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simple geometry problem

  • 12-12-2008 12:47am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭


    but is there a simple answer?

    geometryqri8.png

    |AC| = |AB|
    CD bisects <ACB
    |AD| + |CD| = |BC|
    Find θ


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭MathsManiac


    Would 90 degrees be simple enough?
    ;)

    EDIT: ignore this post (see below!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Tau


    I tried this last night, eventually using coordinate geometry and got a huge big equation is cos(theta) which had to have a root somewhere between 60 and 180 degrees. Which you could solve using a computer if you wanted to.

    MathManiac, I've been trying to verify your answer, but I can't - could you show how you prove thats it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    Two similar problems if anyone's interested:
    Triangle2.gif
    Triangle1.gif
    Solve each for X. The latter is tougher (that's a hint).
    from: http://thinkzone.wlonk.com/MathFun/Triangle.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭MathsManiac


    Tau wrote: »
    I tried this last night, eventually using coordinate geometry and got a huge big equation is cos(theta) which had to have a root somewhere between 60 and 180 degrees. Which you could solve using a computer if you wanted to.

    MathManiac, I've been trying to verify your answer, but I can't - could you show how you prove thats it?

    Sorry, just realised I misread the question (thought it said |AD| + |CA| = |BC|).

    I'll try again, (but this time I reckon it's about 100 degrees!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    Sean_K wrote: »
    Two similar problems if anyone's interested:
    Triangle2.gif
    Triangle1.gif
    Solve each for X. The latter is tougher (that's a hint).
    from: http://thinkzone.wlonk.com/MathFun/Triangle.htm
    this one looks really easy but since it wasn't really easy, it is probably pretty hard.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,595 ✭✭✭MathsManiac


    The answer (to the original problem) is 100 degrees alright. It's not too bad with trigonometry, but I'm sure there should be a way of doing it without.

    Anyway, here's a trig solution:
    Let <ACD = t (i.e., the dot).
    Then <CBA = 2t, so <CDA=3t and <CAD=180-4t

    Taking |AC| to be 1 unit, the sine rule in triangle ACD gives:
    |AD| = sin(t) / sin(3t) and |CD| = sin(4t) / sin (3t)

    Also, taking E as the midpoint of [CB], triangle ACE gives:
    |CE| = cost(2t), so |CB| = 2cos(2t)

    We're given that |AD| + |CD| = |BC|, which we can now write as:
    [sin(t) / sin (3t)] + [sin(4t) / sin(3t)] = 2cos(2t)

    Multiply across by sin(3t) to get:
    sin(t) + sin(4t) = 2cos(2t)sin(3t)

    Apply a formula to the right-hand side to get:
    sin(t) + sin(4t) = sin(5t) + sin (t)

    Hence, sin(4t)=sin(5t)
    4t + 5t = 180
    t = 20

    theta = 180 - 4t = 100.

    Anyone find a non-trig solution?


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