33% less salt. 100% more expensive.

Terry

I went to buy some butter earlier today.
I sought a healthy alternative and saw that Dairygold Heart (which contains 33% less salt (than regular Dairygold I would presume)) was priced at €5.33 for 454g.
The regular one was around the €2.50 mark.

How can they charge more when they are using less ingredients?

jesus_thats_gre

Terry wrote: »

How can they charge more when they are using less ingredients?

Not over simplified in the slightest...

Biggins

Charge more for their content substitutes?

Alun

They're two totally different products, using different ingredients, that's why. Not just the same product but one with a bit of salt taken out. Dairygold Heart has stuff in it to actively reduce cholesterol for a start.

antodeco

In fairness, if you are that concerned, dont eat fukcing butter!

Danbo!

Because they know they're is a load of morbidly obese people women out there who think they can still eat massive greasy chip sambos without gaining weight if they use flora proactive and wash it down with an actimel.

Plus, keeping your cholesterol down is cool, just look at Padraig Harrington

Kold

So you can have this cancer causing phone that runs on uranium for 20quid or the safer alternative for 300?

Terry

antodeco wrote: »

In fairness, if you are that concerned, dont eat fukcing butter!

What else am I going to put on my fried egg and sausage sandwiches?

Jesus Wept

I Butter.

InkSlinger67

I seen a thread on cooking with jiz there yesterday that may offer a healthy alternative.

Otherwise, the only other advice I can offer about butter is how to watch highly underpaid women wrestle in it.

God speed!

Wertz

noblestee wrote: »

Plus, keeping your cholesterol down is cool, just look at Padraig Harrington

Aye for real...I happened to look at the price of a tub of Benecol the other day and nearly had a f*ckin' coronary.
€7 and something? To quote the leprechaun himself "Eh...absolutely!"

Cheap ass, own brand, can't believe it's not from a cow, emulsified veg oil spread FTW.

Terry

Why is it so expensive though?

I'm one of many fat bastard children of the Celtic tiger who will undoubtedly take a hospital bed after my first heart attack. Why doesn't that fat bitch Harney step in and make healthy crap cheaper. I bought two 150g packs of those Tayto occasions for €3 ffs.


Also, after midnight on the fight network for the butter wrestling.

Kold

Terry wrote: »

What else am I going to put on my fried egg and sausage sandwiches?

The regular butter. Ooh, and a load of ketchup.

Bob the Builder

Terry wrote: »

What else am I going to put on my fried egg and sausage sandwiches?

jam?

6th

Terry wrote: »

What else am I going to put on my fried egg and sausage sandwiches?

Here you go!

dr.bollocko

Why would think that dairygold heart is healthier than butter?
Hmmm.
Interesting.

Terry

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Why would think that dairygold heart is healthier than butter?
Hmmm.
Interesting.

Because it has the word "Heart" on the tub.

I did actually see an old woman buying some lard a few weeks ago.
Hardcore bitch.

Kold

Just don't use bread, use hashbrowns instead.

Terry

The window to weight gain?

dr.bollocko

Terry wrote: »

Because it has the word "Heart" on the tub.

I did actually see an old woman buying some lard a few weeks ago.
Hardcore bitch.

I know what you mean. Its hard to know. And those packages lie. Nothing like Cocopops telling me how much of my RDA of calcium its giving me.
Lard is animal fat however. It may be less processed than veggie oil or whatever alternative. I think I might go caveman until they have figured out which **** is healthier than the other ****.

Kold

My alternative to dieting has always been just exercise, I enjoy my carbs too much.

Wertz

Terry wrote: »

Why is it so expensive though?

Because idiots with too much money have indicated their willingness to be sold lifestyle crap like this over the boom years and companies are only too willing to produce a range of new products with snazzy marketing, buzzwords like omega3 and LDL, and sports celebrity endorsements, to meet the demand. Then the supermarkets stick on their paddy tax.

Terry wrote: »

I'm one of many fat bastard children of the Celtic tiger who will undoubtedly take a hospital bed after my first heart attack. Why doesn't that fat bitch Harney step in and make healthy crap cheaper. I bought two 150g packs of those Tayto occasions for €3 ffs.

Why do smoking aids like patches and gum cost just as much if not more than the cigarettes they are supposed to help wean you off?
Harney couldn't find her arse with both hands (and that's saying something)...what makes you think her and her department have the vision to see that far down the line?
Of course on the other hand maybe they are in fact able to see through the markeshing BS that surrounds "healthy" products and see them for what they are...

Imposing any kind of "fat tax" especially in the current climate, would back fire spectacularly . It's better that people just consume as much as they can whilst they're young and die before they get a chance to soak up too much of the pension fund...if that necessitates a spell in a by then fully privatised healthcare system then so be it...

dr.bollocko

Kold wrote: »

My alternative to dieting has always been just exercise, I enjoy my carbs too much.

Its the spuds that does you in in the end you know.
Nobody ever really misses rice.
****ing rice.

