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Ever informed on a shoplifter?

  • 20-01-2009 11:02am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭Sesudra


    Just curious-if you saw a shoplifter in the act,as it were,would you tell someone?or leave it be?

    I used to work in a shop,so shoplifting really gets me so if I ever see it going on,I try and bring the shops attention to it.Good karma?or goody two shoes?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    Fair ****s to ya more people should help catch the bastards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Small local shop yes, big chain store, no. I might if I needed a distraction while I stole something myself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    I seen 6 or 7 lads enter the spar up in tallaght. 6 of them distracted the shop keeper while the last junkie went over to the meat area and cleared all the rashers etc into a bag, he also stole alot of cans.

    The 6 blokes left the store and the guy who had shoplifted asked if they sold petrol or sumtin similar to make it look like he was looking for something then he left.

    I told the 2 till lads straight off and had no problem doing so. I knew them very well as i only lived a few yards from the shop and would regulary buy cans from there, hell one of them even gave me 5 cigerettes because it was past closing time by the time i went down one night. Top Geezers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    When i was doing Security is a person came up and told me another person in the store had been shoplifting a few things would happen.

    Both people would have a very close watch kept on them simply because it not unheard of for shop lifters to try the old distract technique.

    It also doesn't really matter what they may have pocketed them, if i didn't see them do it myself i wouldn't pull them over it, simply because the risk of false arrest and the relevant claim is too high.

    By the time i left the job, one of the main things to be careful of was people setting themselves up for a nice little claim that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,991 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    Seen a guy squeeze a jumbo pack of pampers into a sports bag in Tescos, Athlone. Then stroll straight out (the nappies were quite visible jutting out of the bag). Personally I thought it was hilarious.




  • It isn't shoplifting until they leave the store. Loads of people in Aldi and Lidl put groceries into their own plastic bags, for example, with no intention of stealing anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    If I knew the shop-owner, maybe I would, but I'd never rat on a shop-lifter out of civic duty, especially in a big store.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,066 ✭✭✭✭omb0wyn5ehpij9


    I told the shop assistant in a petrol station that 2 lads had just walked in and picked up a load of drinks and walked back out. I saw it as i was going in to pay for my petrol. When i got to the till, i told the shop assistant and his reply was "yeah i know, but what can i do about it?" as he looked out the window and the 2 lads smiled at him as tehy walked by :confused:!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Bryn wrote: »
    I told the shop assistant in a petrol station that 2 lads had just walked in and picked up a load of drinks and walked back out. I saw it as i was going in to pay for my petrol. When i got to the till, i told the shop assistant and his reply was "yeah i know, but what can i do about it?" as he looked out the window and the 2 lads smiled at him as tehy walked by :confused:!

    Minimum wage employee get a hiding (or worse) over a tray of drinks because the owner is too scabby to hire security? I think not.

    I got held up with a pistol when working in a service station during college. It happened mid-shift, and when the cops had gone, the owner told me to finish the shift. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭PrivateEye


    and when the cops had gone, the owner told me to finish the shift.

    I'd well believe that, being that college worker now!


    As for shoplifting....depends on the circumstances, if its the local family business then I would be fairly quick in the act on informing, but if somebody is doing a quick one on Tommy Hilfigger? Enjoy your very dull (but also very free) jacket mate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    stovelid wrote: »
    Minimum wage employee get a hiding (or worse) over a tray of drinks because the owner is too scabby to hire security? I think not.

    I got held up with a pistol when working in a service station during college. It happened mid-shift, and when the cops had gone, the owner told me to finish the shift. :)


    I reflect this sentiment, worked in Xtra-Vision for a couple of years. Mid-week you'd be alone from 6-12, serial lifters would come in...If there were no customers I could just stand and watch the fridge (the main target) but should the place be busy then it was a free for all, I never stressed out..on minimum wage and no security/second employee. Got held up at Knifepoint also on one of those shifts .....I got a couple of days off though :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭sunnyjim


    stovelid wrote:
    I got held up with a pistol when working in a service station during college. It happened mid-shift, and when the cops had gone, the owner told me to finish the shift.

    You didn't happen to be working for Mr R Griffen by chance?

    I worked in a shop for 6 months. Whenever we were lifted, we would left a guy working the till and then the boss or manager would take all the remaining guys into the car for a nice big chase :D

    We know that security guards and shop workers can get done for allegations of shoplifting and false arrest. What happens if a random shop punter does it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    sunnyjim wrote: »
    You didn't happen to be working for Mr R Griffen by chance?

    Nah.

    Best not out an ex-employer in a recession. Might need him again. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    stovelid wrote: »
    Minimum wage employee get a hiding (or worse) over a tray of drinks because the owner is too scabby to hire security? I think not.

    I got held up with a pistol when working in a service station during college. It happened mid-shift, and when the cops had gone, the owner told me to finish the shift. :)


    *shakes head in disgust*

    Way to show employees they are valued eh?


