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Mercedes C250 CDI Blue Efficency
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06-12-2008 4:16pm#1
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I disagree with the first statement. Lots of people are happy to buy manual C-Classes. E class is different, they're better off Auto. The new C-Class is getting excellent reviews. It's something different too, everyone is going for A4, 3-series and IS220.I agree. You just simply cannot buy a manual Merc. Nobody will ever want it when you want to sell it. And the new C250 CDI is manual only for the time being.
320ds are great cars, but a 330d is only €302 to tax even though it's a 3.0 with 245 bhp:eek:! That's the model to go for really, I know it's €55k and everything but that engine sounds amazing, it even revs like a petrol if the press are to be believed.
As for the BMW, the 325d has only 20 bhp more than the 320d, but it does have 6 cylinders which makes all the difference, though admittedly I've never driven a 6 pot BMW diesel. I have driven 4 and 6 pot petrol BMWs though, and I'm sure the gap is as big with the diesels as it is with the petrols.
However, as I outlined in a response above, I'd be looking at the 330d. All that extra power, a brand new engine and it's even a little better than the 325d on CO2 as well.
On the 4 vs 6 cyl diesels - The 6 cylinder in the diesel doesn't make near as much difference as it does in petrol. You're better off with a 320d over a 325d. The 325 is bearly more refined sounding, feck all more powerful and just more expensive to buy and run and will take a bigger hit on depreciation.
I hear what you're saying about the 330d alright, but €15k extra is an awful lot of money when you don't have it!
330d's now can be had for similar money to 320d's if you look at 5 or 6 year old ones, meaning that that €15k difference is swallowed up. However it will be a different ball game in 5 years from now, as the 330d won't cost nearly €1200 a year to tax for a 5 year old one unlike today!0 -
I disagree with the first statement. Lots of people are happy to buy manual C-Classes. E class is different, they're better off Auto. The new C-Class is getting excellent reviews. It's something different too, everyone is going for A4, 3-series and IS220.
On the 4 vs 6 cyl diesels - The 6 cylinder in the diesel doesn't make near as much difference as it does in petrol. You're better off with a 320d over a 325d. The 325 is bearly more refined sounding, feck all more powerful and just more expensive to buy and run and will take a bigger hit on depreciation.
I hear what you're saying about the 330d alright, but €15k extra is an awful lot of money when you don't have it!
330d's now can be had for similar money to 320d's if you look at 5 or 6 year old ones, meaning that that €15k difference is swallowed up. However it will be a different ball game in 5 years from now, as the 330d won't cost nearly €1200 a year to tax for a 5 year old one unlike today!
Fair enough - tbh I probably wouldn't be going for a 325d myself either.
At that end of the scale it would be the petrol every time.
Btw, the 330d is actually around €10.5k more than a comparable 320d. The 320d SE is €44,620 and the 330d SE is €55,030. The 325d SE is €49,410 while the 325i SE is €50,970.
If I had the money though, then even I would probably be choosing the 330d. If it revs like a petrol and has a 5,400 rpm rev limiter then I'm sure I could put up without 6 cylinder petrol noise(especially as this new diesel engine doesn't clatter either apparently), €302 road tax, 50 mpg average fuel economy and 245 bhp will do nicely thanks:D.0 -
If nobody bought new cars, there'd be no second hand cars to buy!
Amen, and + 1000 on that.Why not buy second hand and give the remander to charity.
I just hate seeing people throw that much money away. Madness.
VRT will be cut in time - the gov will have no choice. It has artificially inflated new car prices well beyond what they are worth.
Financially, it's madness to buy a new car these days.
Spend it on a nice holiday.
It doesn't matter if you have the money or not.
Weird logic......it's ok to waste (?) the money on a holiday, but not a car? (which'll generate local business and tax revenue, and jobs, btw...)
Nobody buys new cars for cash, they're mostly bought on finance of some sort, so 'giving to charity' is complete nonsense - the cash isn't a suitcase in the first place......
You've had all the VRT decreases you will see in your lifetime, methinks - it's only going one way from here on in.............just you watch...
And as for 'if you have the money or not' - are you for real ? Try as I might, but I don't think I can buy a car without the money.Maybe hold out for the new E-Class.
Hard to believe that rear end was designed in this millennium.
Er, no, don't....:eek:
Hard to belive it's not Hyundai Sonata, more like !! Sweet and gentle God, did the they fire the new C-Class designer already, or did they poach BeeEmm's ex-SsangYong/Rexton Actyon designer, then X6 designer, or what......???
Or maybe they settled for the KIA Magenta guy??
Oh, I see they 'robbed' the Lexus exhaust-tip designer too.........Ode To The Motorist
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