over in after hours again

E@gle.

Wonder what the cyclists stance is on thishttp://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055440585

mikemac

That's in motors forum.

Tread carefully, the OP is very defensive

short circuit

I think its a fair complaint from the OP.

Its not as if he jumped out to run into the shop ... As things stand with no hard shoulders within town, when you breakdown, you have to move to the side of the road ... and in this case it happens to be a cycle lane.

If there was no cycle lane, I am sure the cyclist would have seen the car ... and if the cyclist had been driving a car, I am more than sure he would have passed safely on the right.

Why on hell would you get your head down and hammer unless you are doing the etape on closed roads. Don't we have enough risks as it is.

And what I liked was that it didn't take long for someone to post "road tax" ... I think we should have a bet on such threads to see how quickly road tax comes up.... ... I think if boards can implement this feature, it would be a winner

CheGuedara

short circuit wrote: »

And what I liked was that it didn't take long for someone to post "road tax" ... I think we should have a bet on such threads to see how quickly road tax comes up.... ... I think if boards can implement this feature, it would be a winner

+1!!!!

311

That is probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard ,thank god it wasn't an old woman he ploughed into.

short circuit

It's going downhill very quickly in the motors forum ... get your popcorn ... and let's get a few more cyclists posting in there ...

Looking forward to an entertaining afternoon ... I had planned a ride later on ... wondering which might be better ...

The ride is just winning at this stage ..

mikemac

Did my best folks but the OP wore me down

Now your turn!

short circuit

Had to post here to make sure that my 50th post was in the cycling forum ... see you all later .. back to the motors forum ..

I thought all the OP there wanted was some sympathy .. and someone to say "All cyclists are born idiots, deserve no respect and should not be seen on the road" ... where did it all go wrong.

kenmc

!YAWN! bored now.

Funkyzeit

There seems to be some fairly militant cyclists out there

Sounsds like he's having a dig at you CheGuedara...:D

xz

Phew!! hard work over there:D
I sympathise with the man for what happened but his subsequent "blinkered" attitude makes it hard to agree with him, seemed to be a cyclist bashing thread from the start. Even though the cyclist in question was completely at fault

311

It's not right to argue the points of cyclists in the thread mentioned.
It only makes cyclists look one and the same I think.

CheGuedara

Funkyzeit wrote: »

There seems to be some fairly militant cyclists out there

Sounsds like he's having a dig at you CheGuedara...:D

And I showed restraint, all I did was a +1

I think that these those types of posts start off innocuous as a more-a-less genuine question/query/story (maybe not in todays however).

Then the 'road tax' raises its head, then the rediculous 'cyclists should stay on cycle lanes' and 'cyclist insurance' quote raises it's head, a flurry of people agree who are diametrically opposed* to reason and will never see the cyclists POV.

Then I'll maybe wade in with a big stick.

I thought I was being quite good today - maybe it should be my new years resolution - only one smack down of the ignorant per week....

Luckily a mod (rubadub) has just saved me the trouble today...

*just incase people might assume I'm equally entrenched in my views I do agree that the cyclist in this instance was in the wrong. In the scheme of defensive cycling, observation & awareness are the key. He was obviously showing neither. I don't know how that guy didn't see a stationary car with the flashers on - regardless of where it was stopped

DirkVoodoo

I like the way he can't understand why the cyclist (who was in the wrong) regarded the cycle lane as for bikes only and yet he is now giving out about bikes using the road which is for cars only???

Anyway, if he had filled his car up when the little orange light came on, this whole thing would have been avoided. A case of two idiots me thinks.

blorg

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

I like the way he can't understand why the cyclist (who was in the wrong) regarded the cycle lane as for bikes only and yet he is now giving out about bikes using the road which is for cars only???

I was thinking this myself, of all the threads to bring up "cyclists should get off the road and use cycle lanes" surely the one that you start with how you were parked in a cycle lane is not the place to do it.

Bit of a disconnect going on there.

Lumen

The OP on that thread seems to me to be a fairly reasonable and typical car user whose opinion is biased by lack of cycling experience.

The original point was that an idiot cyclist struck a stationary vehicle then compunded his idiocy by claiming it wasn't his fault.

Any pro-cycling viewpoints posted suffer from the proximity problem - it seems like you're defending the stupid cyclist, rather than debating the finer points of cycle lane usage, road tax etc.

Thread should be closed for off-topicness IMO.

dub_skav

blorg wrote: »

I was thinking this myself, of all the threads to bring up "cyclists should get off the road and use cycle lanes" surely the one that you start with how you were parked in a cycle lane is not the place to do it.

Bit of a disconnect going on there.

I'm glad somebody else spotted this, he wasn't called on iy any way harshly enough. By his own logic the cyclist should have gotten off his bike and walked over the car with his bike on his shoulder

WicklowRacer

Lumen wrote: »

The original point was that an idiot cyclist struck a stationary vehicle then compunded his idiocy by claiming it wasn't his fault.

+1.

If you're stupid enough to cycle into a parked car, you're too stupid to be on a bike.

Chips Lovell

Lumen wrote: »

Any pro-cycling viewpoints posted suffer from the proximity problem - it seems like you're defending the stupid cyclist, rather than debating the finer points of cycle lane usage, road tax etc.

This is a very good point. There's a time and a place for these debates and that wasn't it.

Cabaal

boring, cyclist was stupid he needs to get over it, motorist was also thick for running out of petrol