New MP57's - McGuirks €499

JCDUB

Picked myself up a lovely brand new set of MP57's today with S300 shafts, lookin forward to gettin out there tomorrow and giving them a bash.

Was at the range with them today and they seemed a little bit longer than my current R300 shafted Titleist 775s, am sure it will take a bit of adjustment though...

Good value at €499, had vouchers worth €375 so happy days.

Anyone else out there been spending over the festive period??

copacetic

nice clubs, nice price!

Par72

JCDUB wrote: »

Picked myself up a lovely brand new set of MP57's today with S300 shafts, lookin forward to gettin out there tomorrow and giving them a bash.

Was at the range with them today and they seemed a little bit longer than my current R300 shafted Titleist 775s, am sure it will take a bit of adjustment though...

Good value at €499, had vouchers worth €375 so happy days.

Anyone else out there been spending over the festive period??

Sounds like a bargain. What made you decide you needed stiffer shafts?

JCDUB

Par72 wrote: »

Sounds like a bargain. What made you decide you needed stiffer shafts?

Had swing analysis done a while ago in ProFit in Blackrock because I had a feeling the regular was not spot on for me.

(Lost some distance on changeover to my last Titleists, bad decision, just took regular without looking into it properly at the time.)
Basically I was right, regular shafts were a bit weak for my swing speed and leading to inconsistencies in ball striking.

So hopefully that's all behind me now and I can look forward to a nice 2009 of good and enjoyable golf:D

WaldenByThoreua

Serious deal,especially with the vouchers...

ShriekingSheet

savage looking iron, good buy.

Adiaga 2

Yeah they're beauties. Great buy JCDUB.

zillmere

I got a set just before xmas. They are awesome clubs. The best I have ever hit.

bogmanfan

I have the predecessor, the MP-60s. Fantastic clubs

Nuri Sahin

I'll be out to McGuriks this weekend to finally get them

Been a long time coming for me to change my irons.

Aesop

I've always liked the mizuno MP range of irons. I play off ~16 however and anytime I have talked to shop assistants they have talked me out of them telling me really they are for the better golfers (I guess <10 handicap).

My irons are the best part of my game however and I have hit a few at the range and hit them pretty well. They are certainly not as forgiving as larger cavity backs but I like the feel I get of a solid hit and feel I can move the ball better with them.

Long story/question short am I mad for even looking at these clubs?

bogmanfan

Although I don't have an official handicap, I would be off around 16 as well (usually scoring between 88 and 91). I got the MP-60s around a year ago and love them. Like you, my iron play is good, with driving and putting letting me down. What the shop guy said was that these irons would last me years and wouldn't need upgrading as I improve (hopefully:))

ShriekingSheet

Aesop wrote: »

I've always liked the mizuno MP range of irons. I play off ~16 however and anytime I have talked to shop assistants they have talked me out of them telling me really they are for the better golfers (I guess <10 handicap).

My irons are the best part of my game however and I have hit a few at the range and hit them pretty well. They are certainly not as forgiving as larger cavity backs but I like the feel I get of a solid hit and feel I can move the ball better with them.

Long story/question short am I mad for even looking at these clubs?

This is something I've thought long and hard about in the past when buying irons. It's a tricky area when you're considering yourself or advising others because when you boil it down, it can easily cause offence when someone says "frankly, you're not good enough to hit those..."
In my experience I've met one or two shop workers/low-handicap-advice-givers who's attitude is something like - "I'm awesome and therefore will play with miniture, uber-forged blades. You're not so you need these graphite-shafted shovels...". Ridiculous.

But the best advice I can give you is using myself as an example. I'm off 5 and bought the below irons. Tour Burners are mid-size with medium off-set. I don't believe I'd have much trouble hitting MP57's, in fact I tried MP60s at the time of deciding. And while the good shots are good, if you believe what Bob Rotella says, golf is a game of mistakes. It's more about your bad shots than your good ones. And IMO a miss with a my irons will end up closer to the target than a miss with a thin Mizuno iron. Better still that TaylorMade have gone and made an iron that is bulky and forgiving but looks and sits like very neatly.

Sure, I'm forgoing the thrill that you only get from a club like the MPs, peeling one out of the middle from 180yards, low boring flight and just turning over right-to-left. And the more bladey clubs are better around the greens...
But I made the decision that I enjoy scoring well more than hitting the odd amazing shot. And it's not like I can't hit the odd tour-calibre shot with the TaylorMades. I also use Titleist Vokey wedges around the green anyway.

Anyway, that was back in June. I cleaned up all summer. Very, very happy with my decision. It's up to everyone to decide for themselves. Damien McGrane uses a combo-set that includes some very cunky long irons. I remember seeing Noel Fox (then +3 h'cap Irish International) using a bulky set of TopFlite irons, and he was a links player!!

Some people just like the look of blades and I wouldn't criticise them at all. You have to take into account strong personal preferences like that. But for me, I weighed up my own pros and cons and there's what I came up with.

JCDUB

Very good post ShriekingSheet, and exactly the advice I would have given.

At the end of the day it's a personal decision, and there's only so much outside influence which will affect you in your decision.

I mean if you go around ten different pro shops and golf superstores you're quite likely to get ten totally different sets of advice, due to the fact that certain shops make higher margins on certain club brands, and obviously more than likely they have never even seen you swing a club never mind analysed your swing properly.

When I was in McGuirks I was asking if they had a demo club I could hit but no joy, they said they're arranging bays in the Kinsealy Grange Driving Range and sending demo clubs up there, but he also said this was supposed to be done last November so I wouldn't hold my breath.

