anyone starting to feel irish TV is insulting to human intelligence?

stateofflux

i dunno maybe its the reality tv buzz...but i think rte has gotten even worse in the last 6 months...what morons are thinking up such programs as "5 women go back to work", and more and more cooking or restaraunt / holiday shows....yawn.....

does anyone else cringe at "talent" shows such as your a star or ireland got "talent"?

i switched from the joan rivers show to tubridy and the contrast was staggering....genius with joan then prime time evening cardboard with z list upper middle class gob****e tubridy and his "who gives a ****" guests....this can also apply to the late late ...what a joke!...

i think the only show ill watch that has a bit of quality to it is prime time or questions and answers and the odd biopic on interesting irish people....

sometimes i wonder what im paying my tv licence for.....:rolleyes:

and dont get me started on tv3....i think its run by women these days ...hence all the chick flicks, only action films for the boys(i guess thats all they think males will watch)...and idiotic glamour gossip stuff like xpose with that ugly annoying presenter lorraine keane.....(at least on aa roadwatch you could imagine she was good looking lol)

anyone else feel like this about irish television? or are you slouched and drooling in front of the tv?

Mr E

Change channel?

lou91

stateofflux wrote: »

and dont get me started on tv3....i think its run by women these days ...

:rolleyes:

godtabh

Mr E wrote: »

Change channel?

What will there to be moan about then?

SoupyNorman

Last 6months, try last 7-8 years. Mind numbing colourful shows such as LOST, CSI, Friends, The Simpsons is an unrecognisable show nowadays...sheesh.


I just watch Curb, Arrested Dev and The Sopranos to feel sane these days.

mike65

stateofflux wrote: »

5 women go back to work"

Whats that about?

Liam Byrne

There's some valid points there, but TBH most of the satellite stations are worse!

They do have some decent shows, but most of them are repeats that we've seen dozens of times (often 3 times THAT DAY ALONE), and for the most part anything new is mind-numbing, unfunny, and pointless.....

I've often felt the way you do about ALL tv channels, flicking aimlessly though the Sky lineup in a futile attempt to find something decent that isn't a repeat.

Why do you think it's only Irish TV that's dire ? I'm not arguing, because a lot of it is, but most satellite stations are as bad if not worse.

Can you list 10 decent shows that are on other stations ?

topper75

Great post OP. Fully endorse your sentiments.

Brien

At least we have one or two quality shows, such as "The Panel".

todolist

Mr E wrote: »

Change channel?

Maybe he's a license fee payer so he's entitled to moan.I hate that change channel argument.

Aidric

stateofflux wrote: »

i switched from the joan rivers show to tubridy and the contrast was staggering....genius with joan

There's nothing genius about that plastic hag.

LordSutch

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Why do you think it's only Irish TV that's dire ? I'm not arguing, because a lot of it is, but most satellite stations are as bad if not worse.

Can you list 10 decent shows that are on other stations ?

.1/ Top gear
.2/ Qi
.3/ Holby City
.4/ Have I got News 4u
.5/ Doctor Who
.6/ OZ & James drink to Britain.
.7/ Waterloo Road
.8/ Question of Sport
.9/ Newsnight
10/ Jools Holland

RobertFoster

kearnsr wrote: »

What will there to be moan about then?

Have you seen the price of cocaine chocolate digestives these days? Christ, do they not realise we're in a recession, loike?

mike65

Yeah but they're all BBC! What about stuff from the "higher numbers"

hang on - Antiques roadshow? :eek:

Six of One

stateofflux wrote: »

and dont get me started on tv3....i think its run by women these days

:eek::eek::eek: They wouldn't allow that would they? :rolleyes:

Got to agree on the rest though. Recorded Project Haha and have it on now... crap. Pity, I'd heard it was funny. Thank God for Sky+ at least if you stuble upon something decent you can series link it and stockpile things to watch for nights like these! The alternative being the Lucy Kennedy show, Colm and JimJim or other such muppets . Having said all that- credit where it's due- Lost is back on RTE2 on Sunday!!:D

