Triathlon Ireland 2009 Calander

monaghanbiffo

Calander for 2009 i up.
Working on my Scedule now!!!!

Bambaata

wahoo! now to determien what i can get off work for!

MCOS

monaghanbiffo wrote: »

Calander for 2009 i up.
Working on my Scedule now!!!!

Yep, me too! I see 2 long distance events on it though?


Link to schedule
http://www.triathlonireland.com/event_calendar/EventCalendar.html

pgibbo

Whatever about the calendar being posted, gaining entry to some of the races will be the main challenge!

Hoping to get 4 or 5 in next year - maybe even the Lost Sheep if everything goes well.

Funkyzeit

pgibbo wrote: »

Whatever about the calendar being posted, gaining entry to some of the races will be the main challenge!

Hoping to get 4 or 5 in next year - maybe even the Lost Sheep if everything goes well.

Very similar plans myself hopefully culminating in Lost Sheep.

Anyone know which races get booked out quickly? I know Kenmare and Kinsale do from last year. What about some of the others like Kilkee etc?

MCOS

Hi Guys,

I heard Kinsale is very popular and also is Kilkee. Being Kilkee's 25th anniversary this entry will be snapped up quickly.

I have a similar plan to you guys, its my first time doing Tris but I'm hoping to do about 2-3 Olympic, 2-3 sprints and main goal then being the Lost Sheep!

Just planning out my calender this week

tunney

pgibbo wrote: »

Whatever about the calendar being posted, gaining entry to some of the races will be the main challenge!

Hoping to get 4 or 5 in next year - maybe even the Lost Sheep if everything goes well.

Entry is actually quite easy for most races. This year only two sold out
* Kilkee - excellent race, great fun
* Kinsale - some people like to go on the beer in kinsale

Other than that no races sold out.

Given the increased calendar and the potential impact of the economic slowdown I can see tough times for race organisers ahead, especially those that have a history of not delivering on safety, value for money and fairness. I can think of one of those long distance races that might be in trouble.

tunney

MCOS wrote: »

Hi Guys,

I heard Kinsale is very popular and also is Kilkee. Being Kilkee's 25th anniversary this entry will be snapped up quickly.

I have a similar plan to you guys, its my first time doing Tris but I'm hoping to do about 2-3 Olympic, 2-3 sprints and main goal then being the Lost Sheep!

Just planning out my calender this week

MCOS that is too many races. You cannot perform in that many races. By all means do them but don't expect decent results. Do as many races as you want but be aware you should pick two races and have them as your peaks. Any other races are training events at best. I know some on this board are all for participation etc etc etc, but if you're not at the very least challenging yourself to perform whats the point? If I was you I'd look to Joey Hannon, kilkee and then pick an olympic (ballyronan or dublin) for the back of the season. Organise your training and racing to peak at those races. I believe as well, given my limited knowledge of you, that Kenmare is not a great idea for you. Leave it until your second or third season. This I say from experience.

Bambaata

I thought Valentia sold out, no?

hunnymonster

tunney wrote: »

... but if you're not at the very least challenging yourself to perform whats the point? ....

eh, just how many times do I have to say the point is to have some fun, meet some great people, get some exercise, visit some cool places, .......

I totally agree that you can only peak a couple of times a year though.

hunnymonster

I'm probably not doing any races in Ireland this year. Will probably go visit Kilkee as my inlaws have a holiday home there and will help out at Kinsale and the Lost sheep and whatever races we're involved in ref/TD'ing. Hopefully I'll get to meet a few of you at these.

911sc

hunnymonster wrote: »

the point is to have some fun, meet some great people, get some exercise, visit some cool places, .......

and challenge yourself, considering that a challenge is a relative definition to one's desire.
That sums up why i am doing what i am doing....not to puke after each training session and get a free ambulance ride after the finish line.

pgibbo

I agree with challenging yourself. This year my challenge was to do 2 sprint triathlons as I only learned to swim this time last year.

Next year I hope to do 2 olympic distance triathlons and maybe the Lost Sheep. We'll see how it goes.

Saying that, there's nothing like a good tough training session either! :cool:

tribesman

Is it likely that more events will be added to this at a later date? There are a some events missing compared to last years calendar. Is it possible that they will be added later?

Bruce11

The new calendar looks well, like the icons with the elements for each race showing whether its a tri, aqauthon or duathlon.

Good to see the icons to the right of the page with the province of the location for the race.

Calendar does look slightly smaller but I'm sure other races will be added.

MCOS

tunney wrote: »

MCOS that is too many races. You cannot perform in that many races. By all means do them but don't expect decent results. Do as many races as you want but be aware you should pick two races and have them as your peaks. Any other races are training events at best. I know some on this board are all for participation etc etc etc, but if you're not at the very least challenging yourself to perform whats the point? If I was you I'd look to Joey Hannon, kilkee and then pick an olympic (ballyronan or dublin) for the back of the season. Organise your training and racing to peak at those races. I believe as well, given my limited knowledge of you, that Kenmare is not a great idea for you. Leave it until your second or third season. This I say from experience.

