Ireland u20??

Shanegggg · 08-12-2008 7:30pm #1

i heard the u20s squad for this years 6 nations was named but haven't been able to find it anywhere on the net, was just wonderin if any1 knew the squad or where i could find out? thnks in advance

Amazotheamazing · 08-12-2008 8:25pm

Shanegggg wrote: »

i heard the u20s squad for this years 6 nations was named but haven't been able to find it anywhere on the net, was just wonderin if any1 knew the squad or where i could find out? thnks in advance

They've had training sessions alright, but I don't think the final squad has been named yet.

They are playing Leinster A next week (the 17th I think), so that should give some indication, though Leinster A might have a good few of the Irish team playing just to give everyone a game.

Shanegggg · 08-12-2008 8:33pm

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

They've had training sessions alright, but I don't think the final squad has been named yet.

They are playing Leinster A next week (the 17th I think), so that should give some indication, though Leinster A might have a good few of the Irish team playing just to give everyone a game.

i'm pretty sure it has been named, it has been cut to 26 since lst wk but i dont no the final 26, nd i think tht match is on the 22nd vs leinster A,

Amazotheamazing · 08-12-2008 8:43pm

Shanegggg wrote: »

i'm pretty sure it has been named, it has been cut to 26 since lst wk but i dont no the final 26, nd i think tht match is on the 22nd vs leinster A,

You're right, actually it's Munster A v. Leinster A next week, then Ireland v. Leinster A the following week. Sorry bout that.

Goodluck2me · 09-12-2008 11:46am

It has been named, don;t have it off hand though.

Serenity Now! · 09-12-2008 12:30pm

Shanegggg wrote: »

i heard the u20s squad for this years 6 nations was named but haven't been able to find it anywhere on the net, was just wonderin if any1 knew the squad or where i could find out? thnks in advance

The U20 Squad has not been announced yet. They're still in trial stage.
The U18s have been named but thats because they have a game in Italy this month.

ktulu123 · 09-12-2008 12:49pm

Shanegggg wrote: »

i heard the u20s squad for this years 6 nations was named but haven't been able to find it anywhere on the net, was just wonderin if any1 knew the squad or where i could find out? thnks in advance

Is your bro up for selection or something?

Serenity Now! · 09-12-2008 2:30pm

I checked this up for you.
U20s training squad will be announced publically any day now ie. later today or tomorrow.

Shanegggg · 09-12-2008 8:18pm

Serenity Now! wrote: »

I checked this up for you.
U20s training squad will be announced publically any day now ie. later today or tomorrow.

cheers, nd i no it has been named because i no someone who is on the it nd was just wonderin bout the rest of it

RugbyFanatic · 09-12-2008 10:25pm

Shanegggg wrote: »

cheers, nd i no it has been named because i no someone who is on the it nd was just wonderin bout the rest of it

I too know someone who is on it and don't think it has been announced yet I think they have a camp on the 18th where the final cuts are usually made.

edit : just noticed u were looking for training squad not actual squad selected

Amazotheamazing · 11-12-2008 10:53am

Serenity Now! wrote: »

I checked this up for you.
U20s training squad will be announced publically any day now ie. later today or tomorrow.

Any more on this?

Serenity Now! · 11-12-2008 11:53am

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Any more on this?

Yes.
It will be released later today.

Amazotheamazing · 11-12-2008 12:07pm

Serenity Now! wrote: »

Yes.
It will be released later today.

Thanks.

So, can we start the interpro bitching, I predict they'll overlook loads of Munster talent to pick substandard Northerners....

Serenity Now! · 11-12-2008 3:15pm

here ya go...

Ireland U20 Training Squad:

Forwards -
Eoin Cremen (Dublin University/Leinster)
Oliver Day (Saracens/Exiles)
Mark Flanagan (UCD/Leinster)
Conor Higgins (Buccaneers/Connacht)
Stephen Mahony (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
Jack McGrath (St.Mary’s College/Leinster)
David McGregor (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
Joe Moran (Galwegians/Connacht)
Jack O' Connell (Lansdowne/Leinster)
Peter O' Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster)
Ciaran Ruddock (Neath/Exiles)
Dominic Ryan (Lansdowne/Leinster
James Sanford (Queens University/Ulster)
Thomas Sexton (Old Belvedere/Leinster)

Backs -
Ricky Andrew (Dungannon/Ulster)
Andrew Burke (Garryowen/Munster)
Gary Foley (Blackrock College/Leinster)
Shane Gahan (Lansdowne/Leinster)
Matthew Healy (Lansdowne/Leinster)
Michael Keating (Clontarf/Leinster)
Ian Madigan (Blackrock College/Leinster)
Ian McKinley (UCD/Leinster)
Sean Morris (Oxford University/Exiles)
Chris Nolan (Cork Constitution/Munster)
John O Brien (Buccaneers/Connacht)
Eamonn Sheridan (Lansdowne/Leinster)

Not considered due to injury:
Paddy McAllister (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
Sean Dougal (Ballymena/Ulster)
Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster)
Nevin Spence (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
Ronan O'Mahony (Garryowen/Munster)
David Kearney (Lansdowne/Leinster)

U20 Pre Six Nations Schedule:
January 2nd – 5th: Belfast Training Camp
January 27th – 29th: Pre Six Nations Athlone Training Camp
February 6th: Ireland v France, Dubarry Park, Athlone
February 14th: Italy v Ireland, Piacenza
February 27th: Ireland v England, Dubarry Park, Athlone
March 13th: Scotland v Ireland, Perth
March 20th: Wales v Ireland, Llanelli

Amazotheamazing · 11-12-2008 3:19pm

Thanks.

