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The Apprentice (IRL) Post Show Discussion

  • 10-12-2008 11:46am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭


    I was going to start a new thread but probably no point ? (Mods?)


    There has been a lot of critique on all of these threads since the show was announced some 6 months ago and no doubt some people have changed their opinions on the show having seen it over the past few weeks but I was curious to know what people thought of it now that its over.

    Try and forget about measuring it up against the UK & US versions, both are very different so theres no point harping on about them! Try and answer the questions independently based on what you saw on the Irish version :)

    I have my own opinions on the below, anybody who read my posts throughout the course of the series probably know what I thought of it anyway ;)


    1 - What did you think of the show overall?

    2 - Did Cullen do a good job as the hiring executive?

    3 - Could you take Cullen seriously?

    4 - Would you bring him back for another series?

    5 - Would you watch this if they were to bring it back next year?

    6 - What would you change for the next series?

    7 - Would you be tempted to go on the show next time?

    8 - What did you make of Bill's two "advisors"?

    9 - Did the constant product placement pi$$ you off?

    10 - Would you actually have hired any of the contestants in your place of work?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    1 - What did you think of the show overall?

    There were some genuine entertaining moments but overall it dragged on a bit long.


    2 - Did Cullen do a good job as the hiring executive?

    Well that's neither here nor there. People don't get hired to jobs like this, he was playing the part of an executive I thought. In that part he was inconsistence and hypocritcal.


    3 - Could you take Cullen seriously?

    No. One week someone's fired for breaking the rules , next week he berrates someone for not breaking the law and a winning team was disqualified on a rubbish technicality.


    4 - Would you bring him back for another series?

    Nope. I'd like to see someone with some more charisma or character. Someone like Duncan Banantyne.


    5 - Would you watch this if they were to bring it back next year?

    Nope, doubt it. Maybe if I was bored but I wouldn't make a habit of it.


    6 - What would you change for the next series?

    I don't know, I'm not a production executive. The show is a glorified advertisement for various products. If there was some way of making it without the ads and adding some integrity or actual professional realism then I'd interested.


    7 - Would you be tempted to go on the show next time?

    No.


    8 - What did you make of Bill's two "advisors"?

    Scary. One has a face of melted plastic and the other is an emotionless robot. Look at the UK Dragon's Den to see what type of millionaires or business people make for good TV.



    9 - Did the constant product placement pi$$ you off?

    Yep. And I'd probably not buy any of them. Wouldn't be surprised if Garmin paid someone a few extra bob for such a notoriously difficult/impossible task.



    10 - Would you actually have hired any of the contestants in your place of work?

    I'm an average basic worker myself not an employer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭BolBill


    1 - What did you think of the show overall?

    As i've said before, for a TV3 production, it was great TV.


    2 - Did Cullen do a good job as the hiring executive?

    I think he was good but very inconsistant. You could see he cared about what he was doing though. I suppose i would be too if I had to hand over €100,000 for a years work.


    3 - Could you take Cullen seriously?

    Mostly yes.


    4 - Would you bring him back for another series?

    No. I'd like to see someone else.


    5 - Would you watch this if they were to bring it back next year?

    Yes, very much so.


    6 - What would you change for the next series?

    Less ads and more thought put into the tasks. More behind the scenes footage too might be nice.


    7 - Would you be tempted to go on the show next time?

    I would but getting 12 weeks off might cause a problem financially.


    8 - What did you make of Bill's two "advisors"?

    Awful really. Its hard to take Jackie seriously because of her appearance. She would never have gotten the gig if she wasn't Bills other half. The other fella has no personality either. Both should go.



    9 - Did the constant product placement pi$$ you off?

    Yes but welcome to the real world folks.



    10 - Would you actually have hired any of the contestants in your place of work?

    Yes, Brenda and maybe Shane if he could cut down on the sexist comments.
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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,662 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Sizzler wrote: »
    1 - What did you think of the show overall?

    2 - Did Cullen do a good job as the hiring executive?

    3 - Could you take Cullen seriously?

