10mm fisheye or 11-16 wide zoom

PaulieC

Hi Y'all,

Since swapping my Sigma 10-20 for a Canon 17-40, I found that I am missing the very wide aspect of the Sigma so have decided to remedy that. I've narrowed it down to either the Sigma 10mm Rectangular Fisheye or the Tokina 11-16 Zoom. The prices for both are almost exactly the same, so that's not an issue. I'm leaning towards the Tokina, mainly for it's zoom capabilities, but was wondering does anyone know what the rectangular fisheye would be like? I've never used one and I'm not sure that I would want all my wide angle photos to be at-first-amisung-but-soon-tiresome fisheye type pictures.


oh and in case anyone asks, I sold the Sigma 10-20 when I was planning to go full-frame and it was already sold by the time I decided to stick with the cropped sensor

Peace

cambo_gueno wrote: »

Hi Y'all,

Since swapping my Sigma 10-20 for a Canon 17-40, I found that I am missing the very wide aspect of the Sigma so have decided to remedy that. I've narrowed it down to either the Sigma 10mm Rectangular Fisheye or the Tokina 11-16 Zoom. The prices for both are almost exactly the same, so that's not an issue. I'm leaning towards the Tokina, mainly for it's zoom capabilities, but was wondering does anyone know what the rectangular fisheye would be like? I've never used one and I'm not sure that I would want all my wide angle photos to be at-first-amisung-but-soon-tiresome fisheye type pictures.


oh and in case anyone asks, I sold the Sigma 10-20 when I was planning to go full-frame and it was already sold by the time I decided to stick with the cropped sensor

Haven't used the other lenses but i would like to ask you what you thought of your Sigma 10-20mm? I'm thinking of putting it ont he xmas list.

stcstc

i have a sigma 8mm fisheye, which is good, but i use it for specific types of work, like 360 degree stuff

PaulieC

Peace wrote: »

Haven't used the other lenses but i would like to ask you what you thought of your Sigma 10-20mm? I'm thinking of putting it ont he xmas list.

It's nice and wide and the quality is pretty good. Definitely put it on the list!

PaulieC

stcstc wrote: »

i have a sigma 8mm fisheye, which is good, but i use it for specific types of work, like 360 degree stuff

is it 'fishy' ?

Borderfox

Yes very!! I have to 15mm f2.8 Canon one and its superb. I would go for the prime as its performance is better.

PaulieC

is it possible to 'fix' the fisheye look? As in straighten it out? I want the wideness, but I'm not sure I'd like the fisheye look all the time. Thanks to Peace's post about the sale in AJ Purdy, I'm actually thinking of getting the Siggy 10-20 again! it works out at 300 quid!

Peace

cambo_gueno wrote: »

is it possible to 'fix' the fisheye look? As in straighten it out? I want the wideness, but I'm not sure I'd like the fisheye look all the time. Thanks to Peace's post about the sale in AJ Purdy, I'm actually thinking of getting the Siggy 10-20 again! it works out at 300 quid!

Snap - i bought one too! With the sale on its really good value

Also yes you can 'fix' the fish eye effect in photo shop.

BanzaiBk

I had an 8mm siggy and a Tokina 11-17mm. I found the Tokina much more flexible and usable, it's easily defished in photoshop. The 8mm is fun, seriously epic fun, but as with all fisheyes it can be abit overdone. I'd go for the zoom personally:)

jpfahy

Did you consider the Sigma 12-24?

pete4130

I've shot with a fisheye for the last 8 or 9 years. I've always made good use of it when its needed. I see alot fo people the past 12/18 months buy9ing fisheye lenses and taking generic fisheye lens shots that alot of people think are "cool". I've pretty much stopped using fisheye anymore unless its really necessary. It's become sort of a trendy thing to have to shoot with lately. I've found myself moving to much lnger focal lenghts I never used to shoot at which I'm much happier about than taking the easy option to "go fish".

I recently got the Nikon 14-24mm and its fantastic. The diversity is amazing. I actually don't think I've shot a photo with my fisheye in 5 weeks.I'm even finding the 14-24 too wide at 24mm these days.

