Weightlifting Club

shanedownfall

I'm considering setting up this society. Areas covered would include bodybuilding, powerlifting, olympic lifting, and strong man, any other suggestions are of course welcomed.

Anyone interested?

Cheers
Shane

Ste.phen

You should talk to LGBT, I hear they share many of your aims. ;-)

shanedownfall

Ste.phen wrote: »

You should talk to LGBT, I hear they share many of your aims. ;-)

I presume you're referring to the bodybuilding! Not really of much interest to me, but I think it's best to leave it open to people who are.

You're proper funny btw

An Citeog

Afaik, a few years ago they (ie. then SU vice president Damien McLoughlin) tried to set up a weightlifting club under the guise of gaining access to the elite gym. If you got enough people interested, there'd be no problem setting up the club but if you're looking for access to the elite gym (which I assume you are because the normal gym has fúck all free weights, no power racks etc), you'll have a hard job convincing the University Sports Club. If I were you, that'd be my first step.

shanedownfall

An Citeog wrote: »

Afaik, a few years ago they (ie. then SU vice president Damien McLoughlin) tried to set up a weightlifting club under the guise of gaining access to the elite gym. If you got enough people interested, there'd be no problem setting up the club but if you're looking for access to the elite gym (which I assume you are because the normal gym has fúck all free weights, no power racks etc), you'll have a hard job convincing the University Sports Club. If I were you, that'd be my first step.

I've already got access myself, but I'll be trying to get access for members. I'd say it would be possible, even if it's only at certain times. It might be required that members do training before they get in, but it would be worth it in the end.

I won't start looking about that until I see that there is actually people interested.

An Citeog

shanedownfall wrote: »

I've already got access myself, but I'll be trying to get access for members. I'd say it would be possible, even if it's only at certain times. It might be required that members do training before they get in, but it would be worth it in the end.

I won't start looking about that until I see that there is actually people interested.

It might be possible but I still think it'd be your biggest obstacle to setting up the club.

I'd be 100% certain that there would be more than 25 (think that's what you need) people interested. Access to the elite gym for €3/4 for the year is a no-brainer!:D I've already got access myself but I'd definitely be interested in joining aswell, mainly for access to discounted supps and for people to train with, advice, that extra motivation etc.

Nothingcompares

the name is a bit gay but otherwise i give it my 100% support.

can you get powerlifting and weightlifting coaches?

Malteaser!

shanedownfall wrote: »

I'm considering setting up this society. Areas covered would include bodybuilding, powerlifting, olympic lifting, and strong man, any other suggestions are of course welcomed.

Anyone interested?

Cheers
Shane

It seems a bit broad to me. All of those sports are TOTALLY different to one another, I guess I just don't see how it would be set-up?

Like will you just be trying to get access to the elite gym for the members and then letting them do their own thing? Or will it be group training sessions? Entering comps as a team?

Will it be for people for already compete/preparing to compete or complete newbs? If it's the latter, who'll teach them the lifts? Olympic lifting is incredible technical and would need a proper coach.

Where will you get the equipment for the strongmen? I've never been in the elite gym but I'm guessing they don't have the logs, stones etc.

figs86

an citeog and shanedownfall how did you get access to the elite gym? ive been given the royal run-around with contact details that dont work so ive just started goin in with my mates or knockin on the door, its just a pain not to have my own access!

An Citeog

figs86 wrote: »

an citeog and shanedownfall how did you get access to the elite gym? ive been given the royal run-around with contact details that dont work so ive just started goin in with my mates or knockin on the door, its just a pain not to have my own access!

I got mine through the DCU hurling club. You'd have a better chance of getting access if you went through one of the DCU sports clubs, rather than individually.

shanedownfall

Nothingcompares wrote: »

the name is a bit gay but otherwise i give it my 100% support.

can you get powerlifting and weightlifting coaches?

Yea, actually I agree with you on the name. Might be better just to make it a weightlifting club. I'm open to ideas.

You don't necessarily need a coach for powerlifting. I'm hoping to have a few group sessions at the start where the technique for the 3 lifts, and others is shown. Talks from powerlifters, and accomplished coaches in the area will hopefully take place throughout the year too.

For olympic lifting, yea, you definitely need a coach! I'm going to have to work on that one, I'm not near good enough at the lifts to coach myself.

shanedownfall

Malteaser! wrote: »

It seems a bit broad to me. All of those sports are TOTALLY different to one another, I guess I just don't see how it would be set-up?

