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celtic 100k plate

  • 07-01-2009 12:55pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭


    Is any body plannin on doin it.its a week after conn.be able to get a good weeks taper....fb


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭hunnymonster


    I would love to do it but it clashes with my beach holiday this year :-) Maybe next year if it stays early in the year. If it reverts to May, it might be too close to triathlon season for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,051 ✭✭✭MCOS


    Nutters, the both of ye :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Hard Worker


    ultraman1 wrote: »
    Is any body plannin on doin it.its a week after conn.be able to get a good weeks taper....fb

    Is it an open event? I know of someone who might be interested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭hunnymonster


    Last I heard it was going to be an open event. That was a while ago when the final locations hadn't even been decided. Not sure how it works with the teams, they may have to be noiminated before the start?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Enduro


    Yes, its an open event. Only 30 euro to enter. Plenty of details on the website

    National teams are chosen by their relevant governing bodies. I don't think there are any other team aspects to the race.

    And I'll be doing it. I haven't raced a 100K race since the phoenix park race in 2005. Need to get in some speedwork soon :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭Alicano


    Have a 100k down on my ' to do ' list for 2009 but wudnt get my act together in time for march..dam it.
    Never knew about this race.
    Ultraman1/Enduro u sound like beasts!..would love sum pointers on running this distance and where best to have a go at it.
    Done conn ultra and 3 marathons in 3 conseq days last year and although im not much of a speed freak and dont really class myself as a runner i seem to enjoy the fear of training for an ultra event and see this as the next step up?
    What u reckon?..is it really vicious and shud i kop on!?:confused:
    Best of luck with it..i bow in your presence!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Enduro


    If you completed the Conn ultra then you've run further than I did before I did my first 100k. You sound like you're well capable of giving it a go. The only way you'll know for sure is by giving it a go! Its not particularly vicious. Most people would consider doing a Marathon to be really hard, but you've done 3 in a row.

    What time did you complete the Conn ultra in? What's your marathon PB?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭Mick Rice


    This one is going to be on my doorstep in Galway and I'd love to give it a lash. It's going to be hard to be in really good shape by the end of March but I'm trying to be optimistic. Have done some 100k's before and I did find them a step up from races in the 30-40 mile range, but they're still very doable. Obviously pacing is the key. It'd be great to see a strong Irish presence at the race both in terms of numbers and quality as no doubt the English will send a strong enough team and it'd be a pity to see them have it all their own way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    Anybody have any comments/opinions on recovery from conn ultra til celtic plate a week later.will give it a go but dont want a DNF after my name.any body else in?:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭hunnymonster


    This is just my opinion without science to back it up. You're not going to perform at both races. I'd even go so far as to say, I'm almost sure you're not going to perform well at the anglo-celtic plate a week after connemara. that said, there is no reason why a good, experienced runner cannot complete both quite easily. You would just need to decide, if you want to go balls out in connemara and suffer along the prom or if you go conservatively in Connemara and enjoy the second race more. I would definately give yourself a proper recovery week or two after them though as it is a tough ask.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Enduro


    I'd completely agree with HM. Having said that, I've done a 100K and the Wicklow Ultra a week apart before. It was by far the slowest I ever ran the Wicklow Ultra though. Wouldn't recommend it unless you're a serious ultrarunner (in experience and training terms). I doubt you'd enjoy the ACP much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1


    thanks for d advice guys,have registered for the acp and will decide after the passing under the finish line at maams cross whether to be at the start line....:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭Alicano


    Enduro wrote: »
    If you completed the Conn ultra then you've run further than I did before I did my first 100k. You sound like you're well capable of giving it a go. The only way you'll know for sure is by giving it a go! Its not particularly vicious. Most people would consider doing a Marathon to be really hard, but you've done 3 in a row.

    What time did you complete the Conn ultra in? What's your marathon PB?


    Done Conn ultra in 5.45 and felt great for last 13 miles.