I have plenty of respect for your advise Tunney or anyone who has experienced the challenges I set myself. I don't intend to have a hop off everything I enter, however my sporting background is Rugby and Rowing so maybe I can't help it, I'm competitive! As I stated in my fitness log I have 3 main goals, I'll do a few other events too but these are the main ones

do a sub 40 min 10k (in the great ireland run)
Finish Kilkee
Finish the Lost Sheep

Note 'finish' not 'win' or 'place'

Would you like to place a small wager that I don't achieve these goals ?!

Cully

whoa... Eireman is 3.8km swim, 180km cycle, and 42km run... I think I need to lie down.

tunney

MCOS wrote: »

I have plenty of respect for your advise Tunney or anyone who has experienced the challenges I set myself. I don't intend to have a hop off everything I enter, however my sporting background is Rugby and Rowing so maybe I can't help it, I'm competitive! As I stated in my fitness log I have 3 main goals, I'll do a few other events too but these are the main ones

do a sub 40 min 10k (in the great ireland run)
Finish Kilkee
Finish the Lost Sheep

Note 'finish' not 'win' or 'place'

Would you like to place a small wager that I don't achieve these goals ?!

I'm not saying that you can't finish the Lost Sheep. I just feel that if you move up a distance but haven't put the miles in the bank that you don't enjoy the racing. I've heard so many people say "Never doing HIM distance again, its too hard". Its not they were just underprepared.

In addition I've found that over the years those that try to do everything in the first season are usually gone from the sport the following year.

Izoard

Well, given holidays and other commitments, my provisional for '09 now looks like....

March: Connemara Marathon
May: Tri Athy
June: Wicklow 200
July: Beast of the East
August: Caroline Kearney
August: Eireman (full)
August: Dublin (if still alive)
Sept: SportingProud/Brittas Bay

hunnymonster

Cully wrote: »

whoa... Eireman is 3.8km swim, 180km cycle, and 42km run... I think I need to lie down.

these are the standard iron distance, distances.

Funkyzeit

hunnymonster wrote: »

these are the standard iron distance, distances.

Doesn't make them any less frightening for us mere mortals Hunny !!

Planning on doing the below but with Funkyzeit Jr due in April it may but a spanner in some of the plans:

Joey Hannon 3rd May Olympic

Wicklow 200 9th June

Hell of West 27th June Olympic

Loug Ine Triathlon 12th JUl Olympic

Kinsale 25th Jul Sprint

Kenmare Little Bo Peep Olympic

Sean Kelly TOur of Waterford Late Aug TBC

and depending on above date either

Eirmean Half IM 30 Aug or Kenamre Lost SHeep Half IM 12 Sep

hunnymonster

sorry, wasn't meant like that!

Where do you train in Cork Funkyzeit?

MCOS

Busy one but I'm up for it

Feb/Mar Limerick Duathlons
Mar 01 Adare 10k maybe
Mar 15 Ballycotton 10mile if I get in
Mar 28 Plassey 10k
Apr 05 Great Ireland Run 10k
May03 Joey Hannon Olympic Tri
May16 Valentia Island Sprint Tri
May 30 TriAthy Olympic Tri
Jun 27 Kilkee Hell of the West Olympic Tri
Jul 18 Triathlone Sprint Tri
Jul 26 or 27 Beast of East or Galway Olympic Tri
Aug 16 Caroline Kearney Olympic Tri
Sep 12 Kenmare Lost Sheep 1/2IM Tri
Oct 26 Dublin City Marathon

tunney

MCOS wrote: »

Busy one but I'm up for it

Feb/Mar Limerick Duathlons
Mar 01 Adare 10k maybe
Mar 15 Ballycotton 10mile if I get in
Mar 28 Plassey 10k
Apr 05 Great Ireland Run 10k
May03 Joey Hannon Olympic Tri
May16 Valentia Island Sprint Tri
May 30 TriAthy Olympic Tri
Jun 27 Kilkee Hell of the West Olympic Tri
Jul 18 Triathlone Sprint Tri
Jul 26 or 27 Beast of East or Galway Olympic Tri
Aug 16 Caroline Kearney Olympic Tri
Sep 12 Kenmare Lost Sheep 1/2IM Tri
Oct 26 Dublin City Marathon

just wondering when you're intending to train?

MCOS

tunney wrote: »

just wondering when you're intending to train?

I'll be fit enough by May for the May events and have one A goal ticked off on the way. The focus for may will be on OW swimming, build for june to Kilkee which is the 2nd A goal. Enjoy the July events and build again for the main event, Kenmare...

Kind of like rowing. The winter and spring events kept the training interesting. You were in shape by the time Regatta season hit in April, peak for Varsities and again for the home regatta and Peak again for National Champs. You trained through summer regattas. Granted Triathlon is a completely different sport, however I am confident in my ability to get through my little list of events.

You seem awfully worried that I am biting off more than I can chew?

Funkyzeit

hunnymonster wrote: »

sorry, wasn't meant like that!

Where do you train in Cork Funkyzeit?

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I know it wasn't....

