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How would Ireland fare in the premiership??

  • 01-12-2008 9:21pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭


    If the Irish squad was a club squad in English football would they last in the premiership?

    I don't think they could compete for a champions league spot but would they avoid relegation?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    I would say mid-table maybe lower. Alot of our players play in the championship.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    they'd be at their natural level, the championship.

    sure isn't that where most of them play anyway.

    there, or in a premier league team's reserve team.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    Here's a list of all Irish players who have made at least one premiership appearance in season 2008-09
    G Given (Newcastle)
    
    D Obrien (Bolton)
    D Mcshane (Hull)
    D Dunne (Man City)
    D O'Shea (Man U)
    
    M Treacy (Blackburn)
    M Andrews (Blackburn)
    M Reid (Blackburn)
    M Obrien (Bolton)
    M Ireland (Man City)
    M Gibson (Man U)
    M Duff (Newcastle)
    M Whelan (Stoke)
    M Lawrence (Stoke)
    M Delap (Stoke)
    M Reid (Sunderland)
    M Miller (Sunderland)
    M Kilbane (Wigan)
    
    F Folan (Hull)
    F Keane (Liverpool)
    F Stokes (Sunderland)
    F Murphy (Sunderland)
    
    Ironically the position where we have the most players featuring is in midfield but you can see the majority of them are in teams that are on a one way trip to the championship (8x at Blackburn, Stoke, Sunderland etc). Plus there's too many weaknesses in all positions (1 goalkeeper, 1 serious striker, barely enough players to make a recognisable back-4) to contemplate having the sort of squad that would survive in the Premiership. As such I'd envisage that panel (even if playing week in week out) getting relegated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Bottom 4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Pigman II wrote: »
    Here's a list of all Irish players who have made at least one premiership appearance in season 2008-09
    G Given (Newcastle)
    
    D Obrien (Bolton)
    D Mcshane (Hull)
    D Dunne (Man City)
    D O'Shea (Man U)
    
    M Treacy (Blackburn)
    M Andrews (Blackburn)
    M Reid (Blackburn)
    M Obrien (Bolton)
    M Ireland (Man City)
    M Gibson (Man U)
    M Duff (Newcastle)
    M Whelan (Stoke)
    M Lawrence (Stoke)
    M Delap (Stoke)
    M Reid (Sunderland)
    M Miller (Sunderland)
    M Kilbane (Wigan)
    
    F Folan (Hull)
    F Keane (Liverpool)
    F Stokes (Sunderland)
    F Murphy (Sunderland)
    
    Ironically the position where we have the most players featuring is in midfield but you can see the majority of them are in teams that are on a one way trip to the championship (8x at Blackburn, Stoke, Sunderland etc). Plus there's too many weaknesses in all positions (1 goalkeeper, 1 serious striker) to contemplate having the sort of squad that would survive in the Premiership. As such I'd envisage that panel (even if playing week in week out) getting relegated.


    Ireland doesn't play for Ireland ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    I reckon if we could Sign Stephen Ireland from Citeh we might avoid relegation...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    my initial reaction was we'd be relegated, but on thinking about it, if we could keep our first 11 fit, we might push for a Uefa Cup spot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Stephen Ireland would probably score 5 against us every time.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Given, Dunne, O'Shea, Finnan, Carsley, S.Reid, A.Reid, Duff, Keane, Doyle are all proven at least mid table level imo. In fact there's probably the biggest question mark over Duff's level out of those above players and he's well proven himself as one of our best players, still. McGeady, Garvan, Foley and S.Hunt could all well make a mid table team imo and there's a good chance a they all will be this time next year (well much of a muchness if McGeady stays or goes). Off the top of my head I'd say the best of the rest are bottom half premiership level to top championship level atm.

    Not including S.Ireland obviously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Imo, our best eleven currently (assuming everyone wants / can play):

    Given
    Finnan
    O' Shea
    Dunne
    Kilbane
    Duff
    Carsley
    Ireland
    McGeady
    Doyle
    Keane

    Decent options:

    Kiely, Delap, Hunt, Reid, Reid, Whelan, O' Brien, Murphy, Folan, Garvan,

    Being entirely honest, that squad stays up. If it runs well with injury and suspensions - it is comfortably mid table.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    If it was a case of an all-Ireland team we would definitely stay up as we would have Johnny Evans in central defence.(Single handedly got sunderland promoted and kept them up, now they can't defend without him)
    Otherwise I'd say we'd be relegation battlers.

    Team to include J.Evans & S.Ireland

    GK: Given
    RB: O'Shea
    CB: Dunne
    CB: Evans
    LB: McCartney
    DM:S.Reid
    RM:McGeady
    CAM:S.Ireland
    LM: Duff
    CF:K.Doyle
    CF:R.Keane

    Squad Players
    Taylor,Brunt,Kilbane,McShane,Gibson,Fahey,McGinn,McCourt,2 Hunts, Folan etc.

    Actually might do well enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Champions easy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Bottom half, but wouldn't be relegated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Championship easy.

    FYP


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We'd get relegated. You have to remember the standard at club level is much higher nowadays than international (except maybe in the top 1%).


    That said, with Trap in charge, we'd win the lot!! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭Idu


    Relegated. We don't score enough goals


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