JanusGeminius

mike65 wrote: »

Yeah but they're all BBC! What about stuff from the "higher numbers"

hang on - Antiques roadshow? :eek:

The Difference is the "Higher numbers" have a budget of €5.50 so it's easy for them to be crap, but RTÉ have a budget near to €500 Million last year so you'd think they might be able to do something half decent? I Know Drama is out of the question by why can't they get comedy right? It's not expensive and all you need is a good comedian or a good script.

humanji

mike65 wrote: »

Yeah but they're all BBC! What about stuff from the "higher numbers"

hang on - Antiques roadshow? :eek:

Aren't the higher numbers just porn channels?

LordSutch

Higher numbers?

ScumLord

JanusGeminius wrote: »

The Difference is the "Higher numbers" have a budget of €5.50 so it's easy for them to be crap, but RTÉ have a budget near to €500 Million last year so you'd think they might be able to do something half decent? I Know Drama is out of the question by why can't they get comedy right? It's not expensive and all you need is a good comedian or a good script.

Nothing is out of the question, there are some great shows out there made on shoe strings. This is RTEs problem (well it's an Irish problem in general) they think money solves all problems.

elshambo

JanusGeminius wrote: »

I Know Drama is out of the question by why can't they get comedy right? It's not expensive and all you need is a good comedian or a good script.

Little bit more to it than that!

120_Minutes

I dont watch rte, nothing on it interests me, and if anything ever does, i've usually seen it already on another station.

its like that ad for that on demand thingy;

"how much do you pay to not watch rte?"


errr...160 a year and part of my sky sub.

makes you think doesnt it?


(and dont reply with the stock radio answer, there are no radios in my house, and i only listen to today fm in my car.)

Liam Byrne

120_Minutes wrote: »

I dont watch rte, nothing on it interests me, and if anything ever does, i've usually seen it already on another station.

Funny - I usually find it's the other way around.

120_Minutes

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Funny - I usually find it's the other way around.

example?

Degsy

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Can you list 10 decent shows that are on other stations ?

1)Ross Kemp on Gangs
2)Most dangerous Cities
3)Survivorman
4)Dragons' Den
5)Dispatches
6)Underworld
7)Surviving History
8)Mythbusters
9)Lost Cities of the Underground
10)Top Gear

MisterAnarchy

Liam Byrne wrote: »

There's some valid points there, but TBH most of the satellite stations are worse!

They do have some decent shows, but most of them are repeats that we've seen dozens of times (often 3 times THAT DAY ALONE), and for the most part anything new is mind-numbing, unfunny, and pointless.....

I've often felt the way you do about ALL tv channels, flicking aimlessly though the Sky lineup in a futile attempt to find something decent that isn't a repeat.

Why do you think it's only Irish TV that's dire ? I'm not arguing, because a lot of it is, but most satellite stations are as bad if not worse.

Can you list 10 decent shows that are on other stations ?

I agree 100%,couldnt put it better myself.
I blame Big Brother for starting off this whole reality tv craze that has ruined tv .

Raiser

Mr E wrote: »

Change channel?

Yeah - well and good - but anyone in possession of equipment capable of receiving TV has to pay the Pat Kenny [Gorse Hill Sheep Farmer] tax...... So we are entitled to voice discontent when all that we are offered in return is crap........

mike65

Didn't Driving School start the whole "reality" crap?

DenMan

I'm suffering brain melt right now with all that's on Irish TV at the moment. The only problem is I'm involved in the industry.

Stark

Liam Byrne wrote: »

There's some valid points there, but TBH most of the satellite stations are worse!

But at least you don't have to pay for them if you don't want them.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Brien wrote: »

At least we have one or two quality shows, such as "The Panel".

:eek: Someone who likes the Panel - that show has gone to sh!t. Used to be good. Nothing good on RTÉ that you can't watch elsewhere. They've really only got Lost at the moment, as I imagine they've ditched 24, cause they're muppets.
TG4 is quality. Usually always has something good on. Even the cartoons are classic - anyone remember when they used to do Spongebob and Samurai Jack back to back for about 2 hours. Thems were the days.

