that he can drag us to safety this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,317 ✭✭✭Dublin Spur


    Couple of things Shane...

    I don't think Bent is a prick, or a coward. He's a limited player, capable of doing a job in the league with the right kid of service, and when others couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo he was scoring under Ramos at the start of the season. I don't see any point in hating a player because he's not proved up to the task put to him, I've not seen anything from him to suggest he's not trying TBH. I also think his comments last week about the kid GK he was considering having on the bench against ManYoo (Mirko Ranieri) were incredibly disrespectful (can't remember the exact phrasing, but along the lines of "I've a kid on the bench on Saturday called Ranieri, I don't know who he is, is it Claudio?"). That is piss poor behaviour from any manager.

    I'm all for a bit of honesty from the top of the club, but is that what we're getting? Just because Redknapp is quicker to talk than his predecessors doesn't mean it's all in our interests. He needs to shut up about players at other clubs for starters, already West Ham have said they wouldn't do business with us for Bellamy and I've heard rumblings along the same lines from Boro over Downing. Whatever you think of those two players, do we really want half the league pissed off at us, adding a few 100k on to every transfer fee just because it's us? It looks like Harry is using his friends in the media to pressure Levy into spending money this window (which is a good thing) but a lot of it looks like he's preparing the ground for excuses in case he doesn't get us out of the sh1t by the end of the season.

    I know we've been starved of info in the past, but the novelty will wear off some time in the future and people will want to hear the truth from 'Arry, not just his version of the truth. And I say that with the greatest hope that he can drag us to safety this year.



    Bent has been like timid little lamb since he came to Spurs. He has never imposed himself on a game like he did regularly at Charlton. His lack of self motivation and confidence is shocking. For a 6ft+ proven premier league center forward, this kind of carry on is totally unacceptable and I totally agree with Harry's stance, even if it means we get less money for him when he's finally offloaded. Sometimes the truth hurts, but it's better to hear the truth insead of nothing (or even worse - lies), which we have been fed for years.

    Also, I can't see Harry being the reason West Ham wouldn't sell the us. Their chairman said that they wouldn't sell to us as we are their biggest rival and that it would be "a smack in the face for West Ham fans". Fair play to him actually, I like his stance and he showed a bit of bottle and charicter.

    Supporters need to get behind Harry Redknapp, he's trying to turn a desprate situation arond. It's an extremely difficult job and he needs our support. If he fails, I'll be the first to admit I was wrong. But there's nobody better qualified to deal with our situation than Harry.

    I've nothing more to add on this, as I think I'm starting to get a little repetitive, I'm sure someone else will want to have the final word :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭positivenote


    word :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 179 ✭✭opeldave


    word :)

    Word +1


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