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What would the world be like if..

  • 09-12-2008 11:06pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭


    What would the world be like if Europeans had never colonized the Americas, if countries didn't conquer others. If continents remained isolated from each other. What do you think the world would have turned out like?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    Planet of the Apes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,226 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Adiboo wrote: »
    What would the world be like if Europeans had never colonized the Americas, if countries didn't conquer others. If continents remained isolated from each other. What do you think the world would have turned out like?

    We could all fight amongst ourselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    the aztecs woulds till exist, with their advanced building techniques, and they would have built a spaceship by now so we would all be living on Mars, eating space mars bars in the shape of pyramids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭murfie


    we would be far less advanced in every aspect of human knowledge and creativity. Conflict if you only take WW2 as an example advanced science and engineering at such an accelerated pace that there is no way that could have been completed without war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭marzic


    we'd be pretty sick of pork...:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    More interestingly - what would have happened if the continents never split up? Would we still be deeply connected to our African heritage as opposed to the wide diversity we find today?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    The_B_Man wrote: »
    the aztecs woulds till exist, with their advanced building techniques, and they would have built a spaceship by now so we would all be living on Mars, eating space mars bars in the shape of pyramids.

    No they wouldn't they'd have stripped the land of any resource or value and died out...Imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,226 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    marzic wrote: »
    we'd be pretty sick of pork...:(

    And no feckin shpuds! :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭starn


    and no smokes:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭Zynks


    This island would have no Spanish, British nor Scandinavian DNA - I wonder what a "pure" Irish person would look like :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 287 ✭✭Melange


    Adiboo wrote: »
    What would the world be like if Europeans had never colonized the Americas, if countries didn't conquer others. If continents remained isolated from each other. What do you think the world would have turned out like?

    Conquest and colonisation have been such integral parts of human history - indeed, some would argue that they are the driving force behind large-scale human interaction - that I couldn't even begin to imagine what the world would look like without them.

    Some kind of anarchist order would probably have resulted, as the desire for the expansion of one's own personal power over others was the primary motivation behind the establishment of the first unified states/kingdoms/despotisms: the desire of the ruler to rule over others. Without the human propensity towards conquest and self aggrandisement, it's unlikely that we would have seen the creation of countries in the first place.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    Thirdfox wrote: »
    More interestingly - what would have happened if the continents never split up? Would we still be deeply connected to our African heritage as opposed to the wide diversity we find today?

    I don't think it was much of a factor. Humans are in fact not a very genetically diverse species on with only about 0.01 -0.02% genetic varience, In fact Africans arethe most genetically diverse of all of us, as the smaller subset of humans who migrated out of Africa took a smaller gene pool with them.

    And the continents were well split up by the time we came along, perhaps if they hadn't we wouldn't even be here :)


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,351 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Zynks wrote: »
    This island would have no Spanish, British nor Scandinavian DNA - I wonder what a "pure" Irish person would look like :confused:

    This?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭Diggabot


    Planet of the Apes.


    Oh my God. I'm back. I'm home. All the time, it was... We finally really did it. You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell :):):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,226 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    After several thousand years of in-breeding we'd all have the brain capacity of a pea, much like the politicians of today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 950 ✭✭✭EamonnKeane


    The_B_Man wrote: »
    the aztecs woulds till exist, with their advanced building techniques, and they would have built a spaceship by now so we would all be living on Mars, eating space mars bars in the shape of pyramids.
    They didn't have iron or horses, so they would hardly have advanced at all.
    Thirdfox wrote: »
    More interestingly - what would have happened if the continents never split up? Would we still be deeply connected to our African heritage as opposed to the wide diversity we find today?

    What makes you think "African" heritage is closest to the original human culture?

    And Europeans didn't really colonise South America, most of the Amerindians survived. And a lot of Africans came over too, whether they wanted to or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    What makes you think "African" heritage is closest to the original human culture?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_single-origin_hypothesis

    That's why.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭Zynks


    Zaph wrote: »

    Yeah, happy drunk leprechauns... but is the red hair an original Irish feature? I heard it had Nordic origins (?)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 446 ✭✭phenomenon


    White people would definitely be in the minority. We are only native to this little peninsula off the Eurasian landmass we call "Europe". But there are white majorities in North America, parts of South America (eg Argentina), Australia, New Zealand and parts of Africa.

    ....all at measly the expense of annihilating the native populations.

    This is changing however. Within 20 years Latinos will overtake whites as the majority race in the USA.

    I, for one, welcome our new spanish speaking overlords.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭BroomBurner


    White people wouldn't necessarily be in the minority. If noone colonised anywhere, then in each part of the world, people would have the correct skin colour for their environment, so minority and majority would only come in to it in terms of which society was best placed to have more children and keep them alive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    phenomenon wrote: »
    White people would definitely be in the minority. We are only native to this little peninsula off the Eurasian landmass we call "Europe". But there are white majorities in North America, parts of South America (eg Argentina), Australia, New Zealand and parts of Africa.

    ....all at measly the expense of annihilating the native populations.

    This is changing however. Within 20 years Latinos will overtake whites as the majority race in the USA.

    I, for one, welcome our new spanish speaking overlords.

    I though Caucasians were already a "minority" technically? - Asians (just India and China) make up almost 1/2 of the world's population...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Aodan83


    Zynks wrote: »
    This island would have no Spanish, British nor Scandinavian DNA - I wonder what a "pure" Irish person would look like :confused:
    Apparently, before the famine, the Irish were one of the tallest nationlities in europe. Not sure how accurate that is though, I heard it off RTE!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 Fud Duddy


    marzic wrote: »
    we'd be pretty sick of pork...:(


    I'm still laughing at this,
    though I shouldn't be.


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