Pigman II

mike65 wrote: »

Didn't Driving School start the whole "reality" crap?

Personally I'd blame the 7-ups.

Stark

There's also the issue of them buying up all the quality US imports to spite TV3 and then showing them at ungodly hours in the morning.

r3nu4l

Well last year RTÉ showed Operation Transformation and that was a brilliant show, well put together with good nutrition and fitness advice, they also invested in an excellent website for the show that was really, really useful. I was shocked!

Thankfully, this year Operation Transformation has returned to our screens. Well your screens in Ireland, not mine in the UK :mad:

Last year I could watch the show online, not this year, fcukers!! :mad:

SoupyNorman

r3nu4l wrote: »

Well last year RTÉ showed Operation Transformation and that was a brilliant show, well put together with good nutrition and fitness advice, they also invested in an excellent website for the show that was really, really useful. I was shocked!

Thankfully, this year Operation Transformation has returned to our screens. Well your screens in Ireland, not mine in the UK :mad:

Last year I could watch the show online, not this year, fcukers!! :mad:

Its a good format OK, but they go and get Gerry 'The Vagina' Ryan to present it and I dont want to suffer him for that.

Elmo

Stark wrote: »

There's also the issue of them buying up all the quality US imports to spite TV3 and then showing them at ungodly hours in the morning.

This does not happen as discussed before. TV3 don't go after the same shows as RTE. They have a cosy relationship with both ITV and Fireworks. However this does seem to be changing. This is not due to RTE but due to TV3 realising that most of the muck from america comes from Fireworks.

Is it insulting to human intelligence. All TV is possibly insulting to human intelligence, doesn't stop us watching.

I think RTE have made a load of bad decision in the last number of years. With particular regard for Entertainment/Drama/Comedy.

Time to employ additional writers and script editors. For the people in charge to cooperate for programming. There is no reason why the Entertainment commissioner couldn't commission a Drama or for the Drama commissioner to commission a factual docu-drama.

Can we just sticky this? RTE is Bad, TV3 worse and TG4 a shinning light (its a pity we cann't speak the language).

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Elmo wrote: »

TG4 a shinning light (its a pity we cann't speak the language).

More and more opportunities to learn it... not as hard as people think - provided you don't try to learn it through the National school system.
Des Bishop managed to do it - was talking to him a few months ago and he was well able to hold a conversation with us - who have been fluent are whole lives. You'd be surprised at how much you'd pick up if you headed down to the Gaeltacht - even for just a week here and there when you get the chance. You'd pick so much Gaeilge up just sitting around the pub even. At least TG4 have subtitles so as not to exclude people - Ros na Run has a steady fanbase in the States and in Scotland, while Seacht has a primetime slot on BBC2's Tuesday schedule, so it just goes to show, that the shows are transferrable and anyone can watch.

r3nu4l

bravestarr082 wrote: »

Its a good format OK, but they go and get Gerry 'The Vagina' Ryan to present it and I dont want to suffer him for that.

I knew someone would bring that up
Well every silver lining has it's cloud I really dislike Gerry Ryan on the radio, can't stand his style of presentation or mouthing off but in fairness, his role in the show is minimal enough apart from carefully scripted narrative so he can't get away with too much. It would have been nice to get a different presenter but Gerry, in fairness to him, doesn't do an awful job on the TV show.

LordSutch

Dunno about RTE, but apparently TG4 is actually Irelands favourite TV Station!

Elmo

Camelot wrote: »

Dunno about RTE, but apparently TG4 is actually Irelands favourite TV Station!

The problem with both of our polls was that you (I blame you entirely, I am being sarcastic) forgot TG4. Had you put TG4 in your poll you would have possibly got one or two voting for the channel and a few people responding with what they thought of the channel.

