Running it twice/chopping pots ect

kennyrsb

I dont play alot of cash games myself but recently i was out in the Atari expo (in tallaght) and almost every time two players or more got the money in pre flop they decided to do a deal, where they would run it for what was in the middle before they moved in or take back a percentage of the pot according to their hand strenght. Also they would run the turn and river 3 or 4 times, i was'nt involved in this much except if i thought i was getting the better deal (many of them didint quite know when they were favourite ect),

I was just wondering weather some of the cash players are for or against this,
does it encourage collusion?
is fold equity lost?

Just wondering the pro's and con's

Killme00

kennyrsb wrote: »

does it encourage collusion?

yes

kennyrsb wrote: »

is equity lost?

I once chopped a pot with Trippie where i was 80% ahead, i misread the board and his hand

Trippie

Killme00 wrote: »

I once chopped a pot with Trippie where i was 80% ahead, i misread the board and his hand

80%, was it that low? I could of sworn it was more

Killme00

Trippie wrote: »

80%, was it that low? I could of sworn it was more

lol

Jam-Fly

In general, I'm a big fan of it as it makes the game more entertaining/interesting, and as you've said, many times it may be advantageous to you.

But, in my experience this would happen fairly rarely, maybe once an hour at most. If it happens with alot of regularity, I would definitely watch out for collusion.

Mellor

If I am repeatedly getting a good deal then i'll take it.
I've only every done it once mind

Killme00

it also slows down the game and as such costs you money

Jesus Wept

Have played a live cash game in an age, but this was happening the last time I did, annoying as fúck, the game stops while two tossers barter like they are in chinatown.

It's poker, not communism ffs.
Deal the cards.

Moneymaker

Trippie wrote: »

80%, was it that low? I could of sworn it was more

You know you'd have drawn out.

gondorff

As I have said in a previous thread on doing deals:

It's tantamount to passing chips and it slows the game.

I dealt to a game where it was allowed, and it happened every time this certain fella was in a pot.

What's the fcucking point? As has been said, it's poker not communism.

Trippie

Moneymaker wrote: »

You know you'd have drawn out.

obv this was around the time I was running like god. i think he just offered the chop because he had resigned himself to losing the pot if we ran it out so the chance to get half back was the obvious option

Samba

Shouldn't be allowed unless there is at least a 250+bb pot

With that said, if you're in a game and this is happening every hand, you normally should have the right to object to any such activities.

After all, you are paying good rake to play.

Trippie

Samba wrote: »

Shouldn't be allowed unless there is at least a 250+bb pot

With that said, if you're in a game and this is happening every hand, you normally should have the right to object to any such activities.

After all, you are paying good rake to play.

why should the amount of bb's in the pot effect if its allowed or not. Is the 250 bb number the number you chose because thats the amount you think is too much. 250 bb's is just over a buy-in for each of the people involved. If you're afraid of losing a buy-in and a half then you'll always have problems winning a good bit

Killme00

The pot was massive in our case...+2000 bbs

Trippie

Killme00 wrote: »

The pot was massive in our case...+2000 bbs

lol

Samba

Trippie wrote: »

why should the amount of bb's in the pot effect if its allowed or not. Is the 250 bb number the number you chose because thats the amount you think is too much. 250 bb's is just over a buy-in for each of the people involved. If you're afraid of losing a buy-in and a half then you'll always have problems winning a good bit

are you on drugs?

Insert x x bb to what you see fit.

My point being is that you don't have guys with 20 bb stacks getting it in and running 15 times every 3rd hand.

Killme00

how we got it in i'll never know

bet, raise, reraise..fck you you ginger bstrd raise, fck you too you ginger bstrd...allin