    At the moment my marathon pb is 3.28(connemara 06) and again thats in the comfort zone.im sure ive a 3.10-15 in me with a lil effort.but as i said im not a ' runner ' runner. i pick something,train for it like a beast,do it,and then relax for a couple of months.i wouldnt be out everyday like most on here.
    I love the idea of 100k and hours of 'me' time but am way off mileage to be ready by march.
    Think i could learn loads from yourself and the nicely titled ' ultraman ' though..any future advice would be much appreciated.

    For what its worth i say the ultra and 100 a week apart is totally doable!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Enduro


    Alicano,
    With those times I'd say your well capable of finishing 100K (Which is all you should aim to do in your first one). The only way to know for sure is to give it a go! If you think you'd be capable of doing enough training to do a 3:15 marathon on the day, then you're capable of doing a 100K on the day (at a slower pace than a 3:15 marathon pace, obviously enough).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭Mick Rice


    Obviously this is just a personal view, but doing two really long races that close together might not be a great idea. I wouldn't hesitate to run two marathons a week apart and have done that before myself but two fairly substantial ultras would be very tough going, particularly with the long one second. I suppose it comes back to what you want to achieve. If your sole objective is just to complete both courses, then it's obviously doable but if you want to perform well at one or both it's going to be a lot more difficult. The 100k can extract a very heavy price in the later miles from anyone who takes it lightly and to go into it with a hard 40 mile run only seven days previously would be brave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Hard Worker


    Just to bring this back into focus:
    Celtic Plate 100K started this morning at 8am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Hard Worker


    All the Irish looking OK so far. Enduro is even asking the spectators how they are getting on. The two Irish women have gone through 44K ( Helena ) and 42K ( Aisling ) respectively.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭lecheile


    All the Irish looking OK so far. Enduro is even asking the spectators how they are getting on. The two Irish women have gone through 44K ( Helena ) and 42K ( Aisling ) respectively.
    Thanks Hard Worker - I cant even imagine as to how difficult it must be in Salthill with all that wind!!!

    Is there realtime updates available anywhere? One of our guys running.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Hard Worker


    lecheile wrote: »

    Is there realtime updates available anywhere? One of our guys running.

    I'm just getting texts from the course. I'll be away in an hour, so I wont have final updates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭Hard Worker


    Just leaving for some football match now and this will be my last update - not much info:

    Thomas Maguire has 8 laps to go ( 16K ). He went through a few dodgy patches but is fine. Don't know his position.
    Helena Crossan has gone through 74K and Aisling Coppinger has gone through 70K, both very comfortable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Magnet


    Helena Crossan won for the women! Almost a lap ahead of no.2
    Open to correction but I think she did it in 8.10 :eek:
    Aisling was still smiling away but I had to get back to work then...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,411 ✭✭✭SUNGOD


    any results out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭baza1976


    web site says they should be out today but sign yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭lecheile


    Feedback from the race is that it was top class in terms of organisation and execution - not sure what is delaying the results - not as if there was a massive field.....the suspense if killing me!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Enduro


    I would say the delay in the results is because of the spectacularly good post-race party.

    What I can tell you is that Jez Bragg (Eng) won the race in a world class time of 6:58. Thomas McGuire was first Irishman home in about 7:32. I finished in 7:45, which was a PB.

    Helena was the Irish run of the day for sure, and won the Female race in about 8:10. This is the first time that the race wasn't won by an English girl. She ran strongly all day.

    England won the men's team competition, followed by the German #1 team. England also won the women's team competiton.

    Other highlights of the race were the fine debut runs at the distance by John O'Regan and Aisling Coppinger. Aisling ran steadily all day. John went out fast and slowed a bit towards the end, but still manged about 8:45ish I think.

    The gutsiest runs of the day were from the debut racers who kept going and finished even after ther road had to be re-opened for traffic, including Irish adventure racer Bob Boles, as he says himself probably the heaviest competitor, but still finished the distance in under 11:00.