No mention of the Leinster game?

Interesting to see McCarthy didn't make it. Pity Kearney's out, he's a big talent imo.

omgiluvxmas · 11-12-2008 3:22pm

my bro was selected.;)

RtD · 11-12-2008 4:11pm

Just wondering, how come there seems the be a lot more Leinster players than elsewhere, Munster in particular I thought would supply more? There's no provincial one upmanship implied in my question, I'm just wondering as a Leinster supporter, who is ashamed to admit that he doesn't know too much about the younger teams, if our up and comings are particularly bountiful at the minute?

RugbyFanatic · 11-12-2008 4:17pm

RtD wrote: »

Just wondering, how come there seems the be a lot more Leinster players than elsewhere, Munster in particular I thought would supply more? There's no provincial one upmanship implied in my question, I'm just wondering as a Leinster supporter, who is ashamed to admit that he doesn't know too much about the younger teams, if our up and comings are particularly bountiful at the minute?

I was at a Munster vs Leinster under 20s game and Leinster thrashed them by something like 40points Leinster have some serious talent coming through.

Amazotheamazing · 11-12-2008 4:40pm

RtD wrote: »

Just wondering, how come there seems the be a lot more Leinster players than elsewhere, Munster in particular I thought would supply more? There's no provincial one upmanship implied in my question, I'm just wondering as a Leinster supporter, who is ashamed to admit that he doesn't know too much about the younger teams, if our up and comings are particularly bountiful at the minute?

Far more rugby schools in Leinster, and indeed Ulster, than in Munster. No huge mystery to it.

Very few of the above players will come through for Ireland, or for their province.

jediyoda · 11-12-2008 7:18pm

RtD wrote: »

Just wondering, how come there seems the be a lot more Leinster players than elsewhere, Munster in particular I thought would supply more? There's no provincial one upmanship implied in my question, I'm just wondering as a Leinster supporter, who is ashamed to admit that he doesn't know too much about the younger teams, if our up and comings are particularly bountiful at the minute?

perhaps the fact that leinster won the interpro's?

anonymous_joe · 11-12-2008 8:50pm

Ulster have the most rugby schools, then Leinster, then Munster, then Connacht.

So in theory, that's the order the provinces should be in in terms of talent.

Does anyone know what happened to the various U20's who won the Grand Slam in teh 6 Nations a year or two ago?

themont85 · 11-12-2008 10:43pm

anonymous_joe wrote: »

Ulster have the most rugby schools, then Leinster, then Munster, then Connacht.

So in theory, that's the order the provinces should be in in terms of talent.

Does anyone know what happened to the various U20's who won the Grand Slam in teh 6 Nations a year or two ago?

15 - Felix Jones Leinster Acadamy/Leinster A/Bench with senior side
14 - Shane Monahan Leinster Acadamy/Leinster A
13 - Darren Cave full contract with Ulster
12 - Aidan Wynne full contract with connacht
11 - Keith Earls full Munster
10 - Ian Keatley full Connacht
9 - Paul O'Donohoe Leinster Acadamy/A
1 - Cian Healy Leinster full
2 - Richard Sweeney Leinster acadamy
3 - Jamie Hagan Leinster acadamy/Leinster A
4 - Conor Mc Inerney Leinster Acadamy/Leinster A
5 - Andrew Browne full Connacht
6 - Thomas Anderson Ulster full
7 - Kevin Sheahan I think he was rumoured to be playing for the USA?! could be wrong
8 - David Pollock Captain Ulster full

16 - Ger Slattery Unknown
17 - Ruaidhri Murphy Leinster Acadamy/ Leinster A
18 - Neilus Keogh Unknown
19 - Eoghan Grace Unknown
20 - David Drake Ulster Acadamy
21 - Niall O'Connor full Ulster
22 - Kyle Tonetti Leinster Acadamy/ Leinster A

8 Leinster Acadamy or have played for Leinster A-all still in contention for provincial spots, 1 Ulster Acadamy, 9 with full provincial honours and 4, one of which i think has played for the USA and the other 3 im not so sure. Just 2 years later i think its interesting that almost 50% have full provincial caps. I think that discounting players at u20 that 'almost all will never get beyond AIL' is wrong, not just because of this obvious great year but at such a young age.

