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Am I weird?

  • 07-12-2008 9:14pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭


    I want to obsfucate, don't want to be known by people too much.
    I can use half-sincerity/sincerity which scares people sometimes I think.
    I don't want to thrust outwards or be contrived, I love the inner world too much. I want to go live somewhere obscure and discover unknown worlds.
    I also long to sum up my perceptions of beauty and somehow convey them in a screenplay/book.
    I f I can't do this I will be tormented it was a waste. I don't even want kids or a wife. I'm interested in the underbelly of life. Trouble is how to practically achieve what i want with moving, my art and managing a regular job.

    Am I really weird?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Affable wrote: »
    I want to obsfucate, don't want to be known by people too much.
    I can use half-sincerity/sincerity which scares people sometimes I think.
    I don't want to thrust outwards or be contrived, I love the inner world too much. I want to go live somewhere obscure and discover unknown worlds.
    I also long to sum up my perceptions of beauty and somehow convey them in a screenplay/book.
    I f I can't do this I will be tormented it was a waste. I don't even want kids or a wife. I'm interested in the underbelly of life. Trouble is how to practically achieve what i want with moving, my art and managing a regular job.

    Am I really weird?

    nope

    ive no interest in the girlfriend/wife/kids/nice house/high paying job in a city side of things either

    ideally id love to be able to move myself somewhere exceptionally remote and out of the way when i get to my 40s and live off the land after saving enough money to see me through any particularly rough patches

    people dont interest me, and because they dont interest me i dont think that i interest them so i rarely bother making any effort for small talk or chit chat or anything like that. plain and simple i dont want to talk to them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    In my experience, we're ALL weird.

    Embrace it ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭estar


    since you don't want people to know the real you anyway

    most of the greats were what other people would describe as weird or impossible to live with.

    however its good to be kind to others, and not make yourself too difficult to be around. no man is an island - and to be a really good writer or screen play writer you do need to understand people and emotions, otherwise your work will come across as contrived, as you won't be able to really convey a human reality.

    also having one major purpose, like writing a great screen play and seeing it all as worthless without that is a bit narrow in view. you dont have to be tortured to be talented.

    thats me tuppence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Affable wrote: »
    I want to obsfucate, don't want to be known by people too much.
    I can use half-sincerity/sincerity which scares people sometimes I think.
    I don't want to thrust outwards or be contrived, I love the inner world too much. I want to go live somewhere obscure and discover unknown worlds.
    I also long to sum up my perceptions of beauty and somehow convey them in a screenplay/book.
    I f I can't do this I will be tormented it was a waste. I don't even want kids or a wife. I'm interested in the underbelly of life. Trouble is how to practically achieve what i want with moving, my art and managing a regular job.

    Am I really weird?

    It doesn't sound like weird, it sounds more like apathy towards certain things.

    Have you popped into your GP for a visit lately? It kinda sounds a bit like depression to be honest but that's just my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,969 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    You must be highly intelligent, you write like a poet and I've no idea what obsfucate means.
    Your whole post screams intelligent thinker to me, you'll be ok

    I better brush up on my English :cool:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Affable


    You helped my ego miclo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭30txsbzmcu2k9w


    Affable wrote: »
    I want to obsfucate, don't want to be known by people too much.
    I can use half-sincerity/sincerity which scares people sometimes I think.
    I don't want to thrust outwards or be contrived, I love the inner world too much. I want to go live somewhere obscure and discover unknown worlds.
    I also long to sum up my perceptions of beauty and somehow convey them in a screenplay/book.
    I f I can't do this I will be tormented it was a waste. I don't even want kids or a wife. I'm interested in the underbelly of life. Trouble is how to practically achieve what i want with moving, my art and managing a regular job.

    Am I really weird?

    You;r just a creative person as far as i can see. Your not weird your just a tortured artist ;) Plenty of people can relate to your personality don't worry about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭Jack Sheehan


    Well I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at but no, you're not weird. Not any more than any of us anyway.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    micmclo wrote: »
    You must be highly intelligent, you write like a poet and I've no idea what obsfucate means.
    Your whole post screams intelligent thinker to me, you'll be ok

    I better brush up on my English :cool:

    Obsfucate doesn't mean anything as it's not a word, obfuscate however......:)

    OP, you're not weird, you're just you. I am similar in a lot of ways actually, just do what makes you happy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Affable


    Obsfucate doesn't mean anything as it's not a word, obfuscate however......:)

    OP, you're not weird, you're just you. I am similar in a lot of ways actually, just do what makes you happy.