    Organisation was superb. It was generally agreed that it was the best Anglo Celtic plate ever.

    Weather wasn't too bad compared to the days either side. A strong northerly wind, with a few showers, including one of hail/snow :eek:. But that was the best wind direction you could hope for, as it was coming in off the land and the building were providing shelter in places. The nature of the course layout also meant that it was 99% crosswind, much better than a headwind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭jeffontour


    Jez is a class act all right, has the record for my target race for the year and by all accounts is a gent also. Good to hear the day went well, be nice to see a few more of these type events this side of the water.

    What hurt more Enduro, the 100k or the after party?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭lecheile


    Enduro wrote: »
    I would say the delay in the results is because of the spectacularly good post-race party.

    What I can tell you is that Jez Bragg (Eng) won the race in a world class time of 6:58. Thomas McGuire was first Irishman home in about 7:32. I finished in 7:45, which was a PB.

    Helena was the Irish run of the day for sure, and won the Female race in about 8:10. This is the first time that the race wasn't won by an English girl. She ran strongly all day.

    England won the men's team competition, followed by the German #1 team. England also won the women's team competiton.

    Other highlights of the race were the fine debut runs at the distance by John O'Regan and Aisling Coppinger. Aisling ran steadily all day. John went out fast and slowed a bit towards the end, but still manged about 8:45ish I think.

    The gutsiest runs of the day were from the debut racers who kept going and finished even after ther road had to be re-opened for traffic, including Irish adventure racer Bob Boles, as he says himself probably the heaviest competitor, but still finished the distance in under 11:00.

    Organisation was superb. It was generally agreed that it was the best Anglo Celtic plate ever.

    Weather wasn't too bad compared to the days either side. A strong northerly wind, with a few showers, including one of hail/snow :eek:. But that was the best wind direction you could hope for, as it was coming in off the land and the building were providing shelter in places. The nature of the course layout also meant that it was 99% crosswind, much better than a headwind.
    Results are up guys......

    http://www.celtic100k.com/live/9.html

    Spoke with John O'Regan last night and he was gushing in his praise of the event and delighted with being the third Irish man home....He even suggested that I should do one!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭Peterx


    Well done to all the Irish finishers. Enduro, it always amazing me how you can step from 7km to 100km in a week. Well done!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭Slogger Jogger


    Fab running, well done.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Enduro


    jeffontour wrote: »
    Jez is a class act all right, has the record for my target race for the year and by all accounts is a gent also. Good to hear the day went well, be nice to see a few more of these type events this side of the water.

    What hurt more Enduro, the 100k or the after party?

    Oh the race hurt more for sure! The after race party was a blast for those few of us who lasted the entire duration of that endurance event. Where better than Galway for an after race party :D

    Yes, Jez is sound as a pound. He seems to be an all-round good guy. What is your target race?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,238 ✭✭✭Abhainn


    Well done Enduro on a great performance.
    That winning time of 6:58 is class and will give the event a great boost.
    Imagine 2.5 sub 3 hrs marathons back to back:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭spurscormac


    Called down to Salthill for a look while walking the dog on Saturday morning.
    Looked to be good weather for it, and the field was well strung out when I got there, about 45 minutes into the race.

    I have to admire those who took part, I think I'd slowly go crazy doing that many laps up and down the road.

    Congrats to all who finished, its sheer nuts!!!

    One final comment - it surprised me that there was just one bollard marking the turning point at the Blackrock pier end. I would have thought the bollards could have been arranged in a teardrop shape, to at least make it a more curved turn. Then again, I'll leave it to the experts, I'm sure there was a valid reason for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 859 ✭✭✭911sc


    Well done Enduro.
    I can't image doing something like this myself. Nothing to do with the 100km, but rather the 50 times 2km loops:) Did you not get dizzy at the end??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭GoHardOrGoHome


    Fair play Enduro and to John O'Regan as well who's also on Boards from time to time. Can't remember his Boards name though.