I'll agree with Borderfox though, the Sigam 15mm is AMAZING. I had it for 5.5 years and only replaced it with the Nikon version as it was smaller. I still think I prefer the Sigma version as it seems to focus alot closer than the Nikon 16mm fisheye. I also seem to be moving towards a bag of prime lenses over zooms. My back and bank account can't handle that!

PaulieC

Thanks Pete for the comments. I'm not really looking for a fisheye to take 'cool' shots really - I just want a really wide angle lens. I don't think I'd ever have any use for the circular fisheye shots that are quite common.

Looking at it again, I think the fisheye would be too wide with an angle of view of 167 degrees on a canon crop sensor. The Sigma 10-20 has an angle of view of 102 degrees at it's widest and I always found this to be sufficiently wide for my needs.

Borderfox

The 15mm would be 167mm diagonally not across the frame so it doesnt work out so wide.

quilmore

there is no "rectangular fisheye"
the tokina 11-16 is exceptional, I have it and I'd recommend it any day, superb lens

Borderfox

The perils of a fisheye Paul, I didnt even think I was near to getting in the shot, this was on a 5d.

PaulieC

Cool!

Borderfox

No crop on that one, thats the way it came out of the camera as a jpg. Check the full size for sharpness at f2.8!!

PaulieC

Borderfox wrote: »

No crop on that one, thats the way it came out of the camera as a jpg. Check the full size for sharpness at f2.8!!

very impressive. Looks like a High ISO too?

JMcL

quilmore wrote: »

there is no "rectangular fisheye"
the tokina 11-16 is exceptional, I have it and I'd recommend it any day, superb lens

The Tokina got a good review in last weeks Amateur Photographer (head to head with a Nikon 12-24). Scored highly, though with the wide aperture distortion was a bit of a concern, but it didn't look too bad in the ubiquitous brick wall test shot, certainly not of the order of the Canon 17-85 at the the wide end

Borderfox

cambo_gueno wrote: »

very impressive. Looks like a High ISO too?

ISO 400 1/320th f2.8

PaulieC

JMcL wrote: »

The Tokina got a good review in last weeks Amateur Photographer (head to head with a Nikon 12-24). Scored highly, though with the wide aperture distortion was a bit of a concern, but it didn't look too bad in the ubiquitous brick wall test shot, certainly not of the order of the Canon 17-85 at the the wide end

I've pretty much decided to get the Tokina. it will work out at about 475 from B&H incl Sales Tax

jackdaw

What is a good wide zoon for a FF canon ?


is there something in the range 12-24 ?


that will suit a FF sensor ??

Borderfox

The 17-40L is plenty wide on ff

jackdaw

Borderfox wrote: »

The 17-40L is plenty wide on ff

good point ...

but since i have the 24-70 should i invest that much in basically 7mm ??

quilmore

7mm on wide goes a long (and wide ) way

for the tokina, check on the HK sites, some are a better deal than BH on this lens

Borderfox

Jackdaw when you get the 5d the 24-70L becomes a very different lens than on a crop so just check it out first.

jackdaw

Thanks ... I was thinking the same ... 15mm equivalent on the 400d ??


so thats plenty wide ... but i do wanna get an ultra wide eventually .. to experiment with ...

sasar

I've got tokina 11-16mm. Compared to sigma 10-20 it is a lot softer, the only advantage is f/2.8

jackdaw

sasar wrote: »

I've got tokina 11-16mm. Compared to sigma 10-20 it is a lot softer, the only advantage is f/2.8

Will the SIGMA 10-20 work on a FF camera though ?

Stephen

Nope. Well, it will mount but you will have black borders/vignetting around your image, depending where you are between the 10 and 20mm.

edit: I'm talking Nikon here, I've no idea if the Canon crop stuff will mount on their FF cameras or not.

sasar

jackdaw wrote: »

Will the SIGMA 10-20 work on a FF camera though ?

Well, neither tokina or sigma will work on FF.

JMcL

jackdaw wrote: »

What is a good wide zoon for a FF canon ?


is there something in the range 12-24 ?


that will suit a FF sensor ??

The Sigma 12-24mm is full frame. It's as wide as you'll get outside of fisheyes.