inductive wind force generator

VNP

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Shinyeon_Energy_Research_Center

Are these mechanisims worth invesing In for use in Ireland or is the cost of manufacture (and possibly maintainance) prohibitive? I couldnt find any information about the reliability in a real situation, but it seems they are being produced for comercial markets. Perhaps this topic is old hat and has been discussed to death by this stage, i have never seen it in papers or tv in ireland yet (Dec 2008) why so??

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=DPIGoqV2r-8

Capt'n Midnight

tldr

snake oil , we don't need better generators or motors , we just need a better way of storing generated electricity


Electrical generators/ motors with efficiencies of over 90% have been around since the 19th century. The main improvement since then is they are now smaller.

Today many huge dump trucks and locomotives are diesel electric, because converting mechanical power to electrical and back again to mechanical using motors at the wheels is more efficient than a transferring that energy via a gearbox.

The only advantages of internal combustion engines over 19th century electrical ones is that we still haven't figured out a better way of storing electrical power.

VNP

True the "mag" eingine is not that novel, there must be a lot of similar devices in the pipeline and in use already from large manufacturers or plant big enough not to require the refinement to reduce the size down to that of a few hundred hp diesel.
On the the generator cost, if the price of manufacture was less than that of a wind turbine and the output more reliable (if smaller), eg running 24/7 or not requiring to shut down in high winds etc, surely this option would be as viable as modern wind farms for investment, as it would not need as much strategic placement requiring the large transport and road building costs, or create associated problems eg bog bursts and landscaping issues.With industrial peat harvesting rapidly approaching its final days in Ireland, and the supposed problems of increasing cost of fossil fuel to supply esb plants you woul think devices such as the inductive generator could be developed in some of the midland plants, as they have vast tracts of land where wind farms wouldnt work.
They do say nothing sells like snake oil in a recession too;).

Capt'n Midnight

wind farms make money
if you could make significantly cheaper wind generators they would sell like the proverbial hot cakes. Also remember maintainance costs are a significant part of the cost so some systems if they had zero capital cost could wind up being expensive.

look up Tesla's turbine - you can make them from CD's or hard drive platters
but for some reason they haven't caught on

derry

With Fossil fuel prices dropping the future for alternitive wind etc. isnt good


Thats the way the oil and gas companies make it .The prices spike for a few years and the Alternitives look good .Then for 10 years they bomb the prices of oil and gas mega low to get rid of alternitives like wind power

Unless governments make alternitives work with tax breaks etc they often get wiped out before they get to full power.


Me I like wind power for ROI s we are the second most windy place in the world .Malvinas is no 1 but thats all sheep

The big probelm is to store the the energy or to have enough of the wind power units over a large region so that some are always in the wind .

Derry