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RWC 2011 Draw today Dec 1st

  • 01-12-2008 9:47am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭


    The RWC 2011 draw for the pools takes place today in London - I think it's on SS.
    Should be interesting, hoping for a good pool for Ireland
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Serenity Now!


    It is live online at the IRB website.
    3pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,288 ✭✭✭crisco10


    We are in with Aus, Ita and the second qualifiers from america and europe. im happy. avoided scotland. Could have been a lot worse. Hopefully those two qualifiers will be weak enough we can field a second string team confidently. and Italy don't improve loads by then!

    Arg, Eng and Sco in same group. funtimes.

    France and NZ and tonga. And finally SA, Wales and Fiji.

    What you guys think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭kodmuffin


    So ireland got australia and italy..........what do people think?!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,138 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Decent draw for Ireland. Italy shouldn't be a major problem - though one imagines they will be better again in three years time. Aus are the best team to get out of the big 3, though for once I would have liked to have gotten Argentina.

    Wales get Fiji again :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 312 ✭✭Cuchulain


    Italy and Australia....could have been worse.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,288 ✭✭✭crisco10


    Podge_irl wrote: »

    Wales get Fiji again :D

    Be hilarious if wales repeated the same mistakes 4 years on. and yes it felt odd to be wishing for argentina...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭MikeHoncho


    Australia, Italy, America 2 and Europe 2. It could be worse. Thought we were gonna end up with The Argies again for a minute which probably would have been preferable. France and New Zealand in the same group is nasty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 Rourky


    Do we stand a chance this time round?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭Amz


    Threads merged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Noopti


    Yeah, not bad. Happy enough with that, would have preferred Argentina though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭anonymous_joe


    Hmmm.

    Think the All Blacks have the easiest group on paper, and manage to get their perennial bogey team early. If they lose to France it'll be in the first game, so I can see them going on and ploughing through for the win.

    Australia have the smallest player base in the Tri-Nations and we always give them a good game, so that's a relief. Europe 2 is probably going to be Georgia/Romania/Russia so that won't be fun. America 2 will almost certainly be Canada, can't see Uruguay beating them.

    Does Pool A's winner play Pool C's Runner up? A New Zealand QF would suck balls.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,138 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    We're unlikely to beat Aus, but they are the second best team we could have gotten after Arg I think. I presume the quarters will be AvB and CvD in which case we'll then likely be against SA, which would be tough. If we beat Aus we'd likely have Wales, which would be interesting.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,138 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Australia have the smallest player base in the Tri-Nations and we always give them a good game, so that's a relief. Europe 2 is probably going to be Georgia/Romania/Russia so that won't be fun. America 2 will almost certainly be Canada, can't see Uruguay beating them.

    Does Pool A's winner play Pool C's Runner up? A New Zealand QF would suck balls.

    Is America 1 not Canada and America 2 USA? Canada are by far the better team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭anonymous_joe


    I'm not sure actually. Might be now that you say it. Either/or both are teams we'd hope to be able to beat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭subfreq


    I think Australia are a team that is in a strong building phase and expect them to have a much stronger tight five by 2011. Italy wont bother either Aus or Ireland.

    The real question is who do we face in the second round. Which other group are we twinned with?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,410 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    no reason why we could not top the group. The thing is would we want to.. now i dont no what the first game is but if say we play aus last do we put everything we have into trying to win the game but they have nothing left for the QF weather we win or lose?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    According to the BBC, A pairs with B and C pairs with D for the quarters, meaning if we qualify for the quarters it will be one of South Africa, Wales or Fiji.

    England may have a good group, but they're pretty much guaranteed to play either the All Blacks or France in the quarters.

    Don't know what happens for the semis though.

    Edit:
    Quarter Final 1: Winner Pool B v Runner-up Pool A
    Quarter Final 2: Winner Pool C v Runner-up Pool D
    Quarter Final 3: Winner Pool A v Runner-up Pool B
    Quarter Final 4: Winner Pool D v Runner-up Pool C

    Semi-Final 1: Winner QF1 v Winner QF2
    Semi-Final 2: Winner QF3 v Winner QF4

    Bronze Final: Loser SF1 v Loser SF2

    Final: Winner SF1 v Winner SF2

    Taken from IRB.com. So if we top the group, it's possibly Wales in the quarters and probably England and the runner up of France/New Zealand in the semis.

    If we finish second (more than likely happen) it's probably South Africa in the quarters and then the All Blacks in the semis, assuming they top the group and go on to beat the runner up of Scotland/England/Argentina.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭subfreq


    OK so winner in Pool C plays Runner up in Pool D which will likely be Wales.

    Runner up plays winner in Pool D which will be South Africa for the Quarter Finals.

    Topping the group will be pretty much vital to progressing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭toomevara


    Good group, no complaints. I, for one am fecking delighted that we don't play the Argies, because frankly the whole Ireland/Argentina thing is becoming a nasty and tiresome little pantomime..We should definitely be looking to top that group.

    NZ/France group pairing fascinating...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭subfreq


    The NZ/France side of the draw is certainly an easier path through to the Semi's for both teams.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭ALH-06


    subfreq wrote: »
    OK so winner in Pool C plays Runner up in Pool D which will likely be Wales.

