Taxi surcharge on NYE?

Saskia

Anyone know if the chancers are putting a few euro extra on tonight?

Michellenman

Please God not.

Not only for the sake of all our pockets but for our piece of mind tomorrow when we'll no doubt be barraged with a slew of threads complaining about it.

Jeapy

They can't really seeing as the meter has to be on. Im sure the hackneys will though!

Biggins

Could be wrong but after 12, aren't they allowed to charge fare and a half?
I could and probably, am wrong.

Outside of Dublin, in my home town, one firm I use never turns the meters on!

Jeapy

Oh wait, from
http://www.taxireg.ie/consumer/for-consumers.html
Read the small print about tarriff C being used tonight.

So it looks like its a fixed initial charge of 4.45 and then 1.77 per km thereafter or 0.63 per min tonight. (usual at evenings/weekends/bank hols is 1.35 per km or 0.48 per min)

Thats from 8pm this evening til 8am tomorrow.

shinzon

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/no-happy-new-year-for-revellers-as-taxi-fares-pushed-up-by-50pc-1586247.html



TAKING a taxi on New Year's Eve will now cost almost 50pc more than usual -- and it will cost 22pc more to take a taxi home at night under new rates introduced by the Commission for Taxi Regulation.

The Commission has imposed a special Christmas and New Year premium rate for the first time this year.

A 20km journey taken during a normal weekday, based on an initial flat fare of €4.10 and a charge of €1.03 per kilometre for the first 14km and €1.35 a kilometre for the subsequent six kilometres would cost €26.62. The same journey taken on New Year's Day before 8pm will be charged at the standard public holiday rate, coming to €34.17.

However, the same journey taken between 8pm on New Year's Eve and 8am on New Year's Day when the new so-called "golden time" rates are in effect will cost a total of €39.85 -- an increase of €13.23, or almost 50pc.

The same journey taken on a normal weeknight between 8pm and 8am would cost €32.55 based on the new premium rate -- an increase of €5.93, or more than 22pc.

Michael Kilcoyne, chairman of the Consumers' Association of Ireland (CAI), said the new Christmas and New Year charges -- on top of the 8.3pc fare hike imposed five weeks earlier -- cannot be justified.

Excessive

"I accept the principle that they're entitled to something extra but it's excessive, particularly in the middle of a recession," he told the Irish Independent last night.

The absence of public transportation means that consumers are left with no choice but to either drive or pay the high fares, he said.

"It's unreasonable there's that kind of a hike. I don't think you can justify it," he said.

Taxi Commissioner Kathleen Doyle insisted that the new fares were imposed following public consultation last April.

She claimed the new rate structure was imposed to act as an incentive to get more taxi drivers on the road to address a severe shortage of drivers during the holiday period.

She denied that customers were being 'gouged' because of the lack of alternative public transport services.

"It's in line with the economics out there," she told the Irish Independent last night. "It's got nothing to do with raising prices during a recession."

She said the new holiday rates are the maximum fares a driver can charge and claimed that many taxi drivers can and do offer discounts on their fares.

"A maximum fares order means that's the maximum someone can charge. But drivers can offer discounts and many do," she said.

But Pat Claffey, co-owner of Blue Cabs, based in Dublin, said that while taxi drivers believe it's only reasonable that they should be compensated for working over the holiday period as other workers are, "at the end of the day it's supply and demand".

But the new "golden time" rates aren't incentive enough to get many taxi drivers to work this New Year, he added.

He added that anyone hoping to get a taxi at New Year would have to book ahead to secure one, for which another €2 fee will apply.

He also questioned the wisdom of imposing the rate increase at the current time.

"I don't know the rationale why it was put forward this year. I'm not quite sure where it came from.

"It is substantial, there's no doubt about that," he said, adding "consumers may very well vote with their feet".

But he added that the taxi industry shouldn't be to blame for the lack of alternative public transportation.