    4 - Would you bring him back for another series?

    5 - Would you watch this if they were to bring it back next year?

    6 - What would you change for the next series?

    7 - Would you be tempted to go on the show next time?

    8 - What did you make of Bill's two "advisors"?

    9 - Did the constant product placement pi$$ you off?

    10 - Would you actually have hired any of the contestants in your place of work?

    1. Poor. Its served more as a advertising vehicle for Cullen's businesses and to a lesser degree, sponsors of the show. The show cant be taken serious in any way.

    2. While he is successful in the business world, i found him lacking charisma and respect on the show. His rambling lectures, contradictory criticism and boardroom entry from the toilet?! (:D) just served to amplify this IMO. Perhaps his hands were tied due to the show format, either way, it sucked. If i didnt know who he was in real life, id be laughing at the chap!

    3. no, see above. He critisised people for the sack of critisising people. The most comical moment being his rant at the Aussie girl for not breaking the law and selling in Glendalough anyway when the previous week he lambasting someone for not doing the homework in advance.

    4. No

    5. Unless they get someone Like Mick O'Leary or Denis O'Brien, then no.

    6. Air repeats of Wanderly Wagon instead.

    7. No. Anyone who believes they would make a good entrepreneur or executive manager is out there doing it. Just like in Bill's case, you just go out there and take the risks. CEO's and MD's are not created in lotteries or game shows.

    8. Advisors. Simple as. Nothing more or less. cant comment on their credibility tho as it wasnt demonstrated on the show. They could have been 2 consultants from Doilette for all we know!

    9. Im amazed the BCI didnt take action!

    10. As senior management, no. As employees, depending on the other candidates maybe. Brenda has run businesses before, she was the strongest contender. But you didnt need to sit through a series of the show to find that out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    1 - What did you think of the show overall?

    2 - Did Cullen do a good job as the hiring executive?

    3 - Could you take Cullen seriously?

    4 - Would you bring him back for another series?

    5 - Would you watch this if they were to bring it back next year?

    6 - What would you change for the next series?

    7 - Would you be tempted to go on the show next time?

    8 - What did you make of Bill's two "advisors"?

    9 - Did the constant product placement pi$$ you off?

    10 - Would you actually have hired any of the contestants in your place of work?


    1-exactly as i suspected it would be.same as every irish format of an international show.garbage.
    2-i think he was just playing a character.
    3-No
    4-No.Someone like Michael O'Leary though. . . .
    5-Not with Cullen in charge.
    6-See previous answers
    7-No.If you mess up you are painted as a total muppet.Career suicide.
    8-Playing a role aswell.
    9-Never noticed.
    10-Orla,but just to make coffee,cos she is a bit hawt.:D(only reason she was on the show IMO)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭kmick


    1 - What did you think of the show overall?
    6.5 out of 10
    2 - Did Cullen do a good job as the hiring executive?
    Well they were coming to work for him so he could choose who he wants
    3 - Could you take Cullen seriously?
    No
    4 - Would you bring him back for another series?
    Id like to see someone with a bit more gravitas i.e. Michael O Leary
    5 - Would you watch this if they were to bring it back next year?
    Probably
    6 - What would you change for the next series?
    Crappy budgets the teams were given for tasks circa 200/300 euro.
    7 - Would you be tempted to go on the show next time?
    No way - there was only 4 or 5 normal people on that show.
    8 - What did you make of Bill's two "advisors"?
    They were fine nothing special - those HR advisors were bad though
    9 - Did the constant product placement pi$$ you off?
    No - it was unavoidable as they were working with real businesses
    10 - Would you actually have hired any of the contestants in your place of work?[/QUOTE]
    Id hire the winner, I thought Nicki came up to scratch towards the end. The car sales guy was ok apart from the fact he found it hard to express his thoughts lucidly. I didnt really get a sense that any of the others were much good. The marketing people I thought really showed themselves up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    nedtheshed wrote: »
    10-Orla,but just to make coffee,cos she is a bit hawt.:D(only reason she was on the show IMO)
    Which Orla?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,032 ✭✭✭homerun_homer


    Bond-007 wrote: »
    Which Orla?