Living in Carrigaline so all my running is around here, swimming in the local pool but will definitely get out to do some sandycove QW swims (by far my weakest discipline).

What about yourself?

interested

tunney wrote: »

I'm not saying that you can't finish the Lost Sheep. I just feel that if you move up a distance but haven't put the miles in the bank that you don't enjoy the racing. I've heard so many people say "Never doing HIM distance again, its too hard". Its not they were just underprepared.

In addition I've found that over the years those that try to do everything in the first season are usually gone from the sport the following year.

+1 with Tunny on the point about what it takes to enjoy middle distance events.


From my very limited personal experience (3rd year now), in order
year1: sprint, olympic distance
year2: sprint, olympic distance (8 weeks gap or so) HIM, olympic
The plan:
year3: sprint, olympic distance, (10 weeks gap or so) 1*IM, potentially one HIM or olympic

The gaps include things like aquathlons or ROK bike in addition to a training plan. But I wont taper, rest up for any of the events - Ill pick something like the ROK as my planned Sunday long spin or something ...

Personally, I found preparation for HIM very different than olympic distance - I enjoy training and took the time between Athy 08 and Groomsport half to prepare. For example, I did a couple of cycling events and did two legs of an olympic distance purely as training for the HIM. It worked for me and I enjoyed finishing the HIM. It wasnt easy but I enjoyed it.

With all the best intentions in the world getting through olympic distance events as part of a training plan would be difficult / impossible for me.
They take their toll and seriously impact on my ability to continue or start a new 6 week block of training.

I spent alot of time in a pool years ago and this approach worked for me in terms of peaking/tapering at the right time for distance events. I tried and failed with aplomb when attempting to compete in events very close together.
It is tempting to enter more and Ill probably get around to doing this in the future when Ive obtained what I want to this year - but for me I really only want / need to peak twice a year for what I want to do.

Have a good christmas guys

hunnymonster

Funkyzeit wrote: »

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I know it wasn't....

Living in Carrigaline so all my running is around here, swimming in the local pool but will definitely get out to do some sandycove QW swims (by far my weakest discipline).

What about yourself?

We're living in Cobh and members of the Mardyke and Silversprings so that's where I tend to be.
Cycles are mostly
Cobh-Dungarvan direction,
Mardyke-Killarney
Cobh-Kinsale (summer only when I can swim and get a lift home afterwards)
Running
Home-City
around Cobh Island (it's biddy hilly!)
Mardyke - killarney direction (though not that far)

tunney

MCOS wrote: »

I'll be fit enough by May for the May events and have one A goal ticked off on the way. The focus for may will be on OW swimming, build for june to Kilkee which is the 2nd A goal. Enjoy the July events and build again for the main event, Kenmare...

Kind of like rowing. The winter and spring events kept the training interesting. You were in shape by the time Regatta season hit in April, peak for Varsities and again for the home regatta and Peak again for National Champs. You trained through summer regattas. Granted Triathlon is a completely different sport, however I am confident in my ability to get through my little list of events.

You seem awfully worried that I am biting off more than I can chew?

You seem to intrepret my advice to you as a challenge. By all means do what you will and what you think you can handle.

MCOS

Not at all Tunney, I appreciate the advice as you have already been there and done that, and I'm certainly very interested to hear about your IM journey. Perhaps I'm taking an approach that is out of the norm for a newbie, but that says a lot about my nature already doesn't it! I didn't want to set a challenge that I know I can do. I wanted one that I know I will have to stretch myself and discipline myself to do. We live so much of our lives in a safe zone... no harm in jumping into the fire once in a while

4 months ago a friend of mine told me she swam 3k before she came into work... I looked at her in disbelief !

tunney

MCOS wrote: »

Not at all Tunney, I appreciate the advice as you have already been there and done that, and I'm certainly very interested to hear about your IM journey. Perhaps I'm taking an approach that is out of the norm for a newbie, but that says a lot about my nature already doesn't it! I didn't want to set a challenge that I know I can do. I wanted one that I know I will have to stretch myself and discipline myself to do. We live so much of our lives in a safe zone... no harm in jumping into the fire once in a while

4 months ago a friend of mine told me she swam 3k before she came into work... I looked at her in disbelief !

Thats the thing its not out of the norm. Its the absolute typical newbie approach. Nothing special, nothing different. The standard approach that most newbies take. Anyways - enjoy.

Genghis

I think tunney is more than correct in his assertion that you cannot expect to peak in every race, and that you should aim for 2, maybe 3 'peak races'. I have seen many people end up injured and dejected from racing competitively practically every weekend during the summer, as I have done myself.

Part of the problem is that anyone interested in doing well in the national series needs to race 6 times, and do well 6 times in a relatively short space of time.

The events this year for NS have yet to be clarified, but last year there was an 18 week window from 17 May to 18 September in which to find six races; that would be one race every 3 weeks if the races were spread across the season, but with so many races in July and August, it is not unusual to see the same faces at the same races every other weekend.

Perhaps TI will reduce the number of races back to 5 this year, or even 'three best count'?