And it gets even worse: Judge, Judy and Executioner

BaconZombie

Welcome to New Zealand were the Record Companies are Judge, Jury and Executioner.

"Next month, New Zealand is scheduled to implement Section 92 of the Copyright Amendment Act. The controversial act provides 'Guilt Upon Accusation,' which means that if a file-sharer is simply accused of copyright infringement he/she will be punished with summary Internet disconnection. Unlike most laws, this one has no appeal process and no punishment for false accusation, because they were removed after public consultation. The ISPs are up in arms and now artists are taking a stand for fair copyright."

http://torrentfreak.com/campaign-to-stop-file-sharers-being-guilty-upon-accusation-090105/

http://blog.theyworkforyou.co.nz/post/59243864/section-92a-cut-off-anyone-who-might-be-breaking

http://www.tcf.org.nz/news/01078523-35f5-41c4-b8bc-7ed0b4d07848.html

http://creativefreedom.org.nz/

biko

Finally someone is doing something about piracy.

phasers

Good, those god darned pirates have been taking our jobs and our women for too long

Turd Ferguson

biko wrote: »

Finally someone is doing something about piracy.

Yarghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :mad:

Cookie_Monster

So they can just claim you downloaded stuff with no proof and you conection gets cut off? That's mad Ted:eek:

How'd you find that out before RTDH:D

thelordofcheese

phasers wrote: »

Good, those god darned pirates have been taking our jobs and our women for too long

And the rum.

Cookie_Monster

thelordofcheese wrote: »

And the rum.

The rum's gone? Why is the rum always gone?

AnonoBoy

That'd be great though. Imagine if they brought that in here, you could ring their Hotline and get your mates disconnected if they pissed you off?

Brilliant!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Good - I might actually get some work done...

Run_to_da_hills

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

So they can just claim you downloaded stuff with no proof and you conection gets cut off? That's mad Ted:eek:

How'd you find that out before RTDH:D

Its like something that would come out of the UK, it won't work at all without regisrered administration. Nothing stopping the culprit using another PC. It just stops the offender opening his/her own ISP account.

Quazzie

I'm confused.. What did Judge Judy do??

Cookie_Monster

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Its like something that would come out of the UK, it won't work at all without regisrered administration. Nothing stopping the culprit using another PC. It just stops the offender opening his/her own ISP account.

But if, like most people, you only have 1 PC in your house and one connection...


The Hobbits are going to be pissed off anyway

Toiletroll

Lol... Hack your enemies wireless connections and put them off the interwebs permanently from home... Lol thats even better than a virus! Clever system!

Reminds me of the old one, scrape a box of match heads into a floppy disk. It burns!

Run_to_da_hills

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

But if, like most people, you only have 1 PC in your house and one connection...


The Hobbits are going to be pissed off anyway

Easy, the offender can hack into next doors wifi account (If it is insecure) or drive down the road and park outside some hotel and use a different IP setting on his laptop. It still wont stop the offender downloading. All it will do is bar the rest of his family who may be unaware of the crime. They tried drafting this law into France last year.

javaboy

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Easy, the offender can hack into next doors wifi account (If it is insecure) or drive down the road and park outside some hotel and use a different IP setting on his laptop.

I'm surprised at you of all people thinking that there's such thing as secure wifi.

<_<

>_>

It still wont stop the offender downloading. All it will do is bar the rest of his family who may be unaware of the crime. They tried drafting this law into France last year.

It might not stop the offender downloading, but if they have to go to the bother of finding a local hotel with free wifi or hackining a neighbour's wifi, a lot of them won't bother. Not to mention the fact that the hotel/neighbour's wifi would get shut down for the same reason anyway.

BaconZombie

The point is you do not have to hack into somebody else's account, some of the letter sent to the ISP's only list a external IP address which is normally dynamic {I know people have either a static or one that does not change that often but that not the point} so anybody could to a victim with no way of getting there name cleared.

Also they have a VERY bad record for sending take-down notices, DMCA and legal letter claim copyright of stuff that they have not rights or ownership of.

Toiletroll wrote: »

Lol... Hack your enemies wireless connections and put them off the interwebs permanently from home... Lol thats even better than a virus! Clever system!

Reminds me of the old one, scrape a box of match heads into a floppy disk. It burns!

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Easy, the offender can hack into next doors wifi account (If it is insecure) or drive down the road and park outside some hotel and use a different IP setting on his laptop. It still wont stop the offender downloading. All it will do is bar the rest of his family who may be unaware of the crime. They tried drafting this law into France last year.

\grabs eye patch

Yargh they've been giving us pirates a bad name for too long

rojerdandry

What's the deal with piracy and enforcement in Ireland? I got a call from BT saying they had a complaint from a Hollywood studio that I was distributing one of their movies... I hadn't heard anything about this sort of thing happening in Ireland.

BattyInNZ

Feck! I'm in NZ - there's gonna be trouble ahead.....:mad:

jimmycrackcorm

Would never work here with all those eircon routers that still use the default ssid. I drank all the rum over xmas

MizzLolly

Judge Judy?

Holsten

Wow.. hate that.

Well, I'm off to download some more games/music/movies.

The_B_Man

lol what if u went down to the local internet cafe and start downloading MP3s? Would the cafe go out of business? Suppose if u run an internet cafe, you could go around all ur competitors and download MP3s on their PCs so as to get a monopoly in the city!

AlmightyCushion

What's to stop someone accusing these guys or the governments offices of downloading pirated material thus bringing their internet connection down. The irony would be absolutely superb.

Kold

Shame on the people who don't get the Hot Fuzz quote.

Run_to_da_hills

The_B_Man wrote: »

lol what if u went down to the local internet café and start downloading MP3s? Would the café go out of business? Suppose if u run an Internet café, you could go around all ur competitors and download MP3s on their PCs so as to get a monopoly in the city!

If the law got strict an Internet cafe could easily apply filters to prevent torrent downloading. I know one guy that got sacked from his job at an Internet café for downloading torrents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AzpByR3MvI

The guy

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Would never work here with all those eircon routers that still use the default ssid. I drank all the rum over xmas

You're right, considering how easily WEP routers with eircom are to break into, a court case could be held against eircom blaming and since the firmware doesn't really store any decent network logs they could use that in a court case.

GhostInTheRuins

This is her courtroom, the rulings are final

Overheal

There was this place in Oregon and it was called Salem...

watna

Oh dear....

... that's not good for us boardsies in NZ

/acts defiant
/puts jolly roger flag up over the house

Gaspode

What's a torrent?

Overheal

deswalsh wrote: »

What's a torrent?

You're funny.

just in case: a torrent is a peer to peer filesharing protocol. The image provided by wikipedia explains the concept well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_(protocol)