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is it possible to do a Driveabout with the gardai?

  • 31-12-2008 10:07pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭


    I'm recently back from near washington DC. the city of rockville in maryland, anyway long story short got to spend the day with one of rockvilles finest, speeding around in the passenger seat, eating donuts, listening to the cop i was with telling his war stories and enjoying the buzz as we chased speeders with the lights and noise, great fun and really interesting to see how american cops get the job done. I was just wondering if its possible to do a rideabout with the gardai?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭ScubaDave


    In short, no! They are fairly strict upon it. Most ive even seen is people allowed into the station for a look.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    I've had two people do ride alongs

    One was just for one day and the other was for a week

    Having said that, both people were well connected, one of whom was a foreign police officer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 822 ✭✭✭Mutz


    I'd love to bring Judges on a ride along someday! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    Mutz wrote: »
    I'd love to bring Judges on a ride along someday! :rolleyes:

    there was a female judge in dublin that did ride alongs on the occasional night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭deadwood


    pa990 wrote: »
    there was a female judge in dublin that did ride alongs on the occasional night
    Now, THAT, was a party!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    pa990 wrote: »
    there was a female judge in dublin that did ride alongs on the occasional night

    Does she like fire engines?? :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭Zatman


    :D:D:D:D:D

    I think it would be funny.

    You can just imagine the Gardai like tour guides it would be hilarious
    e.g. this is where we confiscated a large amount of drugs and over there is where the local gangster lives"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    You cannot do legitimate ride alongs. On occasion I have seen and brought visiting police officers in the car but its not sanctioned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    We used to have transition year students in the car with us for a couple of days (they spent a week in around the station). It is a great idea to do it but unfortunately can be dangerous too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 Com1186


    not covered if in crash......only gardai and prisoners can to a ride in a squad car. and i include students as gardai (and unfortunatley reserves)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 481 ✭✭JonAnderton


    Com1186 wrote: »
    not covered if in crash......only gardai and prisoners can to a ride in a squad car. and i include students as gardai (and unfortunatley reserves)
    Harsh mate...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭kerry4sam


    Com1186 wrote: »
    not covered if in crash......only gardai and prisoners can to a ride in a squad car. and i include students as gardai (and unfortunatley reserves)

    why do you think "unfortunately reserves" ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭flyton5


    Com1186 wrote: »
    not covered if in crash......only gardai and prisoners can to a ride in a squad car. and i include students as gardai (and unfortunatley reserves)

    Problem with reserves eh? Care to elaborate?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    Relax lads I doubt the poster is a member.

    And to clarify, civilians can be carried in a patrol car if they are connected to an offence such as victims and also if you have a belief that its the in interests of the persons health or safety.

    Perfectly allowed to carry an old lady, etc if they are in poor health and its snowing, etc in the interests of their health and personal safety. This also goes for someone thats been injured through no criminal act and in need of medical attention but always weigh up the situation before doing so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭daithip


    What about a stranded attractive female on a Saturday night after all the taxies have finished, I guess this would fall into the, concern for her welfare bracket :P;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭lehanemore


    Com1186 wrote: »
    (and unfortunatley reserves)

    what do you mean by this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    lehanemore wrote: »
    what do you mean by this?
    I think any answer and further posts to this question would derail the thread altogether so please stick with the topic at hand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Johnny Utah


    According to a post on the legal discussion forum recently, it seems that students on the UCC Criminal Justice Masters are given the opportunity to accompany Gardai in the patrol car.

    Here's the course here (it doesn't give much info, just mentions placements):

    http://www.ucc.ie/en/CKL15/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Whitewater-AGS


    According to a post on the legal discussion forum recently, it seems that students on the UCC Criminal Justice Masters are given the opportunity to accompany Gardai in the patrol car.

    Here's the course here (it doesn't give much info, just mentions placements):

    http://www.ucc.ie/en/CKL15/

    Just had a quick look at that link, it doesn't actually say that they are given placements with the Gardai. Rather they offer placements which "enable students to explore the perspectives of the Gardaí (police), victim organisations, probation service, prisons and the courts (judiciary, prosecutors and defence)."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭Johnny Utah


    Just had a quick look at that link, it doesn't actually say that they are given placements with the Gardai. Rather they offer placements which "enable students to explore the perspectives of the Gardaí (police), victim organisations, probation service, prisons and the courts (judiciary, prosecutors and defence)."



    There's not much info in that link. I saw the following post in legal discussion by someone who is on the course:

    "Im currently doing the criminal justice masters in ucc.

    It is really good if your really interested in Criminal Law/Criminal Procedure and anything related to criminal law. There is a strong emphasis on a combination of the black letter law with practical aspects of criminal law as you observe lots of criminal trials from the District Court, Circuit Criminal Court and Central Criminal Court. There are also other placements involved in the Masters such as visits to a range of prisons in this jurisdiction, as well as children court visits, gardai ridealongs and other placements.

    The workload is really heavy but its still worth it if you are interested in a criminal law masters."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Im doing driving lessons at the moment with the 911 Driving School chain - off duty cops as teachers. Its KINDA like a driveabout I guess though we probably wont get to bust anybody :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    I wouldnt be putting too much faith in the comments made on the legal section. Have to remember, a ride along would involve sitting in a car with a prisoner sitting directlty behind or beside you as well as all the other risks.

    If they wont let TV crews I cant imagine letting a binch of students. Its more similar to 4th year students who spend a week in the station or college as work placement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    Eru wrote: »
    a binch of students.

    That's a bit harsh!:pac:

    Tbh, I wouldn't feel comfortable on a 'driveabout' as I'd feel like I was getting in the way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    eroo wrote: »
    Tbh, I wouldn't feel comfortable on a 'driveabout' as I'd feel like I was getting in the way.

    Doesnt stop you posting here! :D Boom boom


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    Eru wrote: »
    Doesnt stop you posting here! :D Boom boom

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    Eru wrote: »
    I wouldnt be putting too much faith in the comments made on the legal section. Have to remember, a ride along would involve sitting in a car with a prisoner sitting directlty behind or beside you as well as all the other risks.

    If they wont let TV crews I cant imagine letting a binch of students. Its more similar to 4th year students who spend a week in the station or college as work placement.

    TBH, a student in college might seem like a plain cloths officer if the right clothing was worn. As opposed to a film crew with a camera and cameras all over the car.

    On the subject of filming it would not be in the best interests of a prisoner to attack a filmer, considering it all on tape.

    Just my 1 cent, the goverment took my other 1 cent away in tax


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭deadwood


    msg11 wrote: »
    Just my 1 cent, the goverment took my other 1 cent away in tax
    Permission to use to great applause in the pub?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭Eru


    msg11 wrote: »
    TBH, a student in college might seem like a plain cloths officer if the right clothing was worn. As opposed to a film crew with a camera and cameras all over the car.

    On the subject of filming it would not be in the best interests of a prisoner to attack a filmer, considering it all on tape.

    Just my 1 cent, the goverment took my other 1 cent away in tax

    prisoners...intelligent....own best interests. Something not right there. ;)

    If the state wants to bring in I wont object, doesnt bother me in the slightest but it would result in claims even if they signed waivers. Imagine the papers if the state didnt pay someone that got seriously injured in a crash on the grounds that they signed a waiver?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Mate of mine got me a spin home in a squad car, a fellow officer drove. Would this be considered a ridealong? Pleaded with your man to fire up the sirens..he didn't :(


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