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Into The Wild question (spoiler inside)

  • 18-01-2009 12:51am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭


    Hi, I've read a bit about Christopher Mc Candless and know he died of starvation.

    I was wondering if the film is still worth watching giving I know he dies at the end?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,332 ✭✭✭311


    Personally I think it's a great film and would watch it again.
    Never read the book ,but the film clutches you in very well:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭Tristram


    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭Gillie


    Sure there are loads of movies based on people who have died.
    Would you not watch these?

    This movie is well worth seeing in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Monkey61


    Of course...I doubt anyone went to see that not knowing he died at the end. Did they??

    If anything the knowledge makes it a lot more moving.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 987 ✭✭✭keen


    Gillie wrote: »
    Sure there are loads of movies based on people who have died.
    Would you not watch these?

    This movie is well worth seeing in my opinion.

    I would watch them as I will this.

    I wanted to check that's all, I only know a small bit of the story and didn't want to be watching it if knowing the main character dies was to ruin it in some way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Nichololas


    keen wrote: »
    Hi, I've read a bit about Christopher Mc Candless and know he died of starvation.

    I was wondering if the film is still worth watching giving I know he dies at the end?

    That's the same reason I didn't watch The Passion of the Christ. Boooring. :pac:

    edit: and yeah, it's a good film and I would have watched it even if I knew he died at the end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    i knew nothing about Christopher Mc Candless before seeing the movie, but i found it very interesting. Emile Hirsch is brilliant in it, well worth watching!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭jc7


    would definitely watch this again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,819 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Ya I've heard this film is great but can't be bothered watching since I heard the film kind of glorifies what was IMO an astonishingly pretentious idiot who killed themselves through their own ignorance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    Ya I've heard this film is great but can't be bothered watching since I heard the film kind of glorifies what was IMO an astonishingly pretentious idiot who killed themselves through their own ignorance

    Pretty good synopsis. I found the whole movie contrived and overly sentimental. What makes this movie more infuriating is that this idiocy is being glorified by people who pilgrimage to where he died.

    Read the wiki article about on his negligence and you'll see how idiotic his death was (i.e. that there was a hand-operated tram a 1/4 mile down river from where he'd tried to cross, that he would of known about had he bothered to pick up a simple map at a gas station on his way)

    What's funny is that if a man walked into the desert, purposefully, without water and died we'd accept his idiocy, but a man goes into a wilderness, surrounds himself by food and provisions of nature and doesn't supply himself with the mental equivalent of water, knowledge, and we laud him as some social luminary?

    To me McCandless was merely a vehicle to show us the stories of others who actually knew what being free actually meant. His end was the result of a closed mind who had not bothered to learn anything from the people he had met on his journey.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    L31mr0d wrote: »
    Pretty good synopsis. I found the whole movie contrived and overly sentimental. What makes this movie more infuriating is that this idiocy is being glorified by people who pilgrimage to where he died.

    Read the wiki article about on his negligence and you'll see how idiotic his death was (i.e. that there was a hand-operated tram a 1/4 mile down river from where he'd tried to cross, that he would of known about had he bothered to pick up a simple map a gas station on his way

    What's funny is that if a man walked into the desert, purposefully, without water and died we'd accept his idiocy, but a man goes into a wilderness, surrounds himself by food and provisions of nature and doesn't supply himself with the mental equivalent of water, knowledge, and we laud him as some social luminary?

    To me McCandless was merely a vehicle to show us the stories of others who actually knew what being free actually meant. His end was the result of a closed mind who had not bothered to learn anything from the people he had met on his journey.

    Good point and kind of sums up how I felt watching the movie.

    It is a very well made film though with some beautiful scenes in it. If you generally like movies then yes I'd watch it for its quality alone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭Valmont


    L31mr0d wrote: »
    What makes this movie more infuriating is that this idiocy is being glorified by people who pilgrimage to where he died.

    You're completely wrong there.I spent 4 months in Alaska hiking, camping and climbing and having visited the bus where he died and talking to many locals and other hikers, I found that almost everyone recognised how unprepared and ultimately stupid McCandless' final adventure really was.

    The trek down the stampede road to the bus isn't really a pilgrimage, it's a very popular walkway in an area that is literally devoid of any real hiking trails. This offers inexperienced hikers a chance to experience the Alaskan bush with a very much reduced possibility of getting lost (the trail leads directly 28 miles from the highway to the bus).

    I think you would be hard pressed to find someone who wouldn't acknowledge McCandless' idiocy in planning to live in the Alaskan bush without a map and by only bringing a .22 rifle. In addition to this, he spat in the face of the Alaskan board of fish and game by killing his moose well out of season and to do this with a .22 was also quite cruel.

    What I'm trying to say is that it may seem like his idiocy is being glorified by people trekking to the bus but any hikers I met on this trail last summer (I was living right in the area) far from idolised McCandless and were simply excited to be able to get out into beautiful open country for a day or two without paying national park entrance and bus fees and by being able to have a camp fire (you can't have fires in the park).

    The movie itself however, completely glorified his stupidity in classic Hollywood fashion (not to say it wasn't enjoyable) and I would advise anyone with a real interest in the subject to read Jon Krakauer's book Into the Wild for a more balanced and objective look at the whole event.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 648 ✭✭✭exiot


    My mate ruined the ending as we were watching the starting credits, it's a great movie with some nice cinematography and a great soundtrack thats provided by Eddie Vedder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    Valmont wrote: »
    What I'm trying to say is that it may seem like his idiocy is being glorified by people trekking to the bus but any hikers I met on this trail last summer (I was living right in the area) far from idolised McCandless and were simply excited to be able to get out into beautiful open country for a day or two without paying national park entrance and bus fees and by being able to have a camp fire (you can't have fires in the park).

    I think his idiocy is lost on a lot of people who view him as being an individual who broke free from the grind of society. They highlight more what is meant by his actions and not the errors in his actions. I'm not saying you do, or the hikers you met, but a lot of people do view McCandless as a hero. An honor he most definitely does not deserve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭claiva


    gotta say I really enjoyed the movie, sure there were times when he annoyed me, but hey, he did what he thought he needed to do.
    If everyone did the right thing, life would have nothing for us to wonder about.
    I thought the movie looked beautiful and I have a new addition to my favorite actors list in Emile Hirsh.


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