    I seee from the profile you are up your own ass.

    Me too. Want to elaborate about your own ways?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    First off, I would like to apologise for my own start assyness, as obsfucate is a word, just not the word I thought you meant:)

    As for myself, I'd probably be considered a recluse, I'm happiest in my own company doing my own thing. To be honest I haven't put as much thought into it as it seems you have, but when I read your post I 'get' where you're coming from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭Karen_*


    I think you sound very self absorbed and very young. I, I, I etc...

    You think outside the box so embrace that. But you're not the only one outside the box. You're not as different as you think you are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,969 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Affable wrote: »
    You helped my ego miclo.

    I call you highly intelligent and you misspell my username, grrrr:mad:

    Ah no, just go look at your Post 1
    Written like a poet my friend

    I bet you are highly creative. If there is a subject you are interested in, I advise you to do it.
    www.nightcourses.ie

    I was just browsing the photography forum and was blown away by the skill over there. But I don't think that's you but for sure, you are highly capable in some creative way.
    Sure think about it and if you have an ambition to write maybe follow it up!
    Karen_* wrote: »
    But you're not the only one outside the box. You're not as different

    Outside the box...... :rolleyes:
    Corporate management speak has no place in this thread imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭ciano6


    First thing you should do is get rid of your mobile phone. If you have a car, lose it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Affable


    micmclo wrote: »
    I call you you highly intelligent and you misspell my username, grrrr:mad:

    Ah no, just go look at your Post 1
    Written like a poet my friend

    I bet you are highly creative. If there is a subject you are interested in, I advise you to do it.
    www.nightcourses.ie

    I was just just browsing the photography forum and was blown away by the skill over there. But I don't think that's you but for sure, you are highly capable in some creative way.
    Sure think about it and if you you have an ambition to write maybe, follow it up!

    Very kind of yuou thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,364 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    Helix wrote: »
    plain and simple i dont want to talk to them

    Says he with 5,200 posts!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    cantdecide wrote: »
    Says he with 5,200 posts!!!!

    typing isnt talking if we're going to get into semantics :p

    plus most of those are about football and videogames, where i talk whether anyones listening or not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Affable, you sound young and tortured. Can I ask you a question,do you somehow think you are better than other people? In my opinion you seem to be finding your way,yeah your thoughts seem to transcend the purely material but you are no different to the rest of us.Hell which of us would not like to opt out of this rat race and seemingly futile material existence we have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    Are you weird?

    Only if 'emo' is spelled W-E-I-R-D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I doubt Affable is an "emo",too mainstream don't you think.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Affable


    Anyone else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    You sound like an emotional teenager to be honest. You are in no way different to anyone else, we all have our own quirks.

    Relax

    R


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭doctor_gonzo


    You sound like an emotional teenager to be honest. You are in no way different to anyone else, we all have our own quirks.

    Relax

    I have to agree here, you do sound a bit 'emo' to be honest. You can live your life exactly how you want to without being weird. Truth is we're all a bit weird in our own ways! I'd suggest you chill out, learn to be a bit more lighthearted. It sounds to me like you need to laugh a bit more, and try to ditch the tortured persona, it's only going to bring you down in the longrun.

    Your first post suggests to me that you have a wee bit of a superiority complex when it comes to other people. Try to remember that everyone's unique and just because you feel you're a bit arty, doesn't mean you're the only one in the world with dreams and ambitions. Try to work on your social skills and connect with people a bit more, even if you don't want to. Personal development is about stepping out of your comfort zone...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭Queencake


    Yup emo. I'm guessing you're young.

    I've seen tons of people who are painfully emo become a lot happier once they stop overthinking things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 533 ✭✭✭SpookyDoll


    lol

    I think you really, badly want to be weird....but I dont think you are.....!