I suggest getting hackneys where available folks otherwise the above charges will be applied

shin

Berty

Tell the taxi driver you want to pay him 66% less on account of his fuel costing 66% less. See what he says then.

lost marbles

taxi fares will be 22% dearer from 8pm tonight .not what the indo was saying [their stats are going on a normal weekday tariff ]
the rate is all calculated ON the meter .
so if your normal fare is 10e expect to pay another 2e
a few chancers do try and tell people its fare plus a half [ hacks ]
the best way round this is to ask how much the fare will be and if quoted way over then dont use it .
all fares SHOULD BE METERED

JohnCleary

I'm walking the 13 miles to the house party :pac:

TPD

Up in Donegal, they're doubling the price after 12. Shower of cnuts!

Berty

All is true, annoying and will never change.

BUT DO NOT get behind the wheel of your car with drink in you. :cool:

Varkov

Only get behind the wheel of your car with drink in you, if you dont think you'll get caught.

phasers

My dad's a taxi driver and thinks it's the same price as a normal weeknight... if you guys see a green people carrier take advantage :pac:

If Abrakababra can stick up their prices after midnight sure why not the taxis :rolleyes:

Fighting Irish

Saskia wrote: »

Anyone know if the chancers are putting a few euro extra on tonight?

I'm not a taxi driver but if i was i would charge extra as well. If anyone works NYE or Xmas day they are usually paid extra, why shouldn't taxi drivers?

My (almost) local is getting my business purely because of this. I'm not going to go to town, pay 20 quid in somewhere, then wait for about 2 hours only to pay another 20 getting home.

Anyone know what time busses are running till btw?

Fighting Irish

Berty wrote: »

Tell the taxi driver you want to pay him 66% less on account of his fuel costing 66% less. See what he says then.

Tell your boss you want a pay decrease since we're in a recession, see what he says

sdanseo

Varkov wrote: »

Only get behind the wheel of your car with drink in you, if you dont think you'll get caught.

Shut up and grow a brain. Even as a joke there's gonna be some twat who says "ah what the hell" and ends up upside down in a ditch or worse, causes someone else to.

DO NOT drink and drive, ever. Even if you've "only had a sup".

c0rk3r

Well if i was to work tonight id get triple pay and i reckon most others would get that too or double or even time and a half. Dont see why taxi drivers should be any different.

D-Generate

c0rk3r wrote: »

Well if i was to work tonight id get triple pay and i reckon most others would get that too or double or even time and a half. Dont see why taxi drivers should be any different.

Ah yes but you see they are a shower of cúnts and well you are eh....

Kintarō Hattori

hellboy99 wrote: »

If Abrakababra can stick up their prices after midnight sure why not the taxis :rolleyes:

Really, they do that?

Fighting Irish wrote: »

If anyone works NYE or Xmas day they are usually paid extra, why shouldn't taxi drivers?

I can assure you if I had to work either of those days the company I work for would not pay extra.

Varkov

sdonn_1 wrote: »

Shut up and grow a brain. Even as a joke there's gonna be some twat who says "ah what the hell" and ends up upside down in a ditch or worse, causes someone else to.

DO NOT drink and drive, ever. Even if you've "only had a sup".

One or two drinks is fine, depends on the person. Just cause a few people get absolulty blathered doesnt mean you cant a have a drink and drive home.

Karoma

Varkov banned for so many reasons, this is just one more to the list.
Sdonn_1 infracted - abuse will not be tolerated.

towel401

the constant price hikes means its almost worth getting blathered and then driving home

but really the price hikes are only there because over the past 100 years taxi drivers have left people off a few cents off their fare and now they are feeling bitter about it and want to collect 100 years worth of cents

Degsy

Just got a taxi home..town to finglas and if it did cost an extra 50 cent it was worth it..Dublin is getting messy..scraps breaking out all over the place.

sdanseo

Karoma wrote: »

Varkov banned for so many reasons, this is just one more to the list.
Sdonn_1 infracted - abuse will not be tolerated.