I feel myself that powerlifting and bodybuilding will be the most popular, and while they may be quite different(reps/sets especially); there is also quite a few similarities. Powerlifters tend to do close to a full body workout, (bar biceps and calves). Many of the lifts they do are also used by bodybuilders.

Malteaser! wrote: »

Like will you just be trying to get access to the elite gym for the members and then letting them do their own thing? Or will it be group training sessions? Entering comps as a team?

Once the training is finished I feel members should be free to do their own thing. Of course they may find training partners through the club, others with similar goals. However, I think the club should enter comps as a team.

Malteaser! wrote: »

Will it be for people for already compete/preparing to compete or complete newbs? If it's the latter, who'll teach them the lifts? Olympic lifting is incredible technical and would need a proper coach.

It will be open to both. Hopefully those who are already involved can help out bringing newbies on.

I agree with you on the olympic lifts, that's something I'm going to have to put a bit of thought into.

Malteaser! wrote: »

Where will you get the equipment for the strongmen? I've never been in the elite gym but I'm guessing they don't have the logs, stones etc.

No they don't have any of that gear in the elite gym! Tbh, i don't think there'l be much, if any interest in strong man training. However if there is, it's something we will try to provide for.

Hope that's your questions answered,
Any ideas you'd like to offer?

shanedownfall

figs86 wrote: »

an citeog and shanedownfall how did you get access to the elite gym? ive been given the royal run-around with contact details that dont work so ive just started goin in with my mates or knockin on the door, its just a pain not to have my own access!

I wrote a letter to Martina, and also backed it up with reference letters from the associations I'm lifting with.

Malteaser!

Hey, I was just thinking afterwards that I sounded really negative about the whole thing in my last post, I actually do think it's a good idea.

A couple of problems I see though:

By saying it's for 'bodybuilders' is basically just an open invitation for any person who's stuck in the crap gym to start using the elite. The term is just bandied around so much that it's kinda lost it's meaning, and every tom, dick and harry is 'bodybuilding' now. I reckon you'd get a lot of people who are interesting in nothing more that working their beach muscles and want to use the nice gym instead.

Drugs play a big part in a lot of these sports and I guess the club could get a bad name if you don't stress a strong anti-drug ethos from the very start, ya know, only promoting drug free organizations etc...

I'm thinking that getting the olympic lifting thing off the ground will be the biggest challenge, I suppose it depends on how much interest there is from members, no body may want to do it and then you wouldn't have to worry about it.

About the talks from powerlifters, did you have anyone in mind? I could probably help you out there if this ever happens.

I think it was you Shane that I asked in another thread, but are you lifting with the IDFPA yeah?

Nothingcompares

Maybe somebody in Hercules with the coaching certs could do a Olympic coaching one night a week.

I think the best idea would to look for 2 1.5 hour sessions in the elite gym. If they say no, tell them to get racks and oly bars for the normal gym.

Malteaser!

Nothingcompares wrote: »

Maybe somebody in Hercules with the coaching certs could do a Olympic coaching one night a week.

They don't coach people outside of Hercs afaik.

Nothingcompares

Malteaser! wrote: »

They don't coach people outside of Hercs afaik.

oh.

shanedownfall

Malteaser! wrote: »

By saying it's for 'bodybuilders' is basically just an open invitation for any person who's stuck in the crap gym to start using the elite. The term is just bandied around so much that it's kinda lost it's meaning, and every tom, dick and harry is 'bodybuilding' now. I reckon you'd get a lot of people who are interesting in nothing more that working their beach muscles and want to use the nice gym instead.

Good point. Any ideas for preventing that? I'm guessing club members will end up paying more than just the €4 for the possible training required to gain access to the elite gym. On top of this, several coaching sessions will be required. Perhaps this will act as a disincentive to those who are only interested in access to the elite gym.

Malteaser! wrote: »

Drugs play a big part in a lot of these sports and I guess the club could get a bad name if you don't stress a strong anti-drug ethos from the very start, ya know, only promoting drug free organizations etc...

I'm a member of the IDFPA myself, so I'll definitely be promoting the drug free aspect. Hopefully that won't be too big a problem.

Malteaser! wrote: »

I'm thinking that getting the olympic lifting thing off the ground will be the biggest challenge, I suppose it depends on how much interest there is from members, no body may want to do it and then you wouldn't have to worry about it.

