My 1st time putting a pc together.

BaRcOe

I only have a little bit of experience changin video cards, ram, sound cards..etc

I am now in great need of a new pc. Ive been on Komplett.ie researching all the pc components that I would like.
I need help knowing if all of these components will work with eachother,
is 500w enough to power it all?
Will the motherboard fit in my chosen Case?
will x2 CPU go in this motherboard, it did say Customers also bought: Then I clicked that cpu so it will be compatible?
500gb for 60 quid, I know that will be enough for me but is it good price?

Total is 456.37. That seems resonable. Vista and security I will handle at a later date.

This is just a rough draft now, I am hoping to get this done for xmas if I can get the money..etc

Thanks in advance

Here are the components I selected. Will all of these click together?

RAM: Crucial DDR2 PC4200 4096MB CL4,
Kit w/two matched DDR2 PC4200 2048MB CL4

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4,nForce 570 SLI,ATX
,Socket-AM2,GbLAN,DDR2,Firew, 2xPCI-Ex16

Video card: Point of View GeForce 9400GT 1GB,
DDR2, PCI-Express, 1xDVI, HDMI

Case/Powersupply: Antec Sonata III Miditower, Black
w/500W PSU

HD: Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB SATA2
16MB 7200RPM


CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ 3.0GHz Socket AM2
2MB, BOXED w/fan

cd/dvd: Sony NEC Optiarc DVD±RW burner AD-7200A,
20x, IDE, Black, bulk
Can I copy/burn my cds with this? I dont care abour dvds.

do all cables come with them?
I want 4 gigs of Ram, any tips or is the ram ive chosen compatible?

TerrorFirmer

- CPU isn't the best choice, not the worst if you don't overclock as it offers decent stock performance but an Intel E5200 is a much better cpu and costs the same - not to mention overclocks like a daemon.

- Video card is a terrible choice regardless of whether you're gaming or not. As a general purpose card it's a waste of money....that card can't make use of more then about 256mb memory so you're paying for 1gb of useless onboard memory. As a gaming card, it's crap for the same reasons - you're paying much more then the standard price because of the 1gb memory which can't even be used, and it's a low end card anyway. It's a marketing ploy. If you're not gaming then this is much more suitable, if you are gaming, then this is much better at the same price point. You should benefit hugely from going a few extra euro to this, it absolutely trounces all Nvidia competition at the price point.

- The 500w PSU will power it all and that's a good case/psu combo.

- Ram is OK and will work but if you plan overclocking you'll need better stuff really.

BaRcOe

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

- CPU isn't the best choice, not the worst if you don't overclock as it offers decent stock performance but an Intel E5200 is a much better cpu and costs the same - not to mention overclocks like a daemon.

- Video card is a terrible choice regardless of whether you're gaming or not. As a general purpose card it's a waste of money....that card can't make use of more then about 256mb memory so you're paying for 1gb of useless onboard memory. As a gaming card, it's crap for the same reasons - you're paying much more then the standard price because of the 1gb memory which can't even be used, and it's a low end card anyway. It's a marketing ploy. If you're not gaming then this is much more suitable, if you are gaming, then this is much better at the same price point. You should benefit hugely from going a few extra euro to this, it absolutely trounces all Nvidia competition at the price point.

- The 500w PSU will power it all and that's a good case/psu combo.

- Ram is OK and will work but if you plan overclocking you'll need better stuff really.

Nice1 terror, Ive made the changes. I have never overclocked a pc, i dont even know how so thats out of the question.

So do u wreckon I am ready to check out with them changes youve recommended?
Im just afraid of getting something that doesnt fit the mother board, the mother board cant handle something..etc?;) is it really that simple? One final Noob question, I presume the components all come with the necessary cables? You dont recommend me buying different ones or anything?

What about this:
Sony NEC Optiarc DVD±RW burner AD-7200A,
20x, IDE, Black, bulk

will i be able to burn cds on it?
it it compatible with the case..etc?

Will The intel cpu u suggested definately work with this motherboard because in the motherboads' description it keeps mentioning AMD??
It says
Compatible Processors Athlon 64, Sempron, Athlon 64 FX, Athlon 64 X2

So i have to get the AMD?

Do I have to buy a fan as it says the cpu come s w/fan?