You have to remember that Irish people have a difficult with the channel due to the language, and its not that they can't speak it but it is because they are anti-language. We come from an English speaking part of the world and rarely do we watch TV in any other language then English. And your assumption about the channel not having viewers is a classic case of this, it may not have been on purpose but it was in the back of your mind.

LordSutch

Actually Elmo, there was nothing at the back of my mind re TG4, apart from the fact that it didnt register on my TV Radar at all, and I genuinely mean that Elmo.

I was thinking about the most Popular TV Stations for Drama/ Current Affairs/ Documantaries/ Comedy, and I compiled the Poll list ..................

Nothing wrong with TG4 at all, and indeed its going very well indeed for a Station on a shoestring > I love some of their films & documentaries too, but I would never think of it as my favourite all round TV Station.

Good Luck with your Poll.

mike65

Pigman II wrote: »

Personally I'd blame the 7-ups.

Well if we are mining tv history then Paul Watson’s Family must be held accountable as twas the very first of its kind I think.

girlbiker

Did anyone SEE the monstrosity that was…Nightlive something like that? It was a supposed skit show parodying the news? It was utter shte!! I mean painful!!!! So awful, they had on a puppet who pulled out his puppet willy and was talking dirty to the “presenter” made me want to cringe in shame at the state of our nations attempt at being funny!!

girlbiker

Opps ^ looks like I'm shouting....actually....take it as I am shouting, oh yes Outraged!

Degsy

r3nu4l wrote: »

I knew someone would bring that up
Well every silver lining has it's cloud I really dislike Gerry Ryan on the radio, can't stand his style of presentation or mouthing off but in fairness, his role in the show is minimal enough apart from carefully scripted narrative so he can't get away with too much. It would have been nice to get a different presenter but Gerry, in fairness to him, doesn't do an awful job on the TV show.

No,there's no silver lining.The man is a disgrace,am affront to human dignity and an inflated,baggy-throated pillock.

RTE have been trying for years to sneak him onto our screens,in one guise or another the viewers always reacted with justifiable horror "The man doesnt have the face for television..he makes me feel sick".."He's too fat to be on telly..i feel sick"...and they remove him for a while and bide thier time.

But think about this..in the last twelve months he has been on our screens an unprecedented number of times,Operation Transformation,Ryan confidential and,most horribly the Late Late Show.
He has also released a book,the cover of which has been heavily doctored to disguise his droopy face.

They've given him a new look..a pair of glasses to distract from his bulging,mullet-like eyes and a cheap Aldi suit to disguise his bulging,baggy,toad-like throat.

This is just the beginning..if we dont take steps immediatly,the wasters of our money in RTE will have him reading the news next....imagine it if you will...

Nolanger

A few years back some old guy on British television claimed that due to more women finding work in the media television has been dumbed down too much now.
I agree.

stateofflux

RandomUserName! wrote: »

:rolleyes:

its true...name a good film that was on tv3 recently that was'nt from the loaded lads mag perception of what women high up in the media think ALL the lads' would enjoy....i love die hard, dont get me wrong but not every ****ing night!:eek:...

i think the old british guy was patrick moore....but i could be wrong

i changed my opinion of tg4 since i turned it on one day and discovered 'the wire'....i should learn a bit of irish as a mark of respect

firesidechat

killnascully is a joke ,if thats the best home produced comedy rte can produce we are in trouble.it is an insult to our intelligence even the yanks wont watch it and that says a lot.

Capt'n Midnight

humanji wrote: »

Aren't the higher numbers just porn channels?

nearly had 7up sprayed over the keyboard there

miaowchi

hmmm come to think of it i only watch about 3 programmes on the irish channels.... The Panel, Criminal Minds and Questions and Answers...

hail the dodgy box endless movies, sport, discovery channels... oh and not forgetting Q the music channel.... who needs the bog channels...

LordSutch

miaowchi wrote: »

hmmm come to think of it i only watch about 3 programmes on the irish channels.... The Panel, Criminal Minds and Questions and Answers...

So have you voted in the Terrestrial TV poll ? (see Thread).