    7:45. That's unreal. 3h16 marathon pace? Incredible. Must have a look through those 10k splits.

    Who was the women who went flying through the first 20k and DNFed early? I might be unfair but without having done any investigation it seems like she went out too fast. 100k debutante?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭aburke


    Who was the women who went flying through the first 20k and DNFed early? I might be unfair but without having done any investigation it seems like she went out too fast. 100k debutante?

    I'm guessing it was the Norweigan.
    The additional individual entrants include Margrethe Logavken, one of the world's top female 100k runners. Margrete, a Norwegian, holds a PB of 7:43:27.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Enduro


    Yup, it was the Nowegian girl alright. You can see that in the splits breakdown.
    I can't image doing something like this myself. Nothing to do with the 100km, but rather the 50 times 2km loops Did you not get dizzy at the end??

    The course was basically long straight line runs with turns at either end, so no real danger of getting dizzy :D. 100K in 50 laps was actually a very useful layout. Its easy to calculate distance remaining, pace, etc with such a handy number to work with. Its unusual enough to get road ultras with such handy lap length. You do find youself thinking things like "20 laps left, great, nearly there now, time to start pushing hard to get home". Ultra running is very much a personal mind game.
    it surprised me that there was just one bollard marking the turning point at the Blackrock pier end. I would have thought the bollards could have been arranged in a teardrop shape, to at least make it a more curved turn. Then again, I'll leave it to the experts, I'm sure there was a valid reason for it.

    I don't know the actual reason, but I would guess that simplicity and accurate measuring would have playes a part. Cars still needed to be able to access the road under some circumstances, so that would also presumably have been a factor. The turn caused me less hassle than I thought it would. But then I was one of the few athletes approaching the turn from the right side of the road. That was because of the "racing line" leaving me on the right after a slight right turn about 200 metres back, and allowed me to do a more running turn than a stop-start turn. It surprised me how many runners didn't pay too much attention to getting the racing line where possible.
    That winning time of 6:58 is class and will give the event a great boost.
    Imagine 2.5 sub 3 hrs marathons back to back

    I think I heard Jez say that he did his first marathon in the race at about 2:43. Enough said!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭spurscormac


    Enduro wrote: »
    I don't know the actual reason, but I would guess that simplicity and accurate measuring would have playes a part. Cars still needed to be able to access the road under some circumstances, so that would also presumably have been a factor. The turn caused me less hassle than I thought it would. But then I was one of the few athletes approaching the turn from the right side of the road. That was because of the "racing line" leaving me on the right after a slight right turn about 200 metres back, and allowed me to do a more running turn than a stop-start turn. It surprised me how many runners didn't pay too much attention to getting the racing line where possible.

    1. I guessed that was one reason. I did see a delivery van having to stop at the turn to move a bollard so he could get off the course. I did my good deed for the day & put it back in place to stop traffic coming onto it.

    2. That was another thing that surprised me a little, that there was no racing line painted in blue along the route. I thought that for such a distance it would be there, maybe something to improve upon in the future.

    As someone who thinks 10k is a fair old distance, the whole thing sounds crazy to me. Suppose a few years down the line, I might be nuts enough to try one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭jeffontour


    Enduro wrote: »
    Yes, Jez is sound as a pound. He seems to be an all-round good guy. What is your target race?

    Westhighlandway race, 95 miles of fun in the scottish highlands. Dnfed last year with 60 miles done, will finish this year if i have 2 crawl backwards. Whats next on the horizon for u enduro?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Enduro


    The WHW looks like a great race alright. Would love to give it a go some time. Next on the horizon for me is the world 24 Hour running championship in Bergamo next month.
    That was another thing that surprised me a little, that there was no racing line painted in blue along the route. I thought that for such a distance it would be there, maybe something to improve upon in the future.

    Its hard enough to get the road closed for the race, nevermind getting it closed the day before so that you could paint a blue line down the road. No real need anyway. Its not exactly rocket science to find the racing line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭Slogger Jogger




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