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VRT - Avoiding it!

  • 08-01-2009 12:16am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭


    Have a VRT question that hopefully somebody can answer


    Have a sister who lives in UK. Can she bring in a Car and put it in Irish plates (not paying VRT as she owned car for 6 months etc etc). Then i could drive it on her Insurance. Is there some requirement for her to move back to Ireland for her to avoid paying the VRT. What is to stop her doing this and just buying herself another car in the UK?

    any1 know?:confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,694 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Wouldn't she have to have a registered address in Ireland to first register it here. And then if she bought one in England, she'd either have to bring it over here(and pay VRT), or get an address back in England again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭Dave147


    seanie500 wrote: »
    Have a VRT question that hopefully somebody can answer


    Have a sister who lives in UK. Can she bring in a Car and put it in Irish plates (not paying VRT as she owned car for 6 months etc etc). Then i could drive it on her Insurance. Is there some requirement for her to move back to Ireland for her to avoid paying the VRT. What is to stop her doing this and just buying herself another car in the UK?

    any1 know?:confused:

    I have no idea how that would work, but I hope that somehow you make it work, robbing bastards..

    *Hears a stampede of Motors do-gooders on the way!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭david


    If you have a homeplace in ireland, just get her to register it there in her name. Then transfer it to your name when she goes back hence avoiding VRT.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    hope it works out for ya op.bloody vrt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭pipsqueak


    have a feeling this thread will be locked VERY soon!!:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Get her to bring it in, she stays the "owner" for the year, while you just get insured on the car.

    Done and done.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    ^shouldnt see why, its not illegal... In a way :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭pipsqueak


    R_H_C_P wrote: »
    ^shouldnt see why, its not illegal... In a way :p

    ways of avoiding tax hmm id say so (even if vrt is the most filthy disgusting hideous two faced, horrible, tax ever known to man!!!)grrrr!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,694 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I hope boards.ie/motors run a canidate in the next election on the scrap vrt ticket:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭pipsqueak


    vehicle raping tax!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭david


    As soon as she has registers it to an irish address she can go back to the UK and 'sell' the car to you. I can't see them looking for more than a bank a/c statement etc. as proof of address to register it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,694 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    As soon as she has registers it to an irish address she can go back to the UK and 'sell' the car to you

    Can any UK resident do that? Can they only do it the once?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 skinny6781


    It not that easy ,
    yes she can take the car in for free if she lived in england or northen ireland for over 5 months , but she cannot sell the car for a year plus she is the old one allowed to drive the car , uncle did this and his son imported the car from the uk as he was living there for 3 years , but the customs stoped and impounded the car as the uncle was driving it , had to pay a extra 5% on top off the vrt to get it back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    If she has a PPS number that's one obstace sorted, but Revenue tend to look for proof of moving...utility bills etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭seanie500


    skinny6781 wrote: »
    It not that easy ,
    yes she can take the car in for free if she lived in england or northen ireland for over 5 months , but she cannot sell the car for a year plus she is the old one allowed to drive the car , uncle did this and his son imported the car from the uk as he was living there for 3 years , but the customs stoped and impounded the car as the uncle was driving it , had to pay a extra 5% on top off the vrt to get it back.


    but how would customs or the police for that matter quiz anything in teh 1st place as the car would be on irish plates with tax etc??:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    seanie500 wrote: »
    but how would customs or the police for that matter quiz anything in teh 1st place as the car would be on irish plates with tax etc??:confused:
    I suspect the idiots didn't change the plates. Otherwise it wouldn't have been detectable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭pipsqueak


    seanie500 wrote: »
    but how would customs or the police for that matter quiz anything in teh 1st place as the car would be on irish plates with tax etc??:confused:
    can u not just pay it like the rest of us ???
    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,694 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    pipsqueak wrote: »
    can u not just pay it like the rest of us ???
    :confused:

    but it's wrong pipsqueak, it's a wrong tax:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭pipsqueak


    but it's wrong pipsqueak, it's a wrong tax:(

    your right me man its a double taxation a filthy horrible one i could not agree more but its a tax and its illegal to drive a car on a pubic road without it being paid. I paid 6k last year on a beemer , the way i see it if i pay it why shouldnt anybody else????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,084 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Lots of ignorant posters posting wrong information on this thread (not the regulars btw). See here for the real info.