I said it last year that the 08 LSSC had outstanding talent coming from it. There's already 8 from lasts years cup in the u20 squad, all of whom are eligable again next year. Particularly great to see props-McGrath and O'Connell-Ireland's 'weak' area both are hugely talented. Ian McKinley has great potential at Out half. Michael Keating is ripping it up in the AIL whilst Gary Foley and Tom Sexton are already full Leinster Acadamy.

anonymous_joe · 11-12-2008 10:59pm

themont85 wrote: »

15 - Felix Jones Leinster Acadamy/Leinster A/Bench with senior side
14 - Shane Monahan Leinster Acadamy/Leinster A
13 - Darren Cave full contract with Ulster
12 - Aidan Wynne full contract with connacht
11 - Keith Earls full Munster
10 - Ian Keatley full Connacht
9 - Paul O'Donohoe Leinster Acadamy/A
1 - Cian Healy Leinster full
2 - Richard Sweeney Leinster acadamy
3 - Jamie Hagan Leinster acadamy/Leinster A
4 - Conor Mc Inerney Leinster Acadamy/Leinster A
5 - Andrew Browne full Connacht
6 - Thomas Anderson Ulster full
7 - Kevin Sheahan I think he was rumoured to be playing for the USA?! could be wrong
8 - David Pollock Captain Ulster full

16 - Ger Slattery Unknown
17 - Ruaidhri Murphy Leinster Acadamy/ Leinster A
18 - Neilus Keogh Unknown
19 - Eoghan Grace Unknown
20 - David Drake Ulster Acadamy
21 - Niall O'Connor full Ulster
22 - Kyle Tonetti Leinster Acadamy/ Leinster A

8 Leinster Acadamy or have played for Leinster A-all still in contention for provincial spots, 1 Ulster Acadamy, 9 with full provincial honours and 4, one of which i think has played for the USA and the other 3 im not so sure. Just 2 years later i think its interesting that almost 50% have full provincial caps. I think that discounting players at u20 that 'almost all will never get beyond AIL' is wrong, not just because of this obvious great year but at such a young age.

I said it last year that the 08 LSSC had outstanding talent coming from it. There's already 8 from lasts years cup in the u20 squad, all of whom are eligable again next year. Particularly great to see props-McGrath and O'Connell-Ireland's 'weak' area both are hugely talented. Ian McKinley has great potential at Out half. Michael Keating is ripping it up in the AIL whilst Gary Foley and Tom Sexton are already full Leinster Acadamy.

To the best of my knowledge Kevin Sheahan has declared for the USA. He was born there anyway.

Amazotheamazing · 11-12-2008 11:06pm

Ger Slattery is the goal-kicking hooker playing for Young Munster in the AIL. Serious talent, but a little small for the pro game and behind a lot of talent in the Munster set-up. Has played for Munster A though, iirc.

Eoin Grace is playing or Shannon, Munster A and is the Munster Academy.

I think Neilus Keogh (brother of Stephen iirc) is focussing on medical studies, but he is on a rugby scholarship with UCC.

spinaltap · 11-12-2008 11:09pm

actually dont think hes that small, great raw talent is our GER .

Amazotheamazing · 11-12-2008 11:18pm

spinaltap wrote: »

actually dont think hes that small, great raw talent is our GER .

I haven't seen him play in a while, maybe I've got in wrong. He's up there with Varley in terms of overlooked talent, imo.

themont85 · 11-12-2008 11:20pm

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Ger Slattery is the goal-kicking hooker playing for Young Munster in the AIL. Serious talent, but a little small for the pro game and behind a lot of talent in the Munster set-up. Has played for Munster A though, iirc.

Eoin Grace is playing or Shannon, Munster A and is the Munster Academy.

I think Neilus Keogh (brother of Stephen iirc) is focussing on medical studies, but he is on a rugby scholarship with UCC.

I'm sorry i missed out on those guys, tbh I would be more familiar with Leinster underage. So pretty much all of that 20s team have played for either their full province or the A equivilent.

anonymous_joe · 12-12-2008 12:22am

themont85 wrote: »

I'm sorry i missed out on those guys, tbh I would be more familiar with Leinster underage. So pretty much all of that 20s team have played for either their full province or the A equivilent.

Pretty impressive actually.

Goodluck2me · 12-12-2008 10:54am

anonymous_joe wrote: »

Ulster have the most rugby schools, then Leinster, then Munster, then Connacht.

So in theory, that's the order the provinces should be in in terms of talent.

Does anyone know what happened to the various U20's who won the Grand Slam in teh 6 Nations a year or two ago?

The problem there is that Ulster schools sides are all a year older than the other schools so they miss out on much of the representative rugby. Hence also why there is no all-ireland schools trophy, which I'm sure there'd be a market for.

anonymous_joe wrote: »

To the best of my knowledge Kevin Sheahan has declared for the USA. He was born there anyway.

Yeah shiner is on scholarship over there now.

anonymous_joe · 12-12-2008 2:10pm

goodluck2me wrote: »

The problem there is that Ulster schools sides are all a year older than the other schools so they miss out on much of the representative rugby. Hence also why there is no all-ireland schools trophy, which I'm sure there'd be a market for.

Really? Didn't know that, makes sense though.

Yeah shiner is on scholarship over there now.

No he;s not, I saw him the other day.

He will be though to the best of my knowledge.

Ireland u20??

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