    I bet he picks Orla Power, the dog:pac:

    Could you imagine the bitching her and Avril could do if they worked in the same office.

    I would watch another series of the show if they go ahead with it. Feic all else to do on a Monday night so it was watchable television. The last few weeks did provide loads of cringey moments.
    Bill was ok but he was very hypocritical which was annoying. You can't help but think that if you did either/or in any given situation he was still going to berate you for it.
    Question - who buys a friggin Sat Nav on the way to Croker for an All Ireland Game?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    1 - What did you think of the show overall?

    It was watchable enough but I was more forgiving because it was Irish (I like seeing Irish people on TV).

    2 - Did Cullen do a good job as the hiring executive?

    He was a bit inconsistent tbh.

    3 - Could you take Cullen seriously?

    Yes but because he's done well in business rather than based on the show.

    4 - Would you bring him back for another series?

    Yeah, he'll improve.

    5 - Would you watch this if they were to bring it back next year?

    Most likely.

    6 - What would you change for the next series?

    More varied tasks, less product placement.

    7 - Would you be tempted to go on the show next time?

    No. If I wanted to get into business, I'd rather do it on my own than have a camera crew and Bill Cullen breathing down my neck.

    8 - What did you make of Bill's two "advisors"?

    Jackie's ok; the other guy's a bit of an eejit.

    9 - Did the constant product placement pi$$ you off?

    Yes.

    10 - Would you actually have hired any of the contestants in your place of work?

    Hmmm. Some were ok; the bitchy and childish ones no way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,032 ✭✭✭homerun_homer


    simu wrote: »
    8 - What did you make of Bill's two "advisors"?

    Jackie's ok; the other guy's a bit of an eejit.

    You know Jackie has never run a successful business of her own? It's strange that she can be a judge, but at the same time if Danni Minogue can judge X-factor...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    You know Jackie has never run a successful business of her own? It's strange that she can be a judge, but at the same time if Danni Minogue can judge X-factor...

    I don't know what sort of CV she has tbh but she came out ok on the show, I thought. Not wonderful but ok. The role seemed to require common sense and observational skills more than anything else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    Bond-007 wrote: »
    Which Orla?

    There were 2?
    I mean the blonde one.Looks kinda like the Northern Ireland Orlaith offa big brother a couple of years ago.
    Dim-witted as fcuk but you would still throw it into her.
    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭BolBill


    simu wrote: »
    I don't know what sort of CV she has tbh but she came out ok on the show, I thought. Not wonderful but ok. The role seemed to require common sense and observational skills more than anything else.

    In other words, she has eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    1 - What did you think of the show overall?

    Not over surprised, it was a cringeworthy as the US and English versions. Which is what you want from the series. I didn't think that the tasks where as good as either of the other 2 versions. I felt that they where given more then they should have been given.

    2 - Did Cullen do a good job as the hiring executive?

    Yes I think he played the roll well.

    3 - Could you take Cullen seriously?

    As seriously as I can take Sugar!!!!

    4 - Would you bring him back for another series?

    I don't think it will get another series. Unfortunately.

    5 - Would you watch this if they were to bring it back next year?

    Yes, but I don't think they will

    6 - What would you change for the next series?

    The blue lights in the board room and the receptions office. Make them do a bit of work for the tasks.

    7 - Would you be tempted to go on the show next time?

    I am guessing you are and you should go for it but no just wouldn't be for me.

    8 - What did you make of Bill's two "advisors"?

    Thought the woman was better then the english woman.

    9 - Did the constant product placement pi$$ you off?

    Yes and No. It actually depends on the product. No offence to Supermacs, but for a business show the product placement was miss directed and also brought down the show. But thats what producers/editors etc have to deal with when Product placement is legalised.

    And I would have been very annoied if I was AE, when Addidas got a huge add without paying any money. The addidas logo should have been blocked.

