why do rte2/tg4 show great comedy programs at awful times?

Shmuck

I think tv3 or tg4 had curb your enthusiasm on at about 1 in the morning, whereas today, rte2 have men behaving badly on at 3 in the morning. ****ing ridiculous considering the crap they put on during peak hours. Why waste these programs by putting them on at a time when no one will see them?

xOxSinéadxOx

they don't care as long as tv3 don't got them

TheBlock

xOxSinéadxOx wrote: »

they don't care as long as tv3 don't got them

Package fillers. TV stations do deals with distributors that will include a vast range of programmes you know kind of like buy 1 get 1 free only in this case its more like buy 5 get 15 free..plus the license may be for multiple showings. 3 am is an ideal slot to show this almost free stuff. If hey were showing it Primtime their would be more complaints.

mike65

Its what the old VCR was made for.

Mike

Elmo

Shmuck wrote: »

I think tv3 or tg4 had curb your enthusiasm on at about 1 in the morning, whereas today, rte2 have men behaving badly on at 3 in the morning. ****ing ridiculous considering the crap they put on during peak hours. Why waste these programs by putting them on at a time when no one will see them?

I never really liked Men Behaving Badly TBH I am sure they have better shows to be showing at that time.

TG4 did initially show Curb Your Enthusiasm early in the evening but then the moved to late night, which was fairly strange. As TG4 only broadcast until 1am they don't general have much late night TV other the France 24.

they don't care as long as tv3 don't got them

Not really true either, TV3 don't bid on the same type of programming and RTE/TG4 don't even have the chance to buy any of the ITV shows that TV3 currently show.

Package fillers. TV stations do deals with distributors that will include a vast range of programmes you know kind of like buy 1 get 1 free only in this case its more like buy 5 get 15 free..plus the license may be for multiple showings. 3 am is an ideal slot to show this almost free stuff. If hey were showing it Primtime their would be more complaints.

RTE spend 25,000,000 on imports, that around 11,000 hours of TV. Meaning that RTE ONE can go 24 hours and RTE can go for almost 24 hours.

Filler. But over the years they have often shown great first run series late at night, 24, The Practice, Boston Legal, Boston Public, Medium, Waterrats etc.

TheBlock

Elmo wrote: »

RTE spend 25,000,000 on imports, that around 11,000 hours of TV. Meaning that RTE ONE can go 24 hours and RTE can go for almost 24 hours.

Filler. But over the years they have often shown great first run series late at night, 24, The Practice, Boston Legal, Boston Public, Medium, Waterrats etc.

They also spent 70,000,000 on commissioning Independent Productions in 2007 and have a statutory remit to spend 35,0000,000 of that. This is what is scheduled in Primtime on both stations. Really is an eye opener to compare RTE's schedule between 6-12 now and 6-12 10 years ago.

No wether or not all the commisoned progammes are good enough for primtime slots or not is down to the individual.

Elmo

I did mean that their import expenditure is tiny in comparision to their other programming costs.

faulk28

Elmo wrote: »

Filler. But over the years they have often shown great first run series late at night, 24, The Practice, Boston Legal, Boston Public, Medium, Waterrats etc.

That's got something to do with UK channels having those series first. They decided not to waste time and money adversting and promoting, when most people in Ireland have already seen them so that's why they don't be on until late at night. They were on about it on Today FM one day.

Elmo

faulk28 wrote: »

That's got something to do with UK channels having those series first. They decided not to waste time and money adversting and promoting, when most people in Ireland have already seen them so that's why they don't be on until late at night. They were on about it on Today FM one day.

Not necessarily, some shows aren't bought by any UK broadcasters. RTE pretty much had exclusive rights to The Practice during its first run. Medium is just a disrespected on the BBC, RTE could easily show it at better times.

Yes 24 but they are so far behind I can see why they don't bother with it during primetime.

Passenger

Actually RTE tend to have a lot of the American shows before UK channels.

Syferus

Passenger wrote: »

Actually RTE tend to have a lot of the American shows before UK channels.

Very rarely do they beat UK stations (this of course includes cable/digital channels) to the press. And in cases where they meaningfully beat them, the most high profile recent one probably being Prison Break an hour before Sky1 shows it, effectively the first extra-North American showing in the world, they some how manage to have a deal that means they're already be a week behind Sky1.

On the point of shows on a bad times - the advent of online services (illegal or not) and cheap series DVDs mean most non-first run(or at least somewhat con-current with UK stations) shows aren't particularly useful in primetime, albeit the omi-present Father Ted being the exception that proves the rule in this case.

sweetie

mike65 wrote: »

Its what the old VCR was made for.