You could be right, but i'd say there will be a small amount of interest. Probably better if it's a small group. I train with a coach in Hercs myself, so I'll be asking him for advice on this situation.

Malteaser! wrote: »

About the talks from powerlifters, did you have anyone in mind? I could probably help you out there if this ever happens.

Ger Mc Namara anyway. He does some seminars already, so he has plenty of experience. He's probably the best ever Irish powerlifter too, so fairly suitable for it! Any ideas for anyone yourself?

Malteaser!

shanedownfall wrote: »

Good point. Any ideas for preventing that? I'm guessing club members will end up paying more than just the €4 for the possible training required to gain access to the elite gym. On top of this, several coaching sessions will be required. Perhaps this will act as a disincentive to those who are only interested in access to the elite gym.

I haven't thought too hard about it but I'd say you're heading along the right path by calling it a 'weightlifting' club as opposed to 'strength and size' or whatever the other name was. I guess it sounds a bit more serious.

You could set up competitions within the Club itself. Get successful powerlifters competing in federations to be the judges. Like I said, I haven't put much thought into it but I will and I'll get back to ya.

I'm a member of the IDFPA myself, so I'll definitely be promoting the drug free aspect. Hopefully that won't be too big a problem.

That's deadly, I'd be most familiar with the IDFPA also but I'm aware of other drug free federations for the other sports you mentioned.

You could be right, but i'd say there will be a small amount of interest. Probably better if it's a small group. I train with a coach in Hercs myself, so I'll be asking him for advice on this situation.

Best place in Dublin to train tbh... Are you working with an Olympic Coach there or a powerlifter?

figs86

hey all,

back to hittin the weights a bit myself and pipe dream of training for irish universities - the standard seems to be pretty low

thought the club (if it comes into existence) might consider one of their aims to be competing in the weightlifting competitions for universities

also, myself and others in my class, sports science and health 3, have the opportunity to train as IAWLA Level 1 coaches from Feb - April 09 and also as strength and conditioning coaches with the U.S. National Strength and Conditioning Association by about the summertime 09

so if ya do get it goin for next semester/year give me a PM and i'll see if myself and others are available to coach

Tiroskan

I have to say I actually like the sound of this. Not that I'm interested in weight lifting, but if I were it sounds like a good low pressure way to get into it without having to worry about making arse of yourself or pulling something by doin something the wrong way. Good luck gettin it off the ground anyway Shane.

Emilia A

Hi, bit random. But my boyfriend is into dead lift and i wanna buy him chalk but i duno wat to get. Which is better. A block or a ball? or is there any difference. He doesnt use gloves so that might make a difference.... I also fould an actually powder but its hard to get

if u know any links or shops let me know PLEASE! Tnx!:)

shanedownfall

figs86 wrote: »

hey all,

back to hittin the weights a bit myself and pipe dream of training for irish universities - the standard seems to be pretty low

thought the club (if it comes into existence) might consider one of their aims to be competing in the weightlifting competitions for universities

also, myself and others in my class, sports science and health 3, have the opportunity to train as IAWLA Level 1 coaches from Feb - April 09 and also as strength and conditioning coaches with the U.S. National Strength and Conditioning Association by about the summertime 09

so if ya do get it goin for next semester/year give me a PM and i'll see if myself and others are available to coach

The universities will definitely be a goal alright. But, as you say, the competition isn't too high, so we'd be taking part in other, more competitive ones.

I reallly appreciate the offer of coaching anyway. I'm hoping to do the level 1 course myself, but the more the better. I'll PM you at a later stage, once i've a bit of ground work done.

shanedownfall

Emilia A wrote: »

Hi, bit random. But my boyfriend is into dead lift and i wanna buy him chalk but i duno wat to get. Which is better. A block or a ball? or is there any difference. He doesnt use gloves so that might make a difference.... I also fould an actually powder but its hard to get

if u know any links or shops let me know PLEASE! Tnx!:)

The block is a lot better anyway. You should be able to get some in any decent outdoor shop. Great outdoors possibly. Rock climbers use it too ye see.

Rocket!

Hey Shane, just wondering how the progress with getting this set up is looking? Im 100% interested anyways, so give me a shout if you get it off the ground. And if theres anything I can do to help, just let me know.

It'd be great to have it up and running for Semester 2.

All the best.

shanedownfall

Finding it hard to motivate myself to get it up and running in semester2. What I have in my head is more a yearly plan... But I'm going to make a start on getting it going, and if all goes well we'll get the ball rolling in semester 2.