    10 - Would you actually have hired any of the contestants in your place of work?

    The girl who won but no prob not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 336 ✭✭Wheels


    Elmo wrote: »


    And I would have been very annoied if I was AE, when Addidas got a huge add without paying any money. The addidas logo should have been blocked.

    But why should it have been blocked? I was surprised they didn't block it, but at least it showed that the advertisers didn't get to dictate the content?

    From what I recall the american one was way OTT on the product placement with every candidate talking about the merits of each brand each week. It didn't feel like that on this but I'm still in conflict as to whether it worked or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Wheels wrote: »
    But why should it have been blocked? I was surprised they didn't block it, but at least it showed that the advertisers didn't get to dictate the content?

    From what I recall the american one was way OTT on the product placement with every candidate talking about the merits of each brand each week. It didn't feel like that on this but I'm still in conflict as to whether it worked or not.


    Most product placements that aren't part of the show are blocked look at MTV, every logo is blocked on cribs. TV3/ITV block out the Coca Cola adverts on American Idol.

    I am taking it from the point of view of EA Games not the viewers. Addidas got a free ad. I would be annoied if I was EA.

    But it was illegal, product placement is not allowed under the Television Without Frountiers Directive and TV3 have plenty of money without the need to have product placements as well.

    This will change in Dec 2009, the BCI will need to make a list of genres where it is allowed, bar News, Documentries and Childrens.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    Did ye read my post ? I linked to a document listing the BCI codes which include a product placement one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Did ye read my post ? I linked to a document listing the BCI codes which include a product placement one.

    Yes I was just mentioning that Product Placement is illegal currently and that in Dec 2009 if the BCI want to allow Product Placement in certain genres then they must make a list of those genres. I wasn't Ignoring your post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    Elmo wrote: »
    Yes I was just mentioning that Product Placement is illegal currently and that in Dec 2009 if the BCI want to allow Product Placement in certain genres then they must make a list of those genres. I wasn't Ignoring your post.

    Ah cool. Well I'm surprised the BCI havn't done anything. RTE's recent output's been a bit risky. They've 2libel complaints against them from their Prime Time show, there was that Late Late Show, Gerry Ryan was talking about dildos and penises and vaginas on his show there the other week!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    BCI won't do anything until someone complains.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    I guess someone will have to complain then :)

    That's a silly rule. If a guard is walking down a street and sees someone being shot, stabbed or robbing a house they'll obviously do something not wait around for someone to ring them up and say "oh btw I'm being stabbed".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Davido84


    1 - What did you think of the show overall?

    The start was a bit slow and I am a bit of skeptic when it comes to Irish reality TV productions, but the last five weeks i think the show got legs and found it's feet but i do believe it is all down to he man Bill Cullen


    2 - Did Cullen do a good job as the hiring executive?

    He did i think he's straight up and if it wasn't a TV production I imagine his choice of word would be effin this and that even if he did read "all the bukes in ". :D

    3 - Could you take Cullen seriously?

    Maybe in a job situation but not as the star of the apprentice, he's a funny character.


    4 - Would you bring him back for another series?

    Definitely

    5 - Would you watch this if they were to bring it back next year?

    Yes I would the production has got all the elements of the UK/US version but with an Irish twist.

    6 - What would you change for the next series?

    Make sure bill gives the candidates a harder time really stress them

    7 - Would you be tempted to go on the show next time?

    I would yes, but I wouldn’t stop laughing


    8 - What did you make of Bill's two "advisors"?

    I thought they were good had the perfect persona for the role question is the lady advisor Bill’s wife?

    9 - Did the constant product placement pi$$ you off?

    Not really I think its standard

    10 - Would you actually have hired any of the contestants in your place of work?

    Well I quite enjoy the idea of a “Sales Assassin” so probably Stuart :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    I wonder did Snap Printing pay for their placement?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    Bond-007 wrote: »
    I wonder did Snap Printing pay for their placement?