Mike

Exactly. I don't understand people moaning about scheduling nowadays when one can sit down on sunday evening and plan the weeks recordings on a hard drive dvd recorder or sky plus. I have both and hardly watch anything live anymore. Adverts are a thing of the past too. I can get some housework done at the start of something and then watch it in 45 mins or so. Even those shows my wife likes like strictly and dirty dancing have bits that she skips through making it 30% shorter!

It's worth having a close look at the schedules at the start of the week as there are often films and series on that would normally go unnoticed. Recently, I found Ed season 1 on tv3 early saturday morning and buffy season 4 on fx weekdays at 4.

Elmo

Syferus wrote: »

Very rarely do they beat UK stations (this of course includes cable/digital channels) to the press. And in cases where they meaningfully beat them, the most high profile recent one probably being Prison Break an hour before Sky1 shows it, effectively the first extra-North American showing in the world, they some how manage to have a deal that means they're already be a week behind Sky1.

On the point of shows on a bad times - the advent of online services (illegal or not) and cheap series DVDs mean most non-first run(or at least somewhat con-current with UK stations) shows aren't particularly useful in primetime, albeit the omi-present Father Ted being the exception that proves the rule in this case.

Generally speaking the Irish channels get shows before the British ones.

Heroes Channel 6
Fringe TV3
Lost RTE TWO (sometimes a week behind)
Deperate Housewives (RTE TWO)
Ugly Betty (RTE TWO)


They do get into trouble when Sky get the British Rights.
etc etc

Exactly. I don't understand people moaning about scheduling nowadays when one can sit down on sunday evening and plan the weeks recordings on a hard drive dvd recorder or sky plus. I have both and hardly watch anything live anymore. Adverts are a thing of the past too. I can get some housework done at the start of something and then watch it in 45 mins or so. Even those shows my wife likes like strictly and dirty dancing have bits that she skips through making it 30% shorter!

The credit cruch might see the demise of Sky+ etc

Also not everyone has Sky+ or Hard Drives.

so they are responible to proivide good scheduling which will attract people to their advertising.

sweetie

Elmo wrote: »

The credit cruch might see the demise of Sky+ etc

Also not everyone has Sky+ or Hard Drives.

so they are responible to proivide good scheduling which will attract people to their advertising.

True but sky plus is free with a basic sky 21euro monthly sub and dvd recorders can be got for a few shillings nowadays. Isn't there a new pvr for freeview coming out too.

MOH

Syferus wrote: »

Very rarely do they beat UK stations (this of course includes cable/digital channels) to the press. And in cases where they meaningfully beat them, the most high profile recent one probably being Prison Break an hour before Sky1 shows it, effectively the first extra-North American showing in the world, they some how manage to have a deal that means they're already be a week behind Sky1.

The problem with RTE is that even if they do have it a few days before Sky, I'd rather watch it on Sky, because you know it's going to be on at the same time every week, and start and end at the advertised time, not five minutes early/late, or chopped around to different time slots/days. At least with Sky you can just set the recording and not have to worry about missing the start or end of it.

I watched either the second or third season of 24 on RTE, and in the first 12 episodes or so it had about 4 different time slots on two different days.

They seem to have no concept of scheduling.

Elmo

sweetie wrote: »

True but sky plus is free with a basic sky 21euro monthly sub and dvd recorders can be got for a few shillings nowadays. Isn't there a new pvr for freeview coming out too.

DVD Record yes, We don't have freeview, freesat is an expensive option. Many people might be thinking of reverting to UPC Basic for there multichannels. Sky many not be as important to many people any more.

Do you not have to pay extra to get Sky + in the first instance????

Commercial TV channels really should not be thinking about any of these options since they make there money out of Advertising. Commerical TV channels don't make money on people watching recorded TV, they make it on Live viewers. And their schedule should take account of the advertiser and insuring the get the Max viewers available.

Elmo

MOH wrote: »

The problem with RTE is that even if they do have it a few days before Sky, I'd rather watch it on Sky, because you know it's going to be on at the same time every week, and start and end at the advertised time, not five minutes early/late, or chopped around to different time slots/days. At least with Sky you can just set the recording and not have to worry about missing the start or end of it.

I watched either the second or third season of 24 on RTE, and in the first 12 episodes or so it had about 4 different time slots on two different days.

They seem to have no concept of scheduling.

Yes the 4th season of 24 was moved from the orginal Tuesday night slot since Sky had it first and was moved from Saturday nights and eventually to Monday nights at 11:30 or 12:00 because of news etc.

I would rather watch it on RTE because of amount of advertising on Sky.