  • Posts: 5,869 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    *shakes head in disgust*

    Way to show employees they are valued eh?

    I know a bloke who worked in Tesco, drumcondra and got held up with a shotgun. Your man asked for the keys to cash office and the manager just hesitated. They grabbed the fellow i know, and put the shotgun to his head and again asked for the keys. The manager hesitated again before handing them over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    One of my friends (not really friends with her anymore) actually madea habit of shop-lifting. She's always steal pointless stuff like magazines and make-up and stuff. She never did it if I was there though, except one time she tried when we were in Easons. She put a magazine into her handbag. I told her I refused to leave until she put it back...and she did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    I know a bloke who worked in Tesco, drumcondra and got held up with a shotgun. Your man asked for the keys to cash office and the manager just hesitated. They grabbed the fellow i know, and put the shotgun to his head and again asked for the keys. The manager hesitated again before handing them over.

    That is just stupid on the manager's part. I mean what was he thinking? Was he trying to call the bluff of a guy with a shotgun directed at one of his staff's head? Idiot.

    I can't imagine what that bloke could have been thinking. When I was working in a bookies I was held at knife-point and gun-point (don't ask, end of the night and we had the door that separates us and the punters open), it can mess you up. My colleague didn't come back for weeks (I worked the next day:pac:). But if my manager hesitated with my life in the balance, I would have sued them big time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭Shiny


    Bryn wrote: »
    I told the shop assistant in a petrol station that 2 lads had just walked in and picked up a load of drinks and walked back out. I saw it as i was going in to pay for my petrol. When i got to the till, i told the shop assistant and his reply was "yeah i know, but what can i do about it?" as he looked out the window and the 2 lads smiled at him as tehy walked by :confused:!

    haha!! Where was this.
    I used to work in a Texaco and this happened to me loads of times!

    There is nothing you can do, you call the guards and show them the
    video they will say "Is that all they took?, a couple of cokes?".

    You run after them and it takes ages to catch them, especially if they
    have a head start.

    I chased a girl that took a magazine one time and the was feic'n fast.
    Next thing a car pulls up beside me, turns out the guy knows my boss.
    I hop in and we tear after her. haha it was brilliant!!! she tossed the
    magazine and attempted to hide in a garden.
    I searched till I found her and gave her every ounce of abuse I could think
    of without vomiting from running for ages. :D

    So yeah, why would the shop guy bother?

    I know I didn't bother chasing anyone after that, realised I was too
    unfit and by the time I would actually catch them I would be nearly
    dead from running. lol:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,991 ✭✭✭✭Mimikyu


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭consultech


    Yes, and I'd doitagain!

    By not ratting someone out, you will eventually foot the bill for the cost of what they stole through price increases.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    consultech wrote: »
    By not ratting someone out, you will eventually foot the bill for the cost of what they stole through price increases.

    So it's the shoplifters that have retail prices so high? Here's me thinking it's VAT and rip-off retailers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭funk-you


    stovelid wrote: »
    So it's the shoplifters that have retail prices so high? Here's me thinking it's VAT and rip-off retailers.

    No, it's the punters willing to pay the prices and not shop around. Something is only worth what someone will pay for it.

    -Funk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭Reganio 2


    Well I was a bit of a c-unit when it came to being robbed. Working in a fairly notorious pub as a barman I have had a gun held to me 4 times. The 1st time I kind of panicked and thought of all the great films where I take the gun off the bad guy and hold him up till the cops arrive. But of course Ijust stood there. The boss was there though and he seemed hesitant and all that but handed over the money. But then after it I thought "Hang on why should I get shot for someone else's money?" I was just above mimimum wage and they guy I know cleared the till about every 2 hours so their was never an obscene amount of money in the till. The next 3 times someone took out a gun I just threw the money at them before they had a chance to threaten me :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭sunnyside


    stovelid wrote: »
    So it's the shoplifters that have retail prices so high? Here's me thinking it's VAT and rip-off retailers.

    Well they do contribute to it. Shrinkage --isn't that what they call it in retail sector?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭~Marky~


    Reganio 2 wrote: »
    Well I was a bit of a c-unit when it came to being robbed. Working in a fairly notorious pub as a barman I have had a gun held to me 4 times. The 1st time I kind of panicked and thought of all the great films where I take the gun off the bad guy and hold him up till the cops arrive. But of course Ijust stood there. The boss was there though and he seemed hesitant and all that but handed over the money. But then after it I thought "Hang on why should I get shot for someone else's money?" I was just above mimimum wage and they guy I know cleared the till about every 2 hours so their was never an obscene amount of money in the till. The next 3 times someone took out a gun I just threw the money at them before they had a chance to threaten me :D


    4 times :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,814 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    There are A LOT of very well own serial shoplifters who target the Ilac centre, 95% of then are know as the security staff and most staff working in the centre for more then a month or two.