    The gas thing is , they were probably providing the show with the printing stuff for free! Yet in the tasks you saw them haggling with them over the price of stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Davido84 wrote: »
    9 - Did the constant product placement pi$$ you off?

    Not really I think its standard

    Read the other posts pointing out that Product Placement is Illegal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭nevey


    Elmo wrote: »
    Read the other posts pointing out that Product Placement is Illegal.

    But are those guys like Snap and Supermacs not all just sponsors of the show? Don't all the names come up at the very last screen?

    I'll come back to answer the extensive questions when I have time. In brief, I feel cheated and betrayed by Bill's lack of consistency, but I still really enjoyed the show, I think he and the sidekicks will improve, I will definitely watch it next time, and no, I would never EVER dream of going on the show myself.

    On a sidenote: I might have been curious to see if I could successfully pass myself off as a 32 year old (am 42), but sure that's been done now!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭BolBill


    "ae" "addidas" "annoied"

    Learn to type people ! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    BolBill wrote: »
    Learn to type people ! :)

    People people people people people ... easy.

    Oh, you mean "Learn to type, people".
    Ah. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    BolBill wrote: »
    "ae" "addidas" "annoied"

    Learn to type people ! :)

    I appolopgise for my lake of tuping skylls. But I think it is my Dyslexia more then my typing skills that is coming out in my posts.

    AE should of course read EA Games. I don't know how to spell Addisa??? and I get annoyed when people point out my lack of spelling skills. Please don't post OTT. If you want to complain about a Dyslexic's use of a keyboard please PM me :)
    But are those guys like Snap and Supermacs not all just sponsors of the show? Don't all the names come up at the very last screen?

    No they are product placement sponsors the main sponsor is TSB. (I won't try to spell the first part of the TSB bank's name :) )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    So a complaint to the Broadcast Complaints Commission is in order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Bond-007 wrote: »
    So a complaint to the Broadcast Complaints Commission is in order.

    No the BCI are looking into the Product Placement on TV3's The Apprentice. There are several advertising rules that RTE, TV3, TG4, Setanta and City have to abide by under both the TVWF EU Directive and the BCI's own codes. RTE and TG4 may not be covered by the BCI's codes on childrens advertising, however RTE are quiet strick on Children's advertising e.g. they do not advertise during programming for the Under 4s.

    The BCI have monitors who monitor National and Local radio and TV for any issues surrounding advertising. AFAIK a donegal radio station was taken of the air after it was found that it breached advertising standards.

    But does the BCI have the balls to act. Probably not. They are fairly relaxed when it comes to regulation and TV3.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    Elmo wrote: »
    No the BCI are looking into the Product Placement on TV3's The Apprentice. .



    How do you know this ? Has there been a report elsewhere on it ? If so , have you a link or source?
    Bond-007 wrote: »
    So a complaint to the Broadcast Complaints Commission is in order.

    Your name is made public when you make a complaint, not too sure how I'd feel about that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    How do you know this ? Has there been a report elsewhere on it ? If so , have you a link or source?

    Happened to get talking to someone in the BCI who told me that the Product Placement was being investigated. I am sure they will have a report in the new year, which will be favourable to both the producers and TV3.

    Sky News had news report about product placement, today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    Elmo wrote: »
    Happened to get talking to someone in the BCI who told me that the Product Placement was being investigated. I am sure they will have a report in the new year, which will be favourable to both the producers and TV3.

    Sky News had news report about product placement, today.

    So then the BCI is just a token orgranisation who don't do what they say they do ? Seems pointless shutting down a regional radio station and letting a national station get away with breaking the rules. Tbh, I'm not too surprised. That damage's done, the shows have been broadcast.

    Independant TV stations can more or less do what they want - look at the UK stations that constantly "push the envelope". Both Channel 4 and Sky constantly challenged broadcasting deceny or intengrity and then if BBC as much as farts on a pre-recorded show it makes the headlines like! It's rubbish.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    So then the BCI is just a token orgranisation who don't do what they say they do ?

