a finished recording

hexagramer

hey i recorded this band awhile ago last year and its now up on my page,

www.myspace.com/producernickcasey

if you could give it a listen and tell me what you think that would be great!

the band i recorded were 13 conditions, there young school-guys and its there first record, i recorded them by bringingmy stuff out to there rehersal place.

TelePaul

hexagramer wrote: »

hey i recorded this band awhile ago last year and its now up on my page,

www.myspace.com/producernickcasey

if you could give it a listen and tell me what you think that would be great!

the band i recorded were 13 conditions, there young school-guys and its there first record, i recorded them by bringingmy stuff out to there rehersal place.

Hate the vocals on the first one. But it's probably a performance issue more than a mixing one. Same for the second one. Snare soounds like a piccolo?

PaulBrewer

The vocal performance does seem weak on the first track. The vocal also seems like a perfect candidate for compression to help it sit in the track better.

TelePaul

PaulBrewer wrote: »

The vocal performance does seem weak on the first track. The vocal also seems like a perfect candidate for compression to help it sit in the track better.

I was gonna say that but didn't wanna use the 'C' word!

hexagramer

oh ill have to agree thats the best i could do with the vocals on this,

the mic i used was a tbone sct 700......oh how i despise t.bone it was all i had to make do with,

the snare was just dampenned and when i opted to take the dampner ring there was growls at the teeth

Keithaburke

hexagramer wrote: »

hey i recorded this band awhile ago last year and its now up on my page,

www.myspace.com/producernickcasey

if you could give it a listen and tell me what you think that would be great!

the band i recorded were 13 conditions, there young school-guys and its there first record, i recorded them by bringingmy stuff out to there rehersal place.

Well,
I'd say some of the most impressive stuff I've seen in a studio is not in technical expertise but psycology. You'd need to have a few tricks up your sleeve to convince artists to play in a way that sounds good when being recorded.

"I think you've a better take in you..." is one of the most used, but still one of my favourites.

The singer needs to give it more welly... so you could just blast the cans at him... and see if he sings louder. The tone will change if he puts more into the singing. It's a bit lacklustre at the moment.

Is there some sort of gating on the drums? You should have got Ringo to play. The guitars sound a bit def leopard to me, that is to say, the settings are a bit dated. Most of this is stuff that's not desk or mic related. If the band sound good in the live room... the engineers job will always be easier.

I heard Phil Spector used to carry a handgun into the studio. That might have been useful in the case of your snare sound.

It's all a matter of taste.

Keith

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Not bad, but as the guys said the vocals need a bit of work, the bass sounds a little weedy too to be honest, for that style it could do with a bit more low end.
Did you do much production on the track yourself?

TelePaul

I'm not saying the snare is bad...I was just expecting something fatter with a little more rattle. I like the drum track alot. As it is, with the guitars, it sounds a little Police-ish...although that's possibly being a bit too kind!

Having another good listen now. As was stated, there are significant performance issues - vocals are pitchy in spots and he's holding back waaay too much! Brick wall that bad boy and get some air in there! The bass seems quite staccato and is a little too similar to the guitar; none of which is your fault of course, but it's probably hampering an objective critique of the mix. If you're at a complete loss with the vocals, you could always try the ol' overdriven, lo-fi, lead vocal trick - think 'Spoonman' by Soundgarden.

As for the second tune - yeah, same issues with the vocals, seem very much in need of compression. I like the lead guitar motiffe but I'd make it a little wetter for that '60's surf' vibe that's being hinted at. And I'd boost the snare a little, when the other instruments drop out, the snare fills sound a little week (0.16, for example)

The above is just my 0.2 cents, and I know pretty much nothing about mixing etiquette.

TelePaul

Keithaburke wrote: »

I heard Phil Spector used to carry a handgun into the studio. That might have been useful in the case of your snare sound.

And look where that got him!!!

Jimbo808

TelePaul wrote: »

And look where that got him!!!

Legally, you are NOT allowed imply that!!

J*808

Ian C

TelePaul wrote: »

And look where that got him!!!

Aye, being the only person who ever made Leonard Cohen produce a bad album! :pac:

Jimbo808

studiorat

^^^^
used to be my gearslutz acvatar.

DamagedTrax

so robert smith has finally succombed to old age :pac::pac:

PaulBrewer

Jimbo808 wrote: »

No wonder he only worked in Mono ...

Jimbo808

I watched the documentary about him at the time of the trial and he actually referred to this as his "Jew Fro" !!!

J*808