Why does "everyone" hate the Sindo?

mike65

To save csons thread!

Robbo

Irish Models, Barry Egan, the low cost of "buying" a puff piece in the lifestyle section, what remains of "The 03 Team", Caligula's Horse, really bad subediting (repeating the same quote in paragraphs 2 and 3 of the leader on the frontpage this week), Brendan O'Connor, the beatification of Katy French...shall I keep going?

bugler

Ireland turned really ugly in certain ways once we became "wealthy". The Sindo pretty much packages all the ugliness up into a Sunday paper.

My main gripes with it are:

- BOC writes huge portions of it, very often commenting in an ill-informed manner on matters in which he is not at all well versed.

- The habit of turning over pages to Ministers for their own articles. This makes me uneasy. Politicians have easy media access anyway, they don't need column inches.

- Eoghan Harris defending the improbable tales of certain politicians ad nauseum.

- Nauseating self-glorifying pieces pop up regularly from the F list Irish celebrity Krystle set, in which they grate on and on about utter ****e. Like being in Krystle.

- There was that article about housekeepers. *shudder*
If you made me pick one thing I liked about it, it would be that it has allowed Gene Kerrigan to buck its own trend. How does poor Gene stomach their Christmas party?

I'd like a contrary, vigilant press who challenge the official version of events and open up public life to healthy scrutiny. By this measure, the Sindo is boll0cks.

kmick

Because they mostly seem to make it up as they go along?

santosubito

It really is a **** paper.

seamus

They solidified their status as a rag when they pissed all over Liam Lawlor's grave when his body was still warm.

He's not exactly deserving of beatification, but for the sake of his family and friends, there was no need for their conduct at that time.

I'm very glad that interpreter took them to the cleaners.

jdivision

1. They don't even remember what they wrote last week, hence a constant shift of opinion
2. Nepotism. Aengus Fanning, Brendan Fanning, dion Fanning. Ann Harris, Eoghan Harris, Constance Harris and another one.
3. Ill informed rubbish
4. Opinion without justification
5. John O'Keeffe's cheerleading without qualifications
6 The beatify Bertie nonsense which is rapidly becoming bring back Berties
7. The fact that Anguish hires many of the 'journalists' from shops, restaurants or in one case from the mortgage store cos he thinks they're good looking
8. Barry Ego, Nuff said

Dublin's Finest

A million people don't.

Passenger

Yerra, Sunday papers are of a reletively lamentable standard, the SIndo is no different.

You get a substantial amount or readage for 2.50 none the less.

Nodin

The Sindo is like entering a lift with a group of obnoxious people who will throw their unsubstantiated crap at you for all of its slow traverse. Worse still, unlike the opinionated taxi driver of cliche, they've donned a smug supercillous air of authority and respectability that they really, really have no business near. The stairs is the better option. Harder on the knees, easier on the stomache.

Aidric

If the Sindo was a TV station it would be TV3.
It has an unhealthy obsession with all things celebrity.
Brendan O Connor should not be penning pieces on topics he clearly knows nothing about.
The so called investigative pieces are a joke. I remember the one about cocaine, it was so fabricated I lol'd in the end.
Calling itself a broadsheet is a joke when it clearly has all the mentality of a red top rag.

lostexpectation

Dublin's Finest wrote: »

A million people don't.

being populist is why some people hate it.

questioner

Barry Egan - The man with his finger on the pulse of the national ****egeist. I nearly vomited when i read his piece canonising Monica Leech a week ago. Monica leech who is famous for most definitely NOT having an extra marital affair with our beloved Minister Cullen.
Brendan O Connor has elicited the occasional chuckle from me I must admit. Eoghan Harris is one of the most inconsistent hypocritical individuals i have ever come across in print, at one point, he has aligned himself with every political school in the known world. I saw him speak at a UCC debate last year and I was moved almost to tears by his overpowering smugness and air of superiority, truly we were mere mortals graced by the His, The Mustachioed Ones presence. What a knobjockey.

Bad and all as it is, it seems to find its way to the breakfast table on a sunday with irritating regularity. Courtesy of the parents of course.

As for a choice read on a sunday, hmm sunday tribune with Mick McCaffrey crime correspondent extraordinaire, good man mick, never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Sunday world? 'Nuff said.
Sunday Business post gets my vote.

irish_bob

while i accept that brendan o connor trades on obnoxiousness , if his hammerring of the public sector pays off , i say , well done

alan ruddock is an excellent writer , gene kerrigan adds a needed left wing angle , ruth dudley edwards is not afraid to say thing that are un pc , without being sensationalist i might add , so to elis o hanlon , my favourite writer though is declan lynch , i know on the surface his articles appear to be light relief but thier are always notes of wisdom in them , hes also a very humerous and warm writer
the sports section is also very good , what with hooky on rugby and the back page with eamon sweeney
all in all i like the sindo , ive bought the tribune and the business post but both are in my opinion lacking in charechter and leave me somewhat cold

jdivision

questioner wrote: »

Sunday Business post gets my vote.

I'd usually agree but it's been slipping. Two front page stories last Sunday had already been out.

Gekko

it went through a tabloidish, downmarket phase there during the summer.

But last Sunday in our house we had the SIndo, the Sunday Times, News of the World and the Irish Mail on Sunday. I read the Sunday Tribune and the SBP online.

For news and opinion, the SIndo was the best.

lostexpectation

see you said news and opinion, you lost me at the opinion bit, was it that it had more of it?

i dunno i think, got tribune in free in the door last weekend! good paper little bit stiff though.
the tribune doesn't give enough genreal news, little side columns telling you what happened around the country which the sindo does.

Shelflife

I think the sindo has become very lazy and the reason its numbers are remaining up is because of peoples reluctance to change, they get the indo because they always got the indo.

its the basic laziness where they make no attempt to check facts, in particular the liam lawlor story, even if it was true what they printed, it wasnt a story that was becoming of a "quality" broadsheet

jdivision

Gekko wrote: »

For news and opinion.

The Sindo writes news? Aside from Shane Ross's excellent FAS pieces I'd struggle to remember anything newsworthy they've written in years.

santosubito

jdivision wrote: »

The Sindo writes news? Aside from Shane Ross's excellent FAS pieces I'd struggle to remember anything newsworthy they've written in years.

There was always their scoop about Liam Lawlor's interpreter Julia Kushnir. Oh, no, wait...

*adopts stilted voice*

I read it so I can point and laugh at the columnists and judge them wrong

(nothing to do with the scurrilous allegation that I'm waiting for Niamh Horan and Sinead O'Riordan{name?} to elaborate on their living arrangements, involving bare-back fake tan application and getting oatmeal in the nude........)

mrsdewinter

Gekko wrote: »

For news and opinion, the SIndo was the best.

There's news in there? Apart from Kerrigan and Ruddock, I thought it was all the rehashed opinions of no-marks who read Wednesday's Telegraph. . .

You might complain about Brendan O'Connor's ubiquity but at least he can write. Not like those ninnies who assume we must be interested in what their, ahem, friends say and do.

In the end, even if you like the content, you have to agree that it's a mess. Haven't bought it in yonks but, ahem, a friend showed me the Barry Egan Xmas party magazine issue. I've seen better quality pictures in the parish newsletter.