Fair enough, point taken and apologies. Just one of those things that "grinds my gears". :pac:

OT: Happy New Year, all.

hellboy99

hellboy99 wrote: »

If Abrakababra can stick up their prices after midnight

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

Really, they do that?

They do indeed, they call it an after midnight/late night service charge, businesses here will think of/do anything to get an extra buck.

Professey Chin

phasers wrote: »

My dad's a taxi driver and thinks it's the same price as a normal weeknight... if you guys see a green people carrier take advantage :pac:

Take advantage? Is he that easy? :pac:

Hermy

phasers wrote: »

My dad's a taxi driver and thinks it's the same price as a normal weeknight... if you guys see a green people carrier take advantage :pac:

Taxi driver doesn't need to know what day it is - the meter knows all.

Mint Sauce

Fighting Irish wrote: »

I'm not a taxi driver but if i was i would charge extra as well. If anyone works NYE or Xmas day they are usually paid extra, why shouldn't taxi drivers?

extra compared to what, any xmas day, new years day i have worked in the past, the most i got was double pay, the same as i would have got on a sunday

surely the same for the taxi drivers then, rates on new years the same as sundays, or any other unsocialable hours

Blush_01

Surely if you choose your own hours, regardless of profession, then you don't get compensation for working unsociable hours?

The idea behind extra pay on Sundays or Bank Holidays used to be that it was compensation for working unsociable hours because you DIDN'T have the option of not working said hours.

Nobody's suggesting prostitutes get to increase their charges by 50% on NYE.

blahblah06

good oul Saskia at it again with this thing about cab drivers. if you have any questions about cab drivers read the taxi regulator site like your were told before. unreal

blahblah06

ALSO TO EVERYONE ELSE. IF U SIMPLY READ THE TARIFF STICKERS.

THE TARIFF IS 1.77 A KM COMPARED TO 1.35 A KM AT THE NORMAL TIME ON A NORMAL NIGHT. THATS NOT EVEN TIME AND A HALF IF IM RIGHT?

IF TAXI MEN LIKE MYSELF WORK THE SPECIAL NIGHTS. CRIMBO NIGHT ETC ETC SURELY USE AGREE BRINGING YOURSELVES HOME IS WORTH THE EXTRA FEW CENTS ON THE JOURNEY.

I am sick of people complaining about cab drivers. Its simple if you dont wanna pay for a cab home. drive home drunk and i hope you get caught either that or walk.

Dont forget when we work these nights were leaving our love ones at home and that can be a very lonely time for any taxi man that needs to make a living.

Just chill on the taxi drivers lads. its getting crazy.


http://www.taxireg.ie/consumer/for-consumers.html

Blush_01

Then don't go out on NYE. It really is that simple.

Surely on NYE you're more likely to make money than most other nights of the year if you drive a cab.

I'm usually pretty sympathetic towards cabbies, but in the past few months I've had my change withheld more times than not. If I want to give you my change, I will. If I want to tip you, I will. Do not assume it's yours, I'm already paying you more than enough to take me from A to B.

blahblah06

thats fine blush but to be fare if certain cab drivers do it get there number and report them you normally get ur full fare refunded in due course but dont tarnish all of us cab drivers with the same brush thats all im saying

OPENROAD

Blush_01 wrote: »

but in the past few months I've had my change withheld more times than not.

How do you mean? They have refused to give you your change

Tchaikovsky

Ugh, another taxi driver thread.......

















.......:D

Blush_01

OPENROAD wrote: »

How do you mean? They have refused to give you your change

Until I've asked for it, yes. Usually it's not a large amount, between 50c and €5, but it's my decision to give that to a taxi driver as a tip IF I feel it's warranted.

The funny thing is, I'd usually give them whatever the difference between my fare and what I'm paying with is, so they could be looking at €20 for a €15 fare for example, as long as it's my decision.

Blahblah, it's a regular occurrence. I take a taxi on wet mornings to work as there's no public transport, and since September I have started making sure I have exact change, because I was so sick of it. I hate feeling petty asking for a few euro in change, but it's not their money to keep. Perhaps it's just the area I live in.