    I beleive that the BCI are more careful about their national services, and a little more liberal but yes you are right the BCI and the soon to be BAI will be fairly laxed in their regulation of Today FM, NewsTalk and TV3. We can already see it with the megers that have occured.

    I mean if you wanted you can always apply for Q102s licence for Dublin, the same offer was not provide to anyone when TV3's licence came up for renewal.

    I would say that the BAI will introduce Product Placement accross all genres bar the EU bans on News, Documenties and Children's TV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    So TV3 are going to get away with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    Sizzler wrote: »

    1 - What did you think of the show overall?

    2 - Did Cullen do a good job as the hiring executive?

    3 - Could you take Cullen seriously?

    4 - Would you bring him back for another series?

    5 - Would you watch this if they were to bring it back next year?

    6 - What would you change for the next series?

    7 - Would you be tempted to go on the show next time?

    8 - What did you make of Bill's two "advisors"?

    9 - Did the constant product placement pi$$ you off?

    10 - Would you actually have hired any of the contestants in your place of work?

    Thought I'd better answer my own questions now that the thread is up and running! (Elmo-Pay special attention to answer number 7)

    1 - What did you think of the show overall? For me it was poor, nothing wrong with the format but there was a number of contributing factors which just made it look like amateurish at best. The contestants were poor (with the exception of Brenda they all had run of the mill jobs or were coming from careers that could you could drop in and out of willy nilly, such as random sales jobs, estate agent etc.) The tasks were ridiculous in the most part and poorly thought out and little things like the www.extras.ie receptionist they hired in and the Ster Trek sound FX sliding door...I could go on ! A lower budget than the UK or US versions is no excuse in my opinion. You don't need big budgets to be creative or professional.

    2 - Did Cullen do a good job as the hiring executive? Eh, in a word NO. The man was a joke. He made his cash years ago and quite plainly is so far out of touch with the current workforce culture it was car crash stuff, honestly. As some people have already commented on, he played a part and undoubtedley would not be like that in a real hiring situation BUT the plain fact is the man probably hasn't recruited anybody more senior than a butler for himself in the last ten years and his appreciation and ability to question was embarrassing at times, he only short stopped of arguing with himself.

    3 - Could you take Cullen seriously? No! His perpetual self contradiction and I'll comment just for the sake of it in every situation was frankly disturbing. How could you respect him for this, scripted or otherwise. The great leaders / managers do not spout shoite just for the sake of it, they listen. Quality, not quantity Bill.

    4 - Would you bring him back for another series? Jesus, NO. The sad fact is that any businessman/woman in Ireland that people respect probably have a day job far more important than wanting to be associated with this show. As a lot of people have said on multiple threads here, Mick O'Leary would be fantastic as he tells it like it is, even if you don't like it. Cullen is a million miles away from the coalface and looked clueless in his questioning at times, the fact is, he has hoxy's to do his job for him for the last 20 years and this was alien. TV3, couldn't do any better as the genuine execs. have a business to run.

    5 - Would you watch this if they were to bring it back next year? In honesty, probably yes, purely to see if it does any better, but frankly I wouldnt be expecting much improvement.

    6 - What would you change for the next series? Theres not a lot that can't be improved, lets be fair, especially the lead role and his two lackies.

    7 - Would you be tempted to go on the show next time?

    Not for 250k a year. Quite happy with current career thank you :) Although how anybody who takes themselves seriously would actually want to work for Cullen after this is mind boggling.

    8 - What did you make of Bill's two "advisors"? Ridiculous. Nepitism at its absolute best. Jackie, his partner of 372 years and her nephew. Jackie ran a boutique in Blackrock back in the 1800's and she's now some sort of uber business guru ? WTF? The mute, not really sure what his talents were, he was lurking around in the background with a puss on him for the majority of his airtime and was only given a speaking part in the last 3 episodes when the producer obviously gave him remote electro-shock analysis just to make him look alive. No discernable talent and if it weren't for Bill this lad probably wouldnt have even beat some of the contestants onto the show.

    9 - Did the constant product placement pi$$ you off?

