GRAPHICS HELP PLEASE !!

hallstatt

Anyone know where i can buy an all in one video capture card and graphics card? Thanks

Biggins

Is it something like this your looking for?

http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=321741

sink

What you need is an ATi All-in-Wonder.. But I don't know who sells them.

Biggins

sink wrote: »

What you need is an ATi All-in-Wonder.. But I don't know who sells them.

Haven't heard of the All-in-one-wonder in ages.
I used to have one installed myself. They were great cards.
Ebay is your best bet for those cards: http://cgi.ebay.ie/All-In-Wonder-128-All-in-one-TV-Video-and-Graphics-New_W0QQitemZ190277384005QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCC_Video_TV_Cards?hash=item190277384005&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177

ttm

Might help if you told us your senario and what hardware you already have.

What is the source of the video you want to capture?

hallstatt

Biggins wrote: »

Haven't heard of the All-in-one-wonder in ages.
I used to have one installed myself. They were great cards.
Ebay is your best bet for those cards: http://cgi.ebay.ie/All-In-Wonder-128-All-in-one-TV-Video-and-Graphics-New_W0QQitemZ190277384005QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCC_Video_TV_Cards?hash=item190277384005&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177

Have they been about long ? How about the graphics on them, compare to a high end graphics card ?

hallstatt

ttm wrote: »

Might help if you told us your senario and what hardware you already have.

What is the source of the video you want to capture?

Younger kid bro's birthday comming up. Im not into pc's but I heard him mentioning these before and droppin the hint:D
I see there about 200 euro but im wondering how are graphics compared with a good graphics card ?
thanks

ttm

We still don't know what slot you are going to be plugging this into? The ATI All-in-Wonder would only work in an AGP slot (think they made a PCI version) and you could have some version of PCI Express in which case an All-in-Wonder wouldn't be any use to you. Hence my request for some info on the hardware you have.

hallstatt

ttm wrote: »

We still don't know what slot you are going to be plugging this into? The ATI All-in-Wonder would only work in an AGP slot (think they made a PCI version) and you could have some version of PCI Express in which case an All-in-Wonder wouldn't be any use to you. Hence my request for some info on the hardware you have.

Yea theres pci and pcie on the mobo I think the mobo is rampage 2 or something. sorry i dont know much else

hallstatt

ttm wrote: »

We still don't know what slot you are going to be plugging this into? The ATI All-in-Wonder would only work in an AGP slot (think they made a PCI version) and you could have some version of PCI Express in which case an All-in-Wonder wouldn't be any use to you. Hence my request for some info on the hardware you have.

Why is it no good for pcie? im really sorry but my knownledge of pc's is seriously limited to basics.

Biggins

hallstatt wrote: »

Have they been about long ? How about the graphics on them, compare to a high end graphics card ?

The All in one wonder is now at least ten+ year old.
They used the PCI slot. This means that any graphics data that was being send through the CPU had to wait in line along with everything else on the system. This lead to not the best speeds.
AGP (the graphics data is sent direct to the CPU and is prioritised) is your best bet for a good card now. Failing that, go for a PCI express card.

If you want to learn a bit more start here: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/graphics-card.htm/printable

hallstatt

Biggins wrote: »

The All in one wonder is now at least ten+ year old.
They used the PCI slot. This means that any graphics data that was being send through the CPU had to wait in line along with everything else on the system. This lead to not fast speeds. AGP is your best bet for a good card now. Failing that, go for a PCI express card.

If you want to learn a bit more start here: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/graphics-card.htm/printable

Thanks for the info biggins.:) Oh by the way that site komplett is great im sure i can find something for him there. Is it just a website or do you know if they have a regular store too?

Kinetic^

What do you plan on capturing? Not all cards will capture everything.

Biggins

hallstatt wrote: »

Thanks for the info biggins.:) Oh by the way that site komplett is great im sure i can find something for him there. Is it just a website or do you know if they have a regular store too?

There is a number of good sites. A search here on the pc section will list a good few but others here will their own recommendations also.

Try here too: http://www.dabs.ie for example.

If your looking for an actual store try a Maplin store or PcWorld as dedicated electronic stores go - its a start.

Bring the specs of your system if possible (if you can't find the specs, let us know here what type of machine it is and we too can look it up for you) to a shop if thats your choice. Depending on the wattage of your power unit box at the back of your pc, will help decide the card you can get, along with the info on available internal slots free for you (on your system) to use.

TerrorFirmer

The AIW line is not ten years old, you can get fairly decent pci-express all in wonder cards. I had an X1900XT AIW.

Not a brilliant modern gaming card but it copes well enough with the likes of Bioshock and Call of Duty 4 and can be gotten really cheap on ebay. Never used mine for anything other then games though.

http://ati.amd.com/products/RadeonX1900/aiwx1900/index.html

sink

Biggins wrote: »

The All in one wonder is now at least ten+ year old.
They used the PCI slot. This means that any graphics data that was being send through the CPU had to wait in line along with everything else on the system. This lead to not the best speeds.
AGP (the graphics data is sent direct to the CPU and is prioritised) is your best bet for a good card now. Failing that, go for a PCI express card.

If you want to learn a bit more start here: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/graphics-card.htm/printable

ATi released an new version of the All-in-wonder a few months back but I haven't seen any reviews or it on sale anywhere so I don't know how good it is.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/26/amd-smells-a-comeback-with-ati-all-in-wonder-hd/

Biggins

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

The AIW line is not ten years old...

Its at least that when the line of cards started. It was AIW was one of the very first cards I started out with.

The good news is that they are still indeed on the go.

Example card site:
http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonx800/aiwx800xt/index.html
or here:
http://ati.pricegrabber.com/search_attrib.php/page_id=5/vendor=ati/

will give you a help.

TerrorFirmer

Biggins wrote: »

Its at least that when the line of cards started. It was AIW was one of the very first cards I started out with.

The good news is that they are still indeed on the go.

Example card site:
http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonx800/aiwx800xt/index.html
or here:
http://ati.pricegrabber.com/search_attrib.php/page_id=5/vendor=ati/

will give you a help.

Sorry I know the line itself is that old but while I'm sure it's not what you meant, your posts sort of suggested that the AIW line was long dead...:)

I didn't realise they released one after the X1900 AIW line, looking around it's based on the 3650 core so...basically, it's not very good as a gaming card, considering the retail price, if you can find one, is probably quite high. I'm not entirely clued on capture/tv/etc cards to be honest, but it'd probably work out far better to get a dedicated video card for 100 and a seperate capture card. 99 euro would get you a video card 3-4x faster then a 3650, for example. Older X1900 AIW cards would be generally similar to the 3650 performance wise and cost about 50 dollars on ebay, though the newer AIW HD would obviously be more efficient and support more features.

Overheal

Biggins wrote: »

Haven't heard of the All-in-one-wonder in ages.
I used to have one installed myself. They were great cards.
Ebay is your best bet for those cards: http://cgi.ebay.ie/All-In-Wonder-128-All-in-one-TV-Video-and-Graphics-New_W0QQitemZ190277384005QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCC_Video_TV_Cards?hash=item190277384005&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177

Why dont they make these things anymore??? They sound lovely :eek:

TerrorFirmer

Overheal wrote: »

Why dont they make these things anymore??? They sound lovely :eek:

They do. See above.