OPENROAD

Blush_01 wrote: »

I have started making sure I have exact change,

I do the exact same thing

CantGetNoSleep

Fighting Irish wrote: »

I'm not a taxi driver but if i was i would charge extra as well. If anyone works NYE or Xmas day they are usually paid extra, why shouldn't taxi drivers?

Because they are cnuts

Spook_ie

irish-stew wrote: »

extra compared to what, any xmas day, new years day i have worked in the past, the most i got was double pay, the same as i would have got on a sunday

surely the same for the taxi drivers then, rates on new years the same as sundays, or any other unsocialable hours

Would you have not also received a day off in liue, most companies I worked for as a PAYE employee paid overtime rates ( the lowest I ever got was time and a half ) and a day off in liue for Xmas or Stephen's Day..

Your entitlement to public holidays is set out in the Organisation of Working Time Act 1997. Most employees are entitled to paid leave on public holidays. One exception is part-time employees who have not worked for their employer at least 40 hours in total in the 5 weeks before the public holiday.

Employees who qualify will be entitled to either the public holiday off as paid leave or one of the following alternatives:

A paid day off within a month of the public holiday
An additional day of annual leave
An additional day's pay
The nearest church holiday to the public holiday as a paid day off
The Organisation of Working Time Act provides that you may ask your employer at least 21 days before a public holiday, which of the alternatives will apply. If your employer fails to respond at least 14 days before the public holiday, you are entitled to take the actual public holiday as a paid day off.

Interestingly though...did you know as a PAYE employee, if you are ill on a public holiday, you are entitled to recieve a day off in compensation, I assume you would need a doctors' note though...

Sick leave on a public holiday
If you are a full time worker on sick leave during a public holiday, you have an entitlement to time off work for the public holiday you missed. If you are a part-time worker on sick leave during a public holiday, you would be entitled to time off work for the public holiday, provided you had worked for your employer for at least 40 hours in the previous five-week period.

You are not entitled to public holiday benefits if you have been off work for more than 26 weeks due to an ordinary illness or accident, or for more than 52 weeks due to an occupational accident.

Also just as a bye....any other self employed person I know, would be entitled to charge what they like for providing a service on Xmas day, just try getting a plumber or electrician!!!:cool:

Spook_ie

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

Because they are cnuts

Yeah, love you as well.....

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Only problem I ever had with a taxi driver is that he ran over my foot after I gave him a load of change. He was pissed off. Never had my change held either. Taxi drivers rule, bus drivers are asshats.

Spook_ie

Blush_01 wrote: »

Surely if you choose your own hours, regardless of profession, then you don't get compensation for working unsociable hours?

The idea behind extra pay on Sundays or Bank Holidays used to be that it was compensation for working unsociable hours because you DIDN'T have the option of not working said hours.

Nobody's suggesting prostitutes get to increase their charges by 50% on NYE.

Yeah but if you were after a prostitute on NYE and they were busier than normal, they'd be charging more...it's called market economics

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Spook_ie wrote: »

Yeah but if you were after a prostitute on NYE and they were busier than normal, they'd be charging more...it's called market economics

Some people just don't understand spook.

There are many options available to everyone out there. Some include not going out, getting another form of transport or getting another person to drive you around.

You are not forced to pay the extra fair, the fare for the journey is stated prior to you getting into the taxi. I really don't see the problem. There are plenty more worthwile things to bitch about tbh.

randylonghorn

I honestly don't have a problem with cabbies getting a bit extra for NYE, the reality is they don't have to be out and if it's not worth their while why should they be?

Got a cab home from a house-party last night (NYE), very short wait after calling, guy was friendly and pleasant even at 4 in the morning, even though one of the girls with me was talking rubbish constantly and quite loudly as she was fairly merry. Fare didn't strike me as much over the norm.

Karoma

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

Because they are cnuts

1. Do not post in this thread again. You've proven incapable of debating the matter even on an AH level.
2. Tone it down in any other post you make.