    Are you perchance a teenager?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,170 ✭✭✭Grawns


    Pretentious vous! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Gone Drinking


    Helix wrote: »
    nope

    ive no interest in the girlfriend/wife/kids/nice house/high paying job in a city side of things either

    ideally id love to be able to move myself somewhere exceptionally remote and out of the way when i get to my 40s and live off the land after saving enough money to see me through any particularly rough patches

    people dont interest me, and because they dont interest me i dont think that i interest them so i rarely bother making any effort for small talk or chit chat or anything like that. plain and simple i dont want to talk to them

    I don't think giving the op advice on your personal anti social disorder is a good thing. He's looking for a way to be creative, not a way to live life around the internet.

    But yea, you sound young. You'll have time for all these things, i wouldn't worry too much about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭Monkey61


    No you're not weird at all - you're just turning around your previous claims of an inferiority complex and trying to overcompensate by convincing yourself you are different and better than everyone else.

    If you want to write a book, do it. There's nobody stopping you. Toning down the pretentiousness would be a good place to start though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭McGinty


    I am going to say that we are all weird in our own way, but I would add don't throw out the whole relationship thing either. Maybe you don't like people, or are unnerved by soceity, but writer/ creative person does not = recluse. I write and I love people, yes I need alone time but I need people. See the thing is interaction with people is what give us our tensions/ frustrations, and now I am going to sound like a pretentious git and quote Joyce at you, well try to from memory, basically he said somewhere that Jesus didn't have the answers to life because he was never married. Joyce lived with a woman and experienced the frustation that came with it, and it gave an edge to his work, the isolated artist in my opinion has very little to offer, readers don't want to read your meanderings on the world, but they are interested in how you navigated your way around the world with all its problems, confusions, tension, pain, joy, love and so on. We only get those things through interaction with others, yes people are annoying but they are also joyful, amazing and great, and to be honest, if you didn't think that you would not be on this forum asking this question.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    2005-05-31-chris.jpg

    There's always this approach...

    "into the wild"


    Or you could sit in a painted black room and listen to my chemical romance and write poems about your feelings. But only the 'dark and edgy' ones.

    r


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭metrovelvet


    You sound like you want to be Morrissey.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    OK folks lets be a bit more helpful. I think we've established some of us consider the chap a particular way. More advise would be good or I'm a locking this thread.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 230 ✭✭JohnGalt


    I do think you are a bit weird. Maybe look at some other people in school or something and try to act more like them? Best of luck trying to be more normal mate


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Why the assumption the OP is young (and the preoccupation with it)? That's rather condescending.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Sarchasm


    JohnGalt wrote: »
    I do think you are a bit weird. Maybe look at some other people in school or something and try to act more like them? Best of luck trying to be more normal mate

    What?
    what the hell is normal. Don't try to be anything but yourself.

    I have to say I found your post incredibly hard to read. I like the fact that you're not up for small talk and not interested in kids and marriage or whatever. I don't like the word weird and I'd prefer to be thought of as weird rather than 'normal' or boring, but if you talk anything like you write, I'd probably think you were a bit up yourself or incredibly insecure. I'm doing a course in creative writing and none of the poets/writers I have met and talked to would ever come out with the kinds of stuff you wrote.

    It leads me to ask, are you happy and if you are, why do you care what people think?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭Valmont


    You're not weird at all don't worry. Just go easy on the Kafka/Sartre/Camus you've probably been reading. Get stuck into the Fountainhead, that'll sort you out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Donald-Duck


    Sarchasm wrote: »
    What?
    what the hell is normal. Don't try to be anything but yourself.

    I have to say I found your post incredibly hard to read. I like the fact that you're not up for small talk and not interested in kids and marriage or whatever. I don't like the word weird and I'd prefer to be thought of as weird rather than 'normal' or boring, but if you talk anything like you write, I'd probably think you were a bit up yourself or incredibly insecure. I'm doing a course in creative writing and none of the poets/writers I have met and talked to would ever come out with the kinds of stuff you wrote.

    It leads me to ask, are you happy and if you are, why do you care what people think?

    I agree with John, if he speaks to people the way he types I'd think he was a bit weird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    I think that if the OP is happy the way he lives, and this is what he wants to do then he's flying away and fair play!