It's a pity as they are badly needed. As it happens I borrowed a friends clubs and hit them first but I wouldn't have bought without hitting them, no matter what way you look at it, €500 is a lot to spend on clubs that may be wrong for you.

Back to the query on the MP's though, on the Mizuno website it says that MP-57's are for low to mid handicappers, so at 16 I'd say you qualify. Then again Mizuno will hardly lessen the potential market to which they can sell by saying their clubs are for semi-pros only are they?
Either way, it comes back to personal preference, if you hit them and like them I say go for it.

Happy golfing.

soundsham

Aesop wrote: »

I've always liked the mizuno MP range of irons. I play off ~16 however and anytime I have talked to shop assistants they have talked me out of them telling me really they are for the better golfers (I guess <10 handicap).

My irons are the best part of my game however and I have hit a few at the range and hit them pretty well. They are certainly not as forgiving as larger cavity backs but I like the feel I get of a solid hit and feel I can move the ball better with them.

Long story/question short am I mad for even looking at these clubs?

not mad mental!!! move away from the clubs.

stick to a game improvement club(CAVITY BACKED) till you get to 10h'cap
at least

take it from someone who made the error!
I made the mistake of buying a beautiful set of semi-blade mp-32 a few years ago cause I liked the look of them, and they broke my heart in the long irons.
I was playing off 11 at the time and the problem is you have a much smaller sweet spot on the club face so the feedback from a hit is way better, this great when you hit a good shot but any shot slightly off may still fly close enough to the target but will feel horrible.

personally I shifted these and went to the pro series callaways which have a less chunky head and no offset so i found them easier to work the ball a little as my game improved and they did help me drop another 3-4 shots,

now the mp-57 would appeal to me as the feel off a good hit in a forged club is lovely and also the muscle back is a bit forgiving

but its a lot better to have clubs in your bag that look ok or crap but do a job,than looking good but do not work, nothing gets you out more than hitting good shots and playing well in my opinion,so pick clubs to suit your h'cap till you improve

DonkeyPokerTour

Best advise I've gotten is to go out and play with the irons, hit them from the tee, hit them from the rough, hit them from the fairway. Get a good feel for them.

Looks dont matter, if looks were all that mattered in a golf club surely everyone would be playing something like these:



One thing though, you say you hit your irons very well so what makes you want to change them? Surely you should be concentrating on your Driver/Putter if thats whats causing the problems??

Nuri Sahin

Aesop wrote: »

I've always liked the mizuno MP range of irons. I play off ~16 however and anytime I have talked to shop assistants they have talked me out of them telling me really they are for the better golfers (I guess <10 handicap).

My irons are the best part of my game however and I have hit a few at the range and hit them pretty well. They are certainly not as forgiving as larger cavity backs but I like the feel I get of a solid hit and feel I can move the ball better with them.

Long story/question short am I mad for even looking at these clubs?

Just to cut it short as the posts above me sum it up my opinion down to a tee :P

Mate as said above you should really be looking at upgrading clubs in other areas of your game by the sounds of it. Having worked in 2 major golf shops here in Dublin as well as a pro shop currently I'd tell you the exact same thing in regards to your handicap and the Mizuno Irons the thread is about. Anyway, good luck to you if you do or do not go for them.

Aesop

DonkeyPokerTour wrote: »

One thing though, you say you hit your irons very well so what makes you want to change them? Surely you should be concentrating on your Driver/Putter if thats whats causing the problems??

Necessity! I have a set of Spaldings for ~10 yrs and they are literally falling apart.

zillmere

Being told the clubs are to good for you if you are off 16 is crap. I would have been off around 16 as well and I think the MP-57's have already taken shots off.

Swinging something that you really enjoy playing with counts for a lot.

**I have the 52's not the 57's, my mistake

Adiaga 2

A more forgiving alternative to the MP57s are the MP52s:



These came out towards the end of last year. They have a the deeper pocket cavity in the long irons making them that bit more forgiving than any of the other MP irons. The top line, offset and clubface size is pretty much the same the other MP models.

I doubt you'd get them for less than €600 in Ireland at the moment though.

DonkeyPokerTour

Aesop wrote: »

Necessity! I have a set of Spaldings for ~10 yrs and they are literally falling apart.

Point Taken! LOL

harmankardon

will be seriously thinking about about investing in these beauties.....

joanmul

I've been reading all the posts above and you have me worried! I am going to the US (south California) in March and planned to buy a set of irons + 3 & 5 woods (I like my driver - G5) if the price was right. I have a full set of Yonex Super ADX 400 graphite hybrid for about 6 years but I bought them 2nd hand and I think they might have been 1 or 2 years old then. I'm playing golf 10 years, have a 27 hc, and my 09 res. is to spend 1 hr a week on my short game practice (mostly pitches). I play golf 3 times a week in the summer, sometimes 4-5 times and I'm not a spring chicken. I've been trying to find out what clubs are not suitable for my hc and fairly slow swing speed without any luck. The clubs I thought I'd look for out there were, Callaway X20, Yonex Super ADX 200, or Taylormade R7 CGB. I have a voucher for McGuirks that I thought I'd use for them to custom fit me but my husband says, rightly, that they'll only do that for what clubs they have. I haven't checked what they have but I think they don't have the Yonex or the Taylormade for women. I'd appreciate your expert opinions out there!

golfjunkie

You should give GolfVision in Swords a ring. They custom fit and supply clubs made to your spec. I recently had my swing speed and ball speed checked and they ordered me a new set of Callaways based on the feed back. I picked them up this week and absoultly love them!

They have all the latest brands and models for demo so you can try out the clubs before you buy them.

As they are independent they won't try and push any particular barnd on you but recommed what style of club is best suited to your swing.

Hope this helps!