Smoking on the job?

msg11

This might seem like a undercut at members, always pointing out the bad etc..

Anyway, noticed two Gardai parked up drinking coffee and the driver smoking. Surely if you where a non smoker, would this not piss you off? And this was in an unmarked car..

li@mo

If they were on duty, then the car is deemed a 'place of work' and he/she was breaking the smoking ban.

......or are gardai exempt from this?

it wud piss me off if i was stuck in the passenger seat

FGR

I may be wrong in this but I believe the code only refers to uniform members not being allowed smoke in public view.

Most members are obliging when it comes to it. If they know the other person in the car doesn't like it they normally wait until they're back in the station.

Geri Boyle

I cant see why wearing/ not wearing a uniform would have any bearing on a workplace ban on smoking. As far as I am aware (and I could be wrong here) the only places exempt are prisons/ mental institutions. Oh and some hotel rooms provided there is a minimum waiting period before a member of staff enters the room. Even a sales rep in his/her own car on his/ her own is technically not allowed to smoke as it is their place of work.

pa990

I think ForeGoneReality was referring to Garda Regulations as oppesed to Legal Requirements.


Anyway.. i've been to plenty of workplaces where smoking takes place.. even a few licensed establishments.

As for the two Gardai in a car smoking.. i dont see any problem withtthat, as long as the observer has no objection (or vice versa)

msg11

pa990 wrote: »

I think ForeGoneReality was referring to Garda Regulations as oppesed to Legal Requirements.


Anyway.. i've been to plenty of workplaces where smoking takes place.. even a few licensed establishments.

As for the two Gardai in a car smoking.. i dont see any problem withtthat, as long as the observer has no objection (or vice versa)

No objection myself, was wondering about the non smoker. Or a person who is complainant with the smoking ban.

FGR

pa990 wrote: »

I think ForeGoneReality was referring to Garda Regulations as oppesed to Legal Requirements.

Correct!

Geri Boyle

Isnt the whole point of the ban to take the onus off the non smoker..ie. it doesnt matter whether they mind or not, its still illegal to smoke! I cant imagine that law not applying to Gardai. Whatever about road bye-laws and speed limits hindering their work, they are not exempt from other laws surely?

pa990

Blue Belle wrote: »

Isnt the whole point of the ban to take the onus off the non smoker..ie. it doesnt matter whether they mind or not, its still illegal to smoke! I cant imagine that law not applying to Gardai. Whatever about road bye-laws and speed limits hindering their work, they are not exempt from other laws surely?

Yes.. the law applies equally to gardai .. the same as anyone else.




(i really dont see where this thread is going)

msg11

pa990 wrote: »

Yes.. the law applies equally to gardai .. the same as anyone else.




(i really dont see where this thread is going)

Well would you be pissed off is the real question?

deadwood

ForegoneReality wrote: »

I may be wrong in this but I believe the code only refers to uniform members not being allowed smoke in public view.

Most members are obliging when it comes to it. If they know the other person in the car doesn't like it they normally wait until they're at the back of the station.

Little edit there!

Used to be allowed smoke, in uniform, in public between 1am and 5am, but this was changed a good few years ago to a 24 hour ban.

It's lovely starting a shift in the car at 6am and it stinks of smoke.

Looks bad too, in my opinion.

Except for this guy -

pa990

I'm a smoker.. i smoke in certain cars, and only with certain people in the car.

Eru

pa990 wrote: »

I'm a smoker.. i smoke in certain cars, and only with certain people in the car.

In my days of driving a car I did also but I was and still am mindful of non smokers when they are around me including my own car and house, its common courtasy. If the observer has an issue with it then they were free to say so when I asked and I would not light up.

Having said that, I still smoke and I work in a one man office. I get no break, have no emergency exit and no backdoor, etc so yes, I will smoke while working. If you dont like it, well guess what? You know where the front door is!

Most countries with a smoking ban have allowances, for example a workplace with only the smoker working in it is exempt from the ban as are certain communal areas provided there is seperation of areas and ventilation. Again its common sense and courtesy that should be playing major parts in this. I read a magazine about haulage recently and it was talking about truck drivers being fined. Thats not right, its their truck and they are in it alone.

eroo

Karlitosway1978 wrote: »

In my days of driving a car I did also but I was and still am mindful of non smokers when they are around me including my own car and house, its common courtasy. If the observer has an issue with it then they were free to say so when I asked and I would not light up.

Pity more people don't share your view, in all walks of life.

Do ye have designated smoking areas outside stations or anything?