'Sci-Fi Film' CCTV Predicts Crime

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The CCTV system has gone up in sites across Portsmouth and it will reportedly help predict crimes before they actually happen.
The city's council has set up the network of "intelligent" cameras that can alert an operator to suspicious behaviour.
The system is able to spot "unusual" incidents like somebody loitering or a vehicle travelling too fast.
It then alerts CCTV operators so they in turn can assess the situation and decide what action - if any - needs to be taken.
The system is being set up to watch quiet areas like car parks, stairwells or corridors in buildings and streets at night-time.
This is to allow an operator to monitor more cameras without having to watch each screen simultaneously.
"Although we are a long way off Minority Report, it is a step closer," said camera maker Smart CCTV's Nick Hewitson.
"It is able to alert the operator to something that might be interesting such as a guy hanging around or somebody running.
"But what it cannot do is say whether that guy is waiting for his girlfriend or about to commit a crime.
"That is for the operator to make a subjective human decision on and make an appropriate response.
"The software is able to filter out all the boring information and gives the security operator alerts on things that might be interesting."
The system, which has been running in several US cities, including New York, Washington and Chicago, is being given to Portsmouth for free.
:: Hollywood actor Tom Cruise starred in the Minority Report movie, in which psychics predict crimes so people can be arrested before they commit an offence.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20081127/tuk-sci-fi-film-cctv-predicts-crime-45dbed5.html

thecommander

Ah yeah, definite conspiracy there.

conceited

Look at the big picture !We are all doomed.

GhostInTheRuins

This is a bad thing? It's not like they're going to arrest you for a crime that you will comit in the future, it's just a camera that can detect if people are hanging around for a long time or a speeding car. Where's the conspiracy?

thecommander

WhaLofShi

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

This is a bad thing? It's not like they're going to arrest you for a crime that you will comit in the future, it's just a camera that can detect if people are hanging around for a long time or a speeding car. Where's the conspiracy?

Maybe the conspiracy is here.

What will the operator do when he sees someone acting suspiciously? He may make an "informed" decision and call the local constablary. They in turn will probably go to the location and identify the "offending" person. What happens then could be the problem.

The cops may question the offender as to his intentions. So would this, in some way, affect his "right" to wait for his girlfriend or simply stand somewhere? Then you have the situation where the cops may decide, for no other reason than they've had a bad day, to go through the guys pockets or simply just insist on his ID.

The conspiracy isn't in the equipment, it's how it's used (or abused) once it's in place.

humanji

But how is that any different to what can happen now?

Run_to_da_hills

thecommander wrote: »

Ah yeah, definite conspiracy there.

There is a conspiracy.

These CCTV cams will be rolled out right across Europe and the Globe

Eventually the monitoring of these sophisticated devices will be handed over to the foreign authorities of the NEW WORLD ORDER possibly through BRUSSELS which will eventually become the European headquarters for Global Law and Order reform.

GhostInTheRuins

WhaLofShi wrote: »

Maybe the conspiracy is here.

What will the operator do when he sees someone acting suspiciously? He may make an "informed" decision and call the local constablary. They in turn will probably go to the location and identify the "offending" person. What happens then could be the problem.

The cops may question the offender as to his intentions. So would this, in some way, affect his "right" to wait for his girlfriend or simply stand somewhere? Then you have the situation where the cops may decide, for no other reason than they've had a bad day, to go through the guys pockets or simply just insist on his ID.

The conspiracy isn't in the equipment, it's how it's used (or abused) once it's in place.

humanji wrote: »

But how is that any different to what can happen now?

There is no difference, the CCTV cameras in the streets of Dublin are monitored around the clock by the garda. If these were to be implemented here it could alert them to an area that they otherwise might not be watching and in effect make them more efficient and make the city safer.

thecommander

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Eventually the monitoring of these sophisticated devices will be handed over to the foreign authorities of the NEW WORLD ORDER possibly through BRUSSELS which will eventually become the European headquarters for Global Law and Order reform.

Hurray to the makey up forum. Putting things in bold makes them seem more real ya know.

WhaLofShi

humanji wrote: »

But how is that any different to what can happen now?

The difference is that overzealous "security men" feeling that they've got some sort of new power may give the cops a headache reporting every Tom, Dick or Harry who happens to stand in one place for too long.

I don't think that this new equipment will be used to cover only the areas mentioned in the original post. Given their love of CCTVm the British will probably roll it out across the entire UK before long.

I see this sort of technology being a nightmare for police forces, as they'll be called to sort out problems that don't exist. Cops have enough on their plates without having to respond to every "bunch of kids" standing outside a sweetshop at 9pm on a Friday night.

Put yourself in the place of a Bobby after responding to six of these non-crimes in a couple of hours. It might simply take one snotty word, or a refusal to show ID, from an innocent person standing on the street to get up his nose and the pepper spray / tazer comes out.