TerrorFirmer

No - you need an Intel 775 board as well to match the CPU! This'd be fine, cheap and reliable.

Motherboard comes with all the necessary cables.

The DVD will work but you're better off getting a sata model like this rather then ide, much tidier. But either will work.

Throw up a complete list when you've got everything picked out and we can double check it then before you buy.

BaRcOe

Ok will do,
The final thing I am missing is the fan. Does the motherboard come with a fan for the cpu or do I have to get a certain type of fan for a certain type of motherboard/cpu?
I read the FAQ but it didnt really explain fans. What fan do you advise me to get?

this
NorthQ 3312BL Giant UFO, 120mm Fan, Blue

this

Thermaltake Golden Orb II CPU Cooler,
Blue Light, 17dBA Socket 775/754/939/940

or this?
Zalman CNPS7700-AICu CPU-Cooler
Socket 478/775/754/939/940

Do you get thermal paste with the cpu?

TerrorFirmer

CPU comes with the fan, nothing else needed - thermal paste is pre-applied to the fan heatsink. If you want, you can buy a different fan other then the stock Intel one, depending on how quiet/efficiently cooled you want your PC to be. Personally I usually just use the Intel fan, not overly loud and does an OK job.

BaRcOe

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

CPU comes with the fan, nothing else needed - thermal paste is pre-applied to the fan heatsink. If you want, you can buy a different fan other then the stock Intel one, depending on how quiet/efficiently cooled you want your PC to be. Personally I usually just use the Intel fan, not overly loud and does an OK job.

Alrite, I gotcha.
Ill pop up what I hope to be a final draft later on and we'll see if itl work out
Thanks Terror, you've been of great help to me!:cool:;)

TerrorFirmer

No problem, happy to help. Even if I'm supposed to be studying right now.

BaRcOe

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

No problem, happy to help. Even if I'm supposed to be studying right now.

ha same:D

BaRcOe

Here it is..
Do these components have the potential of becoming a powerful pc with its
big 500gb hd,
high performance with 4GB of RAM, Intel pentium dual core 2.5 Ghz cpu
and 1GB Radeon HD graphics card?
All being powered by the electrifying antec sonata PSU of 500w? only 450 quid from komplett.

Clarification is needed on making sure my motherboard can work all of these components together as ONE so I can go off and do some Pwnage.

http://www.komplett.ie/k/shoplist.aspx?mode=receive&si=650593&su=DFBCA999-A008-43E6-A433-1FA09B60737A

Ready to check out?

BaRcOe

Do you wreckon I should by a tool kit? I suppose I should!?

TerrorFirmer

Excellent build. the only thing I will say to you is that if you're even a bit of overclocking you'll want faster ram. For just ten euro extra this really is much better ram.

Other then that solid build, thumbs up!

Oh and forget the tool kit, I've been using the same single screwdriver for my builds for about 2 years. Will never need anything other then a philips head...you'll get a small precision kit in any DIY store for about 2 euro.

BaRcOe

Do all the required screws come with the case/motherboard...?:rolleyes:

Kirby

yes. Between your case and your motherboard, there should be loads of screws to mount your board, fans, hard drives, etc. More than you will need, dont worry.

cian1500ww

Looks great mate, best of luck with it !!!

BaRcOe

Help im confused my motherboard dissapeared from my shopping list.
I think its due to going into the Clearance category.

Is this the same motherboard yous recommended cause i cant remember?
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=344812

Its only 30 quid. Thats seems a bit of a drastic drop?waaaaa will it perform fine?

Wait I just seen that it says
!!! Card only !!! (Drivers, cables, brackets, manual, IO shield ++ is not included!)
so screw that.

What motherboard should i get now. Im running tight on money. Need a cheap reliable one.
maybe this for €73. iS going any cheaper a bit risky?

cian1500ww

Only difference is that one has a P31 chipset whereas the other has a G31 chipset. Should be ok.

TerrorFirmer

They only had the one in stock so it must have been relegated to clearance for whatever reason, I doubt they happened to sell that one and suddenly come into a b-grade item on the same day. Going cheaper is never risky once you know what you want and you don't expect more of the board then it can deliver. None of the brands Komplett stock would really be ones I'd be wary of in terms of general quality, only features.