    SNAP Printing/ Grafton's Barbers / Renault/ Appleby's/ Garmin...FFS. They didnt even attempt subtlety.

    10 - Would you actually have hired any of the contestants in your place of work? I see a previous poster said earlier in the thread that he was just a joe average worker, like us all, but you dont let that stop you having an opinion :) These people were not at the top of their careers, or anywhere near it. What were they trying to achieve here? Lets face it they didnt want the "kudos" of working for Cullen, because there isnt any. They saw the €100K salary and invariably saw the BBC series and thought this could be good for me but some of these people may never work again after this so bad was their performances. Stuart - nice chap but clueless, dopey but good natured Paddy, Orla (blonde) would be a great as a Marcel Marceau impressionist, Nikki probably found her mark as an estate agent, etc etc. Brenda was the only one that had the entrepreneurial background so it was no surprise that she won in the end.
    Bond-007 wrote: »
    BCI won't do anything until someone complains.
    Done :)
    Bond-007 wrote: »
    So TV3 are going to get away with it?
    Grrrr if they do :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    Dublin Airport also got a plug. They were an advertiser/sponsor also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Sizzler wrote: »
    Thought I'd better answer my own questions now that the thread is up and running! (Elmo-Pay special attention to answer number 7)

    7 - Would you be tempted to go on the show next time?

    Not for 250k a year. Quite happy with current career thank you :) Although how anybody who takes themselves seriously would actually want to work for Cullen after this is mind boggling.

    8 - What did you make of Bill's two "advisors"? Ridiculous. Nepitism at its absolute best. Jackie, his partner of 372 years and her nephew. Jackie ran a boutique in Blackrock back in the 1800's and she's now some sort of uber business guru ? WTF? The mute, not really sure what his talents were, he was lurking around in the background with a puss on him for the majority of his airtime and was only given a speaking part in the last 3 episodes when the producer obviously gave him remote electro-shock analysis just to make him look alive. No discernable talent and if it weren't for Bill this lad probably wouldnt have even beat some of the contestants onto the show.

    9 - Did the constant product placement pi$$ you off?

    SNAP Printing/ Grafton's Barbers / Renault/ Appleby's/ Garmin...FFS. They didnt even attempt subtlety.

    I thought the worst Product Placement was the 3G stores.

    Why should I be interested in Number 7. As I said last night watching the repeat, you win 100,000 job not €100,000, I you have to go and work for them :( not a real competition, I wonder if it is tax free? <<< retorical question.

    I didn't realise how bad the two side kicks were, that is ridiculus.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Gerry Ryan was talking about dildos and penises and vaginas on his show there the other week!

    OH NOES!!!11 :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭peanuthead


    1 - What did you think of the show overall?
    I thought it was great, and did us Irish proud. However I did miss a few episodes, which I would never do if it was the Alan Sugar one. So maybe not as gripping as the English one.

    2 - Did Cullen do a good job as the hiring executive?
    Yes, I think he did a great job. And I think Jackie and Brian did too. I was worried it was going to be the Irish version of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, Bill trying to be Alan, etc.. but it wasn't like that at all. He was who he said he was going to be, a nice guy, but firm at the same time.

    3 - Could you take Cullen seriously?
    Absolutely. He clearly knew what he wanted from day one, and I have to say, of all the times I watched it, the right person was always sacked in the end.

    4 - Would you bring him back for another series?

    Yep, definitely.

    5 - Would you watch this if they were to bring it back next year?
    Indeed

    6 - What would you change for the next series?
    Don't really know to be honest. Some of the tasks were a little boring I suppose.

    7 - Would you be tempted to go on the show next time?

    No because I wouldnt be able for it.

    8 - What did you make of Bill's two "advisors"?
    I thought they did a great job, they clearly know their stuff too.

    9 - Did the constant product placement pi$$ you off?
    No.