While I doubt the technology is necessarily a bad thing, it really depends on whose watching it. In a Big Brother world this is the perfect weapon against "illegal gatherings" and "dissident behaviour".

humanji

But then there's no problem with the software at all then. It's just the fact that some people are assholes, which is a problem we have right now anyway. If a cop is likely to use a taser on someone for no reason, providing them with a reason isn't going to make a difference.

The software that the thread is on about doesn't do anything that isn't already being done by humans. The idea behind it is to simply spot suspicious behavior, which is exactly what the security guards watching the monitors do. It seems is would cut down on the amount of people needed and a lot mess with using CCTV at the moment.

There will have to be proper training in it, but as with anything involving a human element, it's not foolproof, jsut slightly better than the current situation.

Just because there's a possiblilty of abuse, doesn't mean it has to happen. It's possible for me to punch my boss in the face today, but I'm not going to do that until the Christmas party!

WakeUp

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

There is a conspiracy.

These CCTV cams will be rolled out right across Europe and the Globe

Eventually the monitoring of these sophisticated devices will be handed over to the foreign authorities of the NEW WORLD ORDER possibly through BRUSSELS which will eventually become the European headquarters for Global Law and Order reform.

great pic lol never seen that before is there another 6 on the board behind them to the right or just the three..

Run_to_da_hills

WakeUp wrote: »

great pic lol never seen that before is there another 6 on the board behind them to the right or just the three..

I was just waitng for someone else to come up with it,

This is a famous shot of Condoleezza Rice at the United Nations in 2005 with the numbers 666 quite clearly behind her. Notice how the logo below was cleverly designed, celebrating the UN's 60th anniversary. http://www.un.org/un60/media_oct24.html

King Mob

But it's cleary not 666 behind them it's 60 60 60.
Seriously if you think that's supposed to mean anything your really grasping at straws.

Run_to_da_hills

King Mob wrote: »

But it's cleary not 666 behind them it's 60 60 60.
Seriously if you think that's supposed to mean anything your really grasping at straws.

Its an optical illusioin, some people get it first hnd others don't. Why have the sixes bolder than the zero? Why have 60, 60, 60 One logo in the center would have been suffuicient. Its a famous shot and you will find it on a lot of websites covering the topic .

studiorat

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Why have 60, 60, 60 One logo in the center would have been suffuicient. .

No, there would have been two big blank white bits on either side, better just do three of them to fill the space a bit more otherwise it'll just look crap. Since you are getting one printed it would be as cheap to get another two run out at the same time...

King Mob

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Its an optical illusioin, some people get it first hnd others don't. Why have the sixes bolder than the zero? Why have 60, 60, 60 One logo in the center would have been suffuicient. Its a famous shot and you will find it on a lot of websites covering the topic .

Why have 666 at all at a well covered press conferrence? How do you know there are only three posters maybe it 60 60 60 60?
The reason it's bolder is because the zero was around the globe in the middle of the UN symbol while the 6 is as big as the entire symbol including the wreath. Is just simple graphic design.
And what does it matter if the 6 is bolder, it's still 60 60 60.
But hey we all know how you are at admitting you are wrong.

thecommander

King Mob wrote: »

your really grasping at straws.

Nothing new there.

Run_to_da_hills

studiorat wrote: »

No, there would have been two big blank white bits on either side, better just do three of them to fill the space a bit more otherwise it'll just look crap. Since you are getting one printed it would be as cheap to get another two run out at the same time...

Its an optical illusioin, some people get it first hnd others don't. Didn't it get one posters attention? :rolleyes:

What about the EAN Barcode, isn't there a huge gap between the three guide bars?

thecommander

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Its an optical illusioin, some people get it first hnd others don't. Didn't it get one posters attention? :rolleyes:

What about the Barcode, isn't there a huge gap between the three guide bars?

Its not an optical illusion, its a photo taken from an angle with flag covering some part of the logo. Or maybe the photographer is in on it too?

WakeUp

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I was just waitng for someone else to come up with it,

This is a famous shot of Condoleezza Rice at the United Nations in 2005 with the numbers 666 quite clearly behind her. Notice how the logo below was cleverly designed, celebrating the UN's 60th anniversary. http://www.un.org/un60/media_oct24.html

the more you look at that picture the more 666 just jumps out at you lol not to sure about the design motives but theres definately something about that pic..

NailGunner

I know a good few cozzer's. You should see these clowns, jumped up little muppets, and thick as two short planks.

The police state is already here.

bonkey

The system, which has been running in several US cities, including New York, Washington and Chicago, is being given to Portsmouth for free.

Here's a thought....

Rather than all of the speculation about how this system might be abused....why not show it has been abused where its already in place?

Otherwise, this sounds a bit like "system which isn't causing problems where its already in use spells doom for latest implementation".

Of course...a headline like that probably wouldn't sell as many copies