    R


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    The people who are saying he's "emo" are being dreadfully presumptuous. Ok, I don't know what age he is, but from reading other posts of his over the past few months, I'd have assumed he was in his late 20s/early 30s.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Affable


    The trouble is that my creative need is so strong that I'm doing a course in screenwriting. I have no set career to pursue and I'm lookin for stop gap jobs that support my creativity. Is this totally unrealistic or should I hang on to the dream? I've been unemployed a lot but I dont feel ashamed. I think ?I'm an obsessive but I strive to hard sometimes which troubles me. Am I lacking in savvy, am I naive or liable to be used at work?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Affable wrote: »
    The trouble is that my creative need is so strong that I'm doing a course in screenwriting. I have no set career to pursue and I'm lookin for stop gap jobs that support my creativity. Is this totally unrealistic or should I hang on to the dream? I've been unemployed a lot but I dont feel ashamed. I think ?I'm an obsessive but I strive to hard sometimes which troubles me. Am I lacking in savvy, am I naive or liable to be used at work?

    I have friend that seems to be in a similar place as you.

    He always talks about how smart he is and how much smarter he is than other people he knows who have their degree from college - yet he won't get off his ass and go back to college himself.

    Yes he's a smart fellow, but he's not smart enough to use these smarts.

    Now you say you're a creative chap, use this creativity to support yourself and to set out a few clear goals for yourself. Then work to acheive these goals.

    I'm sure the last thing you'd want to become is one of those people who talk and talk about how gifted they are yet they don't seem to be gifted enough to actually use their great gift.

    Only you can make things happen for yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Affable


    The confusion I now have is that I'm drawn to the enigmatic and mysterious and the creative but I don't know if it's unrealistic and I should be practically minded, in heading for a more conventional career that I can succeed at or make money from, I don't know if my artistic goals are unrealistic...how do great creative people reach productivity?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Captain Ginger


    Hi OP, I don't know how old you are, but my advice would be the following.

    To follow pretty much any dream you need money, so why not work for a few years, put some money to the side and save up so you can fund this dream of yours. I don't think your dream is by any means unrealistic providing you lay down the appropriet foundations for it so it's structred.

    Anyway, as to you being weird or not? You're not, my father like to collect old clocks, some people would think that's weird, I myself when at a party will go off by myself for an amount of time to get some alone time, some people may think that's weird, but it's not, we all do things differntly.

    Anyway, best of luck with the dream, and remember, nothing ventured nothing gained.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    Affable wrote: »
    The confusion I now have is that I'm drawn to the enigmatic and mysterious and the creative but I don't know if it's unrealistic and I should be practically minded, in heading for a more conventional career that I can succeed at or make money from, I don't know if my artistic goals are unrealistic...how do great creative people reach productivity?

    LSD my friend


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Affable


    Anyone else?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Affable wrote: »
    I don't know if my artistic goals are unrealistic...how do great creative people reach productivity?
    Hard work and practical application of that work. If you look at great artists throughout history in most cases hard graft and honing of the talent they had is what got them where they needed to go. Even someone like van gogh, the doyen of "tortured artists" was pretty crap when he started. His sketches are clumsy and banal. His paintings are muddy and badly executed. He worked and worked and worked and got better. Few enough of them were the hollywood notion of feckless drifters who got lucky. Very very very few.

    I remember seeing an interview with john lennon and him saying about how he had just drifted through life and gotten lucky. Later on he was remarking how much they worked on their craft and that anyone would have been successful with their work level. Now false modesty aside he wasn't far wrong. Sgt peppers took six months to record. This isn't the year between each U2 or whomever release. They were in the studio 6 days a week 10 to 16 hours a day for six months solid. Jimi hendrix apparently used to bring his guitar to the jax ffs.:)

    You could say the same of all successful writers, scientists(great science I would consider an "art" too), musicians, painters, film directors, sculptors, you name it, in the artistic canon. They all found a niche and worked hard and spent long hours honing it. Some may call it god given talent, but comes to its highest expression through man hours.

    So you may have a talent. I don't know which one it is. You may not know yourself, but in order to find out you have to do as well as think. In fact do more than you think.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Sean_K advocating illegal drug use is hardly helpful advice. Please read the charter. Ta

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Sean_K advocating illegal drug use is hardly helpful advice. Please read the charter. Ta
    apologies...where's that tongue in cheek smilie when you need it:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    If you really want to move to a remote location away from other people why do you want input from people on this board?
    It seems to me that in fact you crave the very opposite of what you say and are using this forum to achieve that.
    Nothing wrong with that. It is a phase most teeagerss go through


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