    Runner up plays winner in Pool D which will be South Africa for the Quarter Finals.

    Topping the group will be pretty much vital to progressing.


    I'm not so sure. Wales should have beaten South Africa in the AIs. They've got a great team that will, for the most part, have reached their prime for 2011. Gatland will give them the required consistency. Wales could well be the team to beat in 3 years time...

    Both Wales and South Africa are gonna be very tough in the QFs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭ALH-06


    But this draw could have gone so much worse...!

    I'm pretty relieved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,410 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    Hmmm the AB's with home advantage and everything... i hope france beat them in theri own back yard... anyone no when tickets gto on sale?.. im thinking 2010?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭sm.org


    ALH-06 wrote: »
    I'm not so sure. Wales should have beaten South Africa in the AIs. They've got a great team that will, for the most part, have reached their prime for 2011. Gatland will give them the required consistency. Wales could well be the team to beat in 3 years time...

    Both Wales and South Africa are gonna be very tough in the QFs.

    SA, Wales, Fiji and Samoa. Thats are pretty physical group. Cant see Wales coming out of it without 4/5 injuries. Have they got the squad to deal with those number of injuries?

    Should be a fascinating group.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭LightningBolt


    I'm pretty happy with the draw that we got. No complaints.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,987 ✭✭✭✭zAbbo


    If Italy play like they did in '07 we'd be OK, but I guess out of the 4 top teams - Aus isn't too bad.

    Could have been worse I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    All depends on the advancement in cloning in the next 4 years for im afraid if Italy master that and fill their squad 1-30 with the clones of Parise we'd be screwed :p

    In all seriousness it depends on what Mallet can do with them between now and the RWC dont forget people what happened at Ravnehill where we luckily got a try awarded to us (wrong decision imo) at the stroke of full time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭RugbyFanatic


    Personally I would have preferred getting NZ in our group so we wouldn't have to face them again until the final.

    I reckon on our day we can beat any other team and then in a final anything can happen (thats if NZ aren't knocked out by that time which judging from the past isn't rare)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭Fishtits


    The Aussies seem to be happy with it...

    http://www.rugbyheaven.com.au/news/world-cup/wallabies-get-dream-draw-for-nz-tournament/2008/12/02/1227979969299.html

    Just the press, I presume the squad won't be as assuming... :rolleyes:

    Long time away.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    Pff, if I was an Ozzie, looking on our past 18 months performance, i'd be assuming we're blessed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 132 ✭✭88show


    twinytwo wrote: »
    Hmmm the AB's with home advantage and everything... i hope france beat them in theri own back yard... anyone no when tickets gto on sale?.. im thinking 2010?

    it won't happen.
    1st batch in my club back home go on sale late 09


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    88show wrote: »
    it won't happen.
    1st batch in my club back home go on sale late 09
    I've heard that before.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 132 ✭✭88show


    Sangre wrote: »
    I've heard that before.

    i've gotten all my tix for the last 5 yrs since i've been in ireland from them.
    for ab tours and home tri nation game when I was back home holidaying thanks.
    last tix were croke and munster game.

    so now you've heard it again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 323 ✭✭High&Low


    Sangre wrote: »
    I've heard that before.
    88show wrote: »
    i've gotten all my tix for the last 5 yrs since i've been in ireland from them.
    for ab tours and home tri nation game when I was back home holidaying thanks.
    last tix were croke and munster game.

    so now you've heard it again

    I think he may be for refering to your comment "it won't happen" i.e. the French beating NZ yet again!!!!!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    Its a good enough draw for Ireland - we should come out of the group at least this time!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 233 ✭✭cmcsoft


    Very happy with the draw, like a lot of posters mentioned Argentina might have been better. If we can manage to beat the aussies we should get Wales in the quarter. A lot of work needs to be done between here and then though. Still a good start though with the draw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,772 ✭✭✭toomevara


    cmcsoft wrote: »
    . If we can manage to beat the aussies we should get Wales in the quarter.

    ...if not,probably the AB's......*shudder*.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    toomevara wrote: »
    ...if not,probably the AB's......*shudder*.....

    No it would be SA although if the world cup was played in the morning id expect Wales to actually top the group tbh and anyway alot of this speculation is a bit silly alot can and will change in three years and the teams we face in 2011 will be very different to the current teams.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Our QF match will be either SA or Wales. if we get through.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,138 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Our QF match will be either SA or Wales. if we get through.

    Or Fiji ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 231 ✭✭ThomasH


    Our QF match will be either SA or Wales. if we get through.
    Have a wee bit more faith :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭Hamo


    This draw has to be our most preferred, the Aussies are always capable of folding, its been us who panic, Decky should sort that one out though... besides we still owe them for robbing us at Qtr final in Lansdowne road, jez it still annoys me, especially when I see the culprit on Sky Sports....

    Best bet is a Semi final place!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    I reckon we should do better than the last WC, touch wood. The mistakes that were made the last time must be learned from, and not repeated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭anonymous_joe


    While I agree that it's a nice looking draw, it's 3 years from now...

    The world of rugby can and will change a lot in that time frame.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    I reckon we should do better than the last WC, touch wood.




    Would it be possible to do much worse?


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