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Wireless RJ45 link

  • 16-01-2009 3:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭


    I was wondering if anyone knows of a device that will plug into an RJ45 data wall point in a room and link to a wireless device something that links into the RJ45 port of a laptop , or its wifi or something. I want it for work for people coming in, so a quick plug and play solution. something that will just plug into a lap top and give access to our wired NW. I dont want to keep giving outsiders access to our wireless connection, and the long patch lead is a H&S risk.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭snappieT


    You already have Wifi in the office?

    You could buy another Wifi router, or Wifi access point, and set it to Bridge mode. This will pickup the existing wireless signal and convert it to RJ45. User just plugs the cable in, no setting up keys on the computer required.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭mick84


    Not 100% sure what you are asking for.
    Could you repeat the question abit better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    but would that not mean I'd still need a cable, I don't want a cable.

    I just want simple fool proof access to the network that does not use a cable from the laptop to the wall outlet, or does not require an encryption key.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    essentially, someone walks into our board room, to get onto the network then need our system password and the knowledge of how to put it in.

    Very often neither the guys we have in the office, or the visitors know how to input our access key and get onto the network

    The leads from the laptops to the wall are long and messy and someone will trip on one some day. We can't chase the floor to put a floorbox under the table.

    I have a feeling I'm missing something obvious here and I'm going to look like a tit. :)

    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭mick84


    question
    Do you have network shares on your network ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭snappieT


    Stoner wrote: »
    but would that not mean I'd still need a cable, I don't want a cable.

    I just want simple fool proof access to the network that does not use a cable from the laptop to the wall outlet, or does not require an encryption key.
    You don't need a cable to the wall with what I suggested.

    You already have a wireless network. You buy a second access point which sits on the desk, and picks up this existing wireless network. You run a cable from this access point (on the desk) to the machine. Done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    I'm impressed, that will work by setting the 2nd router to work in Station mode, but then you are limited to the number of LAN ports on the wifi router, another method would be to get another wifi router as previously said and attach it to one of the LAN ports on your office router then the WAN port of the 2nd router and set the security to open access and change the IP subnet to different from the office one, now I suggest that you turn this extra router off and only use it on the days you need the service in the boardroom. I take it the boardroom is already in range of the office router so the 2nd one can be next to the office one on a different channel and ssid.

    Not the most elegant of solutions but then I wouldn't let anyone who can't enter an SSID and password use any network I admin... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    snappieT wrote: »
    You don't need a cable to the wall with what I suggested.

    You already have a wireless network. You buy a second access point which sits on the desk, and picks up this existing wireless network. You run a cable from this access point (on the desk) to the machine. Done.


    I get you now, not a bad idea, but the second access point would still need a lead to a power point, I'm trying to avoid leads from the walls to the desk, people just want access while they run off the battery

    And yes we do have network shares,

    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭mick84


    ok ,
    so you want people who use the conference room to have access to your network via wireless and have access to the network drives without having to put any passwords in to gain access to your network or to gain basic internet access.

    To me this is stupid.

    But a way to do this is remove all the authentication off your network meaning remove your wireless password off the your wireless router and remove authentication off your domain controller.

    So when someone enters into the conference room they will have access to everything.

    If I was you I would just setup a second router as suggested above

    Good luck with that :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    I never mentioned not having passwords and giving everyone and anyone access to the network, I said I did not want to give outsiders our encryption key.

    I always intended that usner name and passwords would be used, as everyone does every day, I just wanted to have no leads running to the desk.

    So the above idea with a plug and play USB adaptor should work.

    Something like this maybe ??

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-SNK5600-Wireless-Adapter-Starter/dp/B000KN2YJM

    I was hoping for something a little smaller, but thanks for the input guys I might get the guys to do something like this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭snappieT


    No, that will still need a username and password to be entered for each of the new computers that connect.

    I know what you're looking for - a USB Wifi dongle with the security configured on the device itself rather than in software on the host - but it doesn't exist. There isn't enough power in RJ45 to power a wifi dongle without an external power source.

    Your best bet is the dual-router solution, but it is far from ideal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    I agree / concur that the dual router idea isn't the best but it will work, but you want the users to be able to access the DC? then you'll have to do some thinking as I'm not sure the suggested solution above will work.... Might work.... Have a go and try...

    How many users are you thinking you might need to connect at any one time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭hobochris


    the device your looking for is called a wireless router :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    hobochris wrote: »
    the device your looking for is called a wireless router :P

    READ the thread! :rolleyes:


    MC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    snappieT wrote: »
    No, that will still need a username and password to be entered for each of the new computers that connect.

    I know what you're looking for - a USB Wifi dongle with the security configured on the device itself rather than in software on the host - but it doesn't exist. There isn't enough power in RJ45 to power a wifi dongle without an external power source.

    Your best bet is the dual-router solution, but it is far from ideal.

    that's it, thanks for the insight. I was hoping there was a device that could be paired to the dongle, we could simply take it back when the session was over, and they never had the encryption key on their PC during the session.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner



    How many users are you thinking you might need to connect at any one time?

    Just one TBH. We get a lot of guys in who require the WEB for presentations. We are also getting a new IS system in and some of them need to access our data on the server , the financial guys keep using USB keys to get the data over and back to them (it's only sample stuff but still our data format), the 3G connections are a little ropey and keep flicking off in our building for some reason.

    these guys have their own software on their PCs so just using one of ours is not an option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    OK Have to go buy beer for the beating that Munster are going to give out to Sale later but I'll have a think and see if I can think of something suitable.

    GL

    MC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    OK Have to go buy beer for the beating that Munster are going to give out to Sale later but I'll have a think and see if I can think of something suitable.

    GL

    MC

    Good luck with it, I would have thought you were doing that long cycle to France for charity with all those skinny spandex type people though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭MunsterCycling


    Eh no, that would be another life time.... lol

    MC


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