    10 - Would you actually have hired any of the contestants in your place of work?
    Yes I think the both finalists were very worthy of the position, but I also think the best person won at the end of the day. I would work for/with both them women happily.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    Hey, Peanut, are ye getting a Garmin,Applesby,Snap Printing etc voucher for Xmas this year ? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,551 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    peanuthead wrote: »
    1 - What did you think of the show overall?
    I thought it was great, and did us Irish proud. However I did miss a few episodes, which I would never do if it was the Alan Sugar one. So maybe not as gripping as the English one.

    2 - Did Cullen do a good job as the hiring executive?
    Yes, I think he did a great job. And I think Jackie and Brian did too. I was worried it was going to be the Irish version of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, Bill trying to be Alan, etc.. but it wasn't like that at all. He was who he said he was going to be, a nice guy, but firm at the same time.

    3 - Could you take Cullen seriously?
    Absolutely. He clearly knew what he wanted from day one, and I have to say, of all the times I watched it, the right person was always sacked in the end.

    4 - Would you bring him back for another series?

    Yep, definitely.

    5 - Would you watch this if they were to bring it back next year?
    Indeed

    6 - What would you change for the next series?
    Don't really know to be honest. Some of the tasks were a little boring I suppose.

    7 - Would you be tempted to go on the show next time?

    No because I wouldnt be able for it.

    8 - What did you make of Bill's two "advisors"?
    I thought they did a great job, they clearly know their stuff too.

    9 - Did the constant product placement pi$$ you off?
    No.

    10 - Would you actually have hired any of the contestants in your place of work?
    Yes I think the both finalists were very worthy of the position, but I also think the best person won at the end of the day. I would work for/with both them women happily.

    Is that you Shrek?:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    peanuthead wrote: »
    1 - What did you think of the show overall?
    I thought it was great, and did us Irish proud. However I did miss a few episodes, which I would never do if it was the Alan Sugar one. So maybe not as gripping as the English one.

    2 - Did Cullen do a good job as the hiring executive?
    Yes, I think he did a great job. And I think Jackie and Brian did too. I was worried it was going to be the Irish version of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, Bill trying to be Alan, etc.. but it wasn't like that at all. He was who he said he was going to be, a nice guy, but firm at the same time.

    3 - Could you take Cullen seriously?
    Absolutely. He clearly knew what he wanted from day one, and I have to say, of all the times I watched it, the right person was always sacked in the end.

    4 - Would you bring him back for another series?

    Yep, definitely.

    5 - Would you watch this if they were to bring it back next year?
    Indeed

    6 - What would you change for the next series?
    Don't really know to be honest. Some of the tasks were a little boring I suppose.

    7 - Would you be tempted to go on the show next time?

    No because I wouldnt be able for it.

    8 - What did you make of Bill's two "advisors"?
    I thought they did a great job, they clearly know their stuff too.

    9 - Did the constant product placement pi$$ you off?
    No.

    10 - Would you actually have hired any of the contestants in your place of work?
    Yes I think the both finalists were very worthy of the position, but I also think the best person won at the end of the day. I would work for/with both them women happily.
    So do you like working at TV3 then ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Sizzler wrote: »
    So do you like working at TV3 then ;)

    Even I think that is a bit unfair!!! Peanuthead might be honest, but the post lacks little criticism. Overall it was a well produced show, and the producers had probably nothing like NBCs or BBCs budget, and for that they must be congratulated. But even NBCs and BBCs version suffer from mediocrity allot of the time. IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭VERYinterested


    Watching Prime Time Investigates tonight, I think Bill should have hired this lady:

    http://pipl.com/directory/people/Mary%2520Lee/Rhodes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    Elmo wrote: »
    Even I think that is a bit unfair!!! Peanuthead might be honest,

    .

    Gordan's said that there's a lot of TV3 shills popping up lately.

    Watching Prime Time Investigates tonight, I think Bill should have hired this lady:

    http://pipl.com/directory/people/Mary%2520Lee/Rhodes


    Why ? that link doesn't tell me much about her


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭VERYinterested


    Mary Lee Rhodes!! Remember all the talk about Liathroidi?


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