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Advice on ~E500 MTB please

  • 17-01-2009 4:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭


    Looking at buying a new MTB, hardtail, disk brakes a must. Around 450-500 euro.
    Thinking something along the lines of these maybe:
    Specialized Hardrock
    Cube Analog
    Beone Karma 3
    Beone 10
    Cube Attention
    Felt Q620
    giant terrago

    What size should I be looking at for a 5'9"? My road bike is medium planetx, but my Giant road bike is L (probably a bit big for me if I'm honest) - what's the equivalent in MTB terms - they all seem to be sized in inches. Should I err on the side of larger or smaller?

    Thanks for any advice
    K


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭Karma


    same height and i use 16" and a 18"mtb
    btw cycological have a half price sale on 08 bikes...Kona etc...
    hope this helps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭Gavin


    My brother has a BeOne Karma 17". I'm sure he wouldn't mind letting you try it out for size. Doesn't come with disc brakes though, he stuck them on himself, around 100 for the brakes

    Sizewise, 16-17" would probably be best, err on the side of smaller with the mtb, can always get a larger stem/seatpost if needs be. Smaller, lighter, easier to throw around, more standover height.

    You not be better off sticking with the specialized frame you have and upgrade components? Could get a full new groupset, including wheels and disc brakes for that amount


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭kenmc


    nah the frame i have is 21 or 22 inches, inherited from my gigantic brother. it's also around 7 years old. It's not worth pouring money into - the rear won't take disk brakes even.
    This karma does have disks...
    25444.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭Gavin


    Sorry ! I assumed it was an older version of the Karma. Looks good! Decent groupset, decent forks, ok brakes and ok wheels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭Greyspoke


    Try checking out www.merlincycles.co.uk (I think that's the correct address) - the bikes they build are just about the best value around and are excellent general purpose trail bikes. I'm on my third at the moment. I'm also 5-9 and ride a medium 17in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭kenmc


    Greyspoke wrote: »
    Try checking out www.merlincycles.co.uk (I think that's the correct address) - the bikes they build are just about the best value around and are excellent general purpose trail bikes. I'm on my third at the moment. I'm also 5-9 and ride a medium 17in.

    What happened to the first 2 :p
    Thanks though , will have a look see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭fenris


    Don't go too small though - unless you enjoy being launched over the handlebars a lot if your top tube distance is too short!

    I learned the hard way to take more than frame height into account, on the plus side, my tuck and roll has improved mightily!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭concussion


    I like the Be-One Ten - lx and xt derailleurs, a good fork and decent brakes. The Juicy 3's would be comparable to the Deore LX I have and they're a good brake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭kenmc


    Thanks for all the advice so far.
    Throwing this into the mix too - how does it compare to the others?
    Focus FatBoy
    I quite like the look of it, but also like the look of the karma


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭Drapper


    kenmc wrote: »
    Thanks for all the advice so far.
    Throwing this into the mix too - how does it compare to the others?
    Focus FatBoy
    I quite like the look of it, but also like the look of the karma

    read this :- http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/bikes/mountain/product/fat-boy-08-28606

    looks tell you nothing about weight bro! ;-)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭Greyspoke


    Nothing bad happened to them - I just rode them for a couple of years and sold them to buy a new one. I would certainly recommend them. They usually do a few specials - I currently have a Malt 2 LX model (and the LX disc brakes are excellent).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,995 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    From my very limited MTB experience (2 spins :D), lockout on forks is fantastic, really helps with climbing and on the road- relevant to me as I'd often be cycling further to the trails than on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭kenmc


    yeah that's also a must - have that on my current setup - would expect it as standard on most bikes of this price range. Although occasionally I tend to forget to take it off after climbing - wondering why the track seems rougher than normal :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 dancecatz


    whats ur leg lenght, i think you should be looking at a 18" you don`t want to get a 16" an be to cramped it would be a killer climbing hills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭kenmc


    popped into cycleogical this evening. only thing they have close to that range is a trek4500 which he'd put disk brakes on - would be a deore groupset then. circa 700 euro. still better going with the karma or ten similar then I think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    Just digging this thread up to ask a question: Which bike did you go for kenmc?

    I have seen the appeal of mountain biking and am looking around for a good beginner's bike, nothing fancy. Just a cheap and cheerful workhorse to learn the basics on.

    I was looking at the Scott Aspect 45 and Merlin Malt as they got good reviews from Bikeradar. Are cycleogical still havin their sale? Is it worth my while popping in and seeing if they have any bargains around €500?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭kenmc


    Went for the Merlin Malt 1
    Hopefully be dispatched this week!
    Cyclogical had nothing in hardtail for that price range.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    Thinking of ordering one now. Not too keen on the paintjob, but it seems like the best offer for around 500 euro.

    I think we are similar enough in height, did you go with the 16.5"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    blorg wrote: »
    From my very limited MTB experience (2 spins :D), lockout on forks is fantastic

    ...as long as you remember to unlock them. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭kenmc


    I emailed them for their sizing advice, recommended 17.5". Yeah we're about the same - I'm 5'9" thereabouts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,995 ✭✭✭✭blorg


    Lumen wrote: »
    ...as long as you remember to unlock them. ;)
    Yes I was wondering why that section was so difficult all right :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭kenmc


    it's on it's way!!!! shipped this afternoon! Might be with me on friday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭Greyspoke


    Congrats on choosing the Merlin - I don't think you'll be disappointed. It's a lot of bike for the money, especially when its been reduced down to £450. Basic Deore is sound gear and not too expensive to replace should you break anything. The bar mounted lockout for the forks is very useful too - it's much easier to press the button on the bar than having to reach down to the fork itself when you find you're on a tricky bit of trail and realise the forks are still locked!


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