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Bookie Shops in America?

  • 09-12-2008 12:32am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭


    Hi guys i was basicallywondering what the bookies set up is like in America? basically is it similar to Ireland?Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    there are very little if any bookies in america

    legal bookies that is

    i was just talking to my american roommate about this yesterday and in almost all the states sports betting is illegal as is most gambling. he says indian reservations / vegas / atlantic city and a few others are exceptions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,632 ✭✭✭✭okidoki987


    As said above, there's none apart from those listed.
    If you were living in USA and tried to place a bet with a bookies in
    England/Ireland, the ISP would block it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭deise gal


    okidoki987 wrote: »
    As said above, there's none apart from those listed.
    If you were living in USA and tried to place a bet with a bookies in
    England/Ireland, the ISP would block it.

    Oh right so the American govertment is totally against it!
    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,330 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    New York City have things called OTB (Off Track Bookmakers) and I assume you can bet on horse racing and other sports. Never used them so don't know if you need an account or anything like that but they were open to the public


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    okidoki987 wrote: »
    As said above, there's none apart from those listed.
    If you were living in USA and tried to place a bet with a bookies in
    England/Ireland, the ISP would block it.

    I don't think this is true, at least not for most states and most ISPs.

    Many, but not all of the online bookies refuse to take American customers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 647 ✭✭✭fintan


    RoundTower wrote: »
    I don't think this is true, at least not for most states and most ISPs.

    Many, but not all of the online bookies refuse to take American customers.

    ISPs don't filter like that, it's the bookies who look at the ip address and if its US they close / block the account.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I was in California during the summer and couldnt access my PP or Betfair account. No access to any gambling sites.

    It was ok, as the following week I was in Vegas:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 225 ✭✭trailerparkboy


    If only we were more like america and banned all gambling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭heyjude


    If only we were more like america and banned all gambling.

    Yup gambling is banned in the US, but its also a multi billion dollar industry there.
    Just how widespread gambling actually is over there, is reflected in mainstream sports coverage where it is commonplace to refer to a team as being 3pt favourites(the 3 pts being the betting spread).

    The ban on gambling in many American states is also taken to the extreme, as it means that even running a raffle to fundraise for a school or church is also banned. Banning all gambling includes banning all charitable draws too, which would badly affect many charities here.

    Besides even if gambling was banned here, people would still gamble. I mean many drugs are banned here, but that doesn't stop people using/abusing them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    heyjude wrote: »
    Yup gambling is banned in the US, but its also a multi billion dollar industry there.
    Just how widespread gambling actually is over there, is reflected in mainstream sports coverage where it is commonplace to refer to a team as being 3pt favourites(the 3 pts being the betting spread).

    The ban on gambling in many American states is also taken to the extreme, as it means that even running a raffle to fundraise for a school or church is also banned. Banning all gambling includes banning all charitable draws too, which would badly affect many charities here.

    Besides even if gambling was banned here, people would still gamble. I mean many drugs are banned here, but that doesn't stop people using/abusing them.
    Thats not really true, Gambling is legal under US federal law. Each state has the ability to restrict it as they see fit.

    Sports betting is is havily retricted in most states, mainly due to concerns about fixing. But there is no blanket ban on gambling in most states. Its a common misconception,
    Around 43 states run a lotto similar to here. Which is of course gambling, and probably a lot less EV for the punter than other forms.

    PeakOutput wrote: »
    i was just talking to my american roommate about this yesterday and in almost all the states sports betting is illegal as is most gambling. he says indian reservations / vegas / atlantic city and a few others are exceptions
    I even had an american firend swear to me that all gambling was illegal in California, he only believed me when I named some famous casinos and poker tourneys in LA.
    Not including the indian reservations, there are 17 or 18 states with legal casinos.

    I'm not saying its a widespread as it is here, and even though almost all states allow some gambling, most is only a lotto. But casinos are more common than is often suggested (see here for example). And I accept that bookie shops are the rarest form of gambling in the states, I think only 2 or 3 states have not made it illegal. Would be fair emough to say sports betting (not gambling) is illegal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    Mellor wrote: »
    Thats not really true, Gambling is legal under US federal law. Each state has the ability to restrict it as they see fit.
    There is a federal law called the Wire Act which makes almost all off-course sports betting operations illegal.


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