Irish Masons

iPlop

Lads I was just wondering about this.Now we all know in all major goverments around the globe --USA ,UK, Austrailia etc all the major figure heads are above 33 degree freemasons (with the exception of bush his father is though)anyway how many of our politicions and business leaders here in ireland are masons ,anyone know ?

Septic Leper

Septic Leper wrote: »

Lads I was just wondering about this.Now we all know in all major goverments around the globe --USA ,UK, Austrailia etc all the major figure heads are above 33 degree freemasons (with the exception of bush his father is though)

We know this how?

indough

do we really know they're all masons though?

edit: beat me to it

check this out: http://www.masonicinfo.com/famous1.htm

iPlop

http://www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/famousprint.htm

a few more

Septic Leper

Septic Leper wrote: »

http://www.geocities.com/endtimedeception/famousprint.htm

a few more

Well if you read it there it must be true.
Nothing on an website with no references has never been wrong before.

Sofa_King Good

Here are some links on Ireland and occult/ freemasonry:

Yeats: http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/archive-wbyeats.htm

Druids; http://www.druidism.info/

The Hellfire Club; http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/archivehellfireclub.htm

Rosacrucians and the 4 leaf clover: http://masonic.benemerito.net/msricf/papers/marples/marples-4leafclover.pdf

IRB and Orange lodge: http://www.taroscopes.com/miscellanous-pages/briefhistoryireland.html

Most Crucially I belive the united Irishmen were freemasons.

indough

Not having a go but do we have proof these organizations were/are linked to freemasonry?

DublinWriter

Septic Leper wrote: »

anyway how many of our politicions and business leaders here in ireland are masons ,anyone know ?

No politicians and perhaps a handful of 'old-money' businessmen.

Freemasonary in Ireland (especially Dublin) is primarily an old Ulster COI boy's club.

Kernel

DublinWriter wrote: »

No politicians and perhaps a handful of 'old-money' businessmen.

Freemasonary in Ireland (especially Dublin) is primarily an old Ulster COI boy's club.

There are several boardsies who are members also.

Sofa_King Good

My girlfriends dad is minted and he is a mason. Apparently they're no more than a community social club. I'm gonna try and get invlolved through him anyway. I'll let you know how the infiltration goes.

Frankie Lee

How many people involved in Anglo Irish Bank are freemasons I wonder?

iPlop

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

My girlfriends dad is minted and he is a mason. Apparently they're no more than a community social club.

until you get to 33 degrees ,then it's all ghouls and monsters and depopulation and world war 3 and shifty hankshakes apparently;)

ColinJennings

I always trust websites with the tag line

Exposing the Masonic Conspiracy of the Illuminati's New World Order

and index.html pages that do not like to anything.

Flamed Diving

Their Grand Lodge in Dublin is adjacent to Leinster House.

*cue spooky music*

Sofa_King Good

Two prime candidates would be Peter Sutherland & David O'Sullivan

"PETER SUTHERLAND is chairman of BP and Goldman Sachs International. He was the founding director general of the World Trade Organisation (WTO)and had previously been director general of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT). He was chairman of AIB from 1989 to 1993. A barrister, he was attorney general of Ireland and thus a member of the Irish government. He was a member of the European Commission in charge of competition policy. He is on the board of the Royal Bank of Scotland Group and is associated with the World Economic Forum, World Trade Organisation, the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission and the European Round Table of Industrialists. He is European chairman of the Trilateral Commission. He has an honorary knighthood, and is the UN Special Representative for Immigration.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/innovation/2008/0211/1201903736457.html


And, director general for trade at the EU Commission David O'Sullivan.




"Our view is that it's very important to inject new confidence and good news, to demonstrate that the world trading system has life in it. The World Trade Organisation is the only place where the new world order is at work - where the EU, US, China, India and Brazil sit around a table."If we can't make it work for trade how can we make it work for the global economic crisis, for climate change or other global governance issues?" director general for trade at the EU Commission http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2008/1018/1224279405272.html

spinaltap

SURE IM A MASON , STONE MASON

Flamed Diving

They haven't done badly for a bunch of block-layers, eh?

Time Magazine

Sofa_King Good wrote: »

PETER SUTHERLAND

"Suds" went to Gonzaga and is Catholic as far as I know.

Aye Matey!

The Economist wrote: »

"Suds" went to Gonzaga and is Catholic as far as I know.

Graduated from UCD btw.

meathstevie

What's the big deal with masons anyway..as far as I can see they've quite often been a force of enlightenment and progress. Granted a fair few are probably quite minted and could be deemed to be some sort of an old boys clubs enjoying yintage port and whiskey but all in all I wouldn't worry about them at all, on the contrary.

Aye Matey!

meathstevie wrote: »

What's the big deal with masons anyway..as far as I can see they've quite often been a force of enlightenment and progress. Granted a fair few are probably quite minted and could be deemed to be some sort of an old boys clubs enjoying yintage port and whiskey but all in all I wouldn't worry about them at all, on the contrary.

It depends on who you ask really. CT enthusiasts will tell you that masonry was infiltrated by the Bavarian Illuminati who are a derivative of the Knights Templar who incidentally went underground with the caballistic secrets of the east. A skeptic will tell you that its an old boys club.

While theres nothing wrong with enjoying a vintage whiskey or port its the conversation that ensues is what tantalizes many a conspiracy theorist.

pablomc7

Yes it is quite spooky that the grand lodge of Ireland is just across the road from Lenister house, ive heard rumours that in fact there is an underground tunnel that leads directly from the lodge to Lenister house. Many Irish TD,s are Masons and a hell of a lot of influential buissness figures too. But most worryingly is the number of judges and police who are members.
Some people believe that Sean Quinn is the fall guy for the masons here, as he is a member of the GAA and of a republican secret society, of course Irish masons would be directly opposed to any other secret society, those at the top of Anglo and government circles decided this man and his family had to go so the wheels were put in motion.
They are there and all round us, one must open the eyes first to see