    Not your ornery onager



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭congo_90


    this thread seems a little bit off.. Advice on how to essentially ilegally drive a car and avoid paying the tax? If you want to get a car why not buy here in Ireland? why?

    foolish posters: Oh no boo hoo cars are too dear and 5mph slower here! I can get a faster car cheaper and be a twat who then avoids paying the extra money and putting up with the hassle.

    Me to fools: Save the hassle. Go to a dealer/private seller and buy a car. Pay the nominal Tax rate here in the good ol republic. If that extra speed is soooo important then check out the modified motors forum here for tune ups.

    For those of us who see common sense, I bid you all welcome :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭craichoe


    congo_90 wrote: »
    this thread seems a little bit off.. Advice on how to essentially ilegally drive a car and avoid paying the tax? If you want to get a car why not buy here in Ireland? why?

    foolish posters: Oh no boo hoo cars are too dear and 5mph slower here! I can get a faster car cheaper and be a twat who then avoids paying the extra money and putting up with the hassle.

    Me to fools: Save the hassle. Go to a dealer/private seller and buy a car. Pay the nominal Tax rate here in the good ol republic. If that extra speed is soooo important then check out the modified motors forum here for tune ups.

    For those of us who see common sense, I bid you all welcome :)

    They wouldn't be illegally driving a car, they would be avoiding VRT, that would be like saying you smuggle in too many cigarettes from a non EU country you are illegally smoking.

    Tax is tax, driving is driving.

    Theres no easy way around it though, can't sell it for a year after she registers it in the republic and it has to be registered where she is resident (i.e. spends most of her time working and living)

    Once the car is transferred over from her name to someone else before the year she'll get a bill from the revenue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭DanGlee


    VRT gets my goat!

    Don't pay it (and please don't reply with ignorant posts!)

    Its illegal for them to tax you, so you don't pay it. Two rights and all that!

    I have my car for 3 years and still on yella reg! **** 'em!

    /prob get pulled over today for that comment! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭demag


    OP, if you want to legally get around this do a search for "irish drivers association".
    afaik VRT is illegal under EU law and according to our constitution customs do not have the power to take your car without a court order. Most people when told the car is being confiscated hand over the keys essentially giving them the car. They cannot take the car without your consent, this is theft.
    Check out that site anyway they know what they're talking about.
    And before the begrudgers start I paid 7k on a car last year but since I found out about all this I'll not pay next time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    congo_90 wrote: »
    this thread seems a little bit off.. Advice on how to essentially ilegally drive a car and avoid paying the tax? If you want to get a car why not buy here in Ireland? why?

    foolish posters: Oh no boo hoo cars are too dear and 5mph slower here! I can get a faster car cheaper and be a twat who then avoids paying the extra money and putting up with the hassle.

    Me to fools: Save the hassle. Go to a dealer/private seller and buy a car. Pay the nominal Tax rate here in the good ol republic. If that extra speed is soooo important then check out the modified motors forum here for tune ups.

    For those of us who see common sense, I bid you all welcome :)
    Thats a foolish post, why should some people pay up to double the price of a vehicle when they can get it for half in the north or uk. Maybe you have a well paid job and this dosen't bother you to pay excessively high prices compared to the UK but I guarantee you thats not the case with 90% of Irish people, espically with the currant credit crunch etc.

    NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY VRT!!!*


    *I know its illegal but meh I wouldn't care if it saves me at least €5000.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    tsk ..leave it to the nightshift to feck things up again :D

    OP if you do what you suggest both you and your sister are comitting an offence. Don't know what the consequences are if you get caught, but I assume it wouldn't be cheap

    As we don't discuss illegal activities here ....closed


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