    Some of the worst have been in and out of jail an uncountable amount of times. But the shop manager and staff know it in the best instead to just let then be unless you want to be jumped and stabbed with either a knife or syringe while leave the centre.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,969 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Do security staff cooperate?
    We'll take Grafton St Dublin as an obvious but it could be any commerical street in any town

    If the local ne'er do wells arrive at one end of the street and cause hassle and get kicked out of some shop will the security guards radio their comrades further down the street, just as a heads-up?

    I know security is outsourced to different agencies but do they actually work together and help out?
    Not looking for confidental info, I'm just interested to know and I do hope that security guards working for different agencies would help each other :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,814 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    No they normal radio each other so they don't miss any of any hot/good looks girls walking around Grafton Street.
    mikemac wrote: »
    Do security staff cooperate?
    We'll take Grafton St Dublin as an obvious but it could be any commerical street in any town

    If the local ne'er do wells arrive at one end of the street and cause hassle and get kicked out of some shop will the security guards radio their comrades further down the street, just as a heads-up?

    I know security is outsourced to different agencies but do they actually work together and help out?
    Not looking for confidental info, I'm just interested to know and I do hope that security guards working for different agencies would help each other :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭tallaght01


    mikemac wrote: »
    Do security staff cooperate?
    We'll take Grafton St Dublin as an obvious but it could be any commerical street in any town

    If the local ne'er do wells arrive at one end of the street and cause hassle and get kicked out of some shop will the security guards radio their comrades further down the street, just as a heads-up?

    I know security is outsourced to different agencies but do they actually work together and help out?
    Not looking for confidental info, I'm just interested to know and I do hope that security guards working for different agencies would help each other :)

    I used to do security in a few shops in town.

    Most of the shops are hooked up by radio, so if you chuck someone out, or see someone bogey on the street you just radio the other guys. Or if you're about to nab someone you'd often radio your neighbour, so he'd just watch your back in case it got messy.

    BUt some shops are too scabby to pay for a radio/base fees for their security staff, so they have to wing it :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    BOFH_139 wrote: »
    No they normal radio each other so they don't miss any of any hot/good looks girls walking around Grafton Street.

    Code X


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Worked for a rather big grocery chain a few years back and a new manager was brought in a few weeks after I began. Shorttly after I was put on tills full time with one piece of advice, in case of a robbery protect the takings. I actually thought she was joking but turned out she was dead serious. I told her that if there was a robbery attempt on my chift I would open the till hand the tary to the robbers and calmly ask if they would like the contents of the other tills also.

    Having had a junkie hold a syringe to my neck and a jagged broken bottle against my jugular I'm not keen on getting hurt over someone elses money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    There was a couple of lads slicing open dvd vases and taking the discs in Virgin in the square a few years back. I had a look round and there was no security in the shop so on my way out I said it to the security guard at the clothes shop next door. A couple of them legged it in, I assume they caught the guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    In a pub beer garden. barmen went off on an errand, and some cow ran up, snatched a bottle of vodka, had a few sips and smashed the whole thing on the ground. Had to be vodka didnt it. Couldnt be a bottle of something that at least smelled inviting. so I said something. Owner let me drink free for a little bit after that.

    Darko I hope you mentioned that to someone above her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭LEIN


    Yes but worked in the shop at the time so don't know if that counts/


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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Overheal wrote: »
    Darko I hope you mentioned that to someone above her.

    Told her boss and his attitude was the same as hers, it really was a horrible place to work. Had me work till around 12:30am and then be expected to open up again at 7am. As a result I decided that if there was a robbery not only would I offer all the tills but ask if the would be robbers would like the keys to the cash office.

    Had a boss with the same attitude in my next job. One day a drunk came in holding a pint glass in his hand, he began pocketing cds and I asked him to stop he began getting violent and swinging the glass at my face at which stage I walked away. As far as I'm concerned in any job employee safety is paramount, stock, cash and everything else can easily be replaced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Acacia


    Reganio 2 wrote: »
    Well I was a bit of a c-unit when it came to being robbed. Working in a fairly notorious pub as a barman I have had a gun held to me 4 times. The 1st time I kind of panicked and thought of all the great films where I take the gun off the bad guy and hold him up till the cops arrive. But of course Ijust stood there. The boss was there though and he seemed hesitant and all that but handed over the money. But then after it I thought "Hang on why should I get shot for someone else's money?" I was just above mimimum wage and they guy I know cleared the till about every 2 hours so their was never an obscene amount of money in the till. The next 3 times someone took out a gun I just threw the money at them before they had a chance to threaten me :D
    ~Marky~ wrote: »
    4 times :eek:

    Sounds like the Kwik-E-Mart, constantly getting robbed. :pac:
    As far as I'm concerned in any job employee safety is paramount, stock, cash and everything else can easily be replaced.

    Damn right. The cheek of them. If it was your bosses who were being threatened with a dirty syringe they wouldn't be so keen to protect their stock and cash, I bet :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭doonothing


    I work in a siopa, so I do. Half to catch the lil ****ers, and half to see security leap into action like eastern european Batmen...


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