Terry

dr.bollocko wrote: »

I know what you mean. Its hard to know. And those packages lie. Nothing like Cocopops telling me how much of my RDA of calcium its giving me.
Lard is animal fat however. It may be less processed than veggie oil or whatever alternative. I think I might go caveman until they have figured out which **** is healthier than the other ****.

Sounds good.

Kold wrote: »

My alternative to dieting has always been just exercise, I enjoy my carbs too much.

Doesn't sound good.

Wertz wrote: »

Because idiots with too much money have indicated their willingness to be sold lifestyle crap like this over the boom years and companies are only too willing to produce a range of new products with snazzy marketing, buzzwords like omega3 and LDL, and sports celebrity endorsements, to meet the demand. Then the supermarkets stick on their paddy tax.



Why do smoking aids like patches and gum cost just as much if not more than the cigarettes they are supposed to help wean you off?
Harney couldn't find her arse with both hands (and that's saying something)...what makes you think her and her department have the vision to see that far down the line?
Of course on the other hand maybe they are in fact able to see through the markeshing BS that surrounds "healthy" products and see them for what they are...

Imposing any kind of "fat tax" especially in the current climate, would back fire spectacularly . It's better that people just consume as much as they can whilst they're young and die before they get a chance to soak up too much of the pension fund...if that necessitates a spell in a by then fully privatised healthcare system then so be it...

This makes too much sense.
I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and take my cousin up on the offer of his services as a personal trainer.
I don't like exercise, but these bastards have priced me out of eating healthy foods.

Kold

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Its the spuds that does you in in the end you know.
Nobody ever really misses rice.
****ing rice.

I like rice. Pasta is the winner though. Lasagne and spag bol? F*ck yeah.

Terry wrote: »

This makes too much sense.
I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and take my cousin up on the offer of his services as a personal trainer.
I don't like exercise, but these bastards have priced me out of eating healthy foods.

You'd be surprised how easy it can be if you dedicate yourself. You can even eat more as long as it's white meat and green veg. Brocolli and green beans are quite good if you throw in some garlic... maybe break up some bacon into it once in a while. You'll have to ease into training though. Seriously though, being healthy will make you feel better than crisps or chocolate ever did.

abi2007

all butter alternatives made from sunflour oil have to be hydrogenated.. which means they contain trans fats.. the worst fat for you.. all this extra added goodness is bull**** cause they dont tell you about the really bad fat thats in it.

rubadub

Terry wrote: »

I did actually see an old woman buying some lard a few weeks ago.
Hardcore bitch.

Where did you see the lard? it is quite hard to get these days. It is actually argued as being far more healthy to fry in than many other veg oils. They transform into crap at high temps, while the lard does not.

The heart stuff is dearer since they get away with it, people pay more for "medicine", could well have magical fish oils in it too:rolleyes:. Ever hear of the crap called lipotrim? it is powdered food and they restrict the sale to pharmacies so people are conned into thinking it is some how medically approved to starve yourself. You only eat 500kcal per day, when the average irish persons usual intake is around 3500kcal per day (while it should be 2000-2500kcal for most)

Wertz

How so Terry?
I eat healthily (or try to when I'm not working) and even though I'm not heavy or built, I eat a lot, ofetn.
Fresh fruit and veg, especially green veg (from Lidl of late) is cheap if you buy what's in season.
Wholewheat breads and cereals aren't really that expensive. Hell Oatmeal/porridge is about as healthy a food as you can get and you can make a little go a long way.
Avoiding processed food, heavily sugared food and quick fixes like ready to eat after a min in the microwave stuff will go a long way both on your pocket and toward your health.

I don't like excersise either...at least not the pointless wastes of energy like going to gyms or jogging...but yet I've managed to keep my weight consistent for well over 15 yrs through eating cheap food and using a bike or walking for short journeys.

Bob the Builder

Wertz wrote: »

I don't like excersise either...at least not the pointless wastes of energy like going to gyms or jogging...but yet I've managed to keep my weight consistent for well over 15 yrs through eating cheap food and using a bike or walking for short journeys.

However, going for a 5 minute run or 15 minute walk isn't efficient at all. You should always aim for at least 25 minutes exercise because it takes your body out of it's comfort zone.

Walking for a half an hour is much better than running for 5 minutes. Try swimming as well, even just paddling around the swimming pool is a fecking brilliant way of exercising.

Pitty I dont get to practise what I teach.

pickarooney

Butter is about a euro a kilo, no?

What more do you want?

Terry

Kold wrote: »

I like rice. Pasta is the winner though. Lasagne and spag bol? F*ck yeah.



You'd be surprised how easy it can be if you dedicate yourself. You can even eat more as long as it's white meat and green veg. Brocolli and green beans are quite good if you throw in some garlic... maybe break up some bacon into it once in a while. You'll have to ease into training though. Seriously though, being healthy will make you feel better than crisps or chocolate ever did.

I rarely eat red meat and I was never really a fan of chocolate.
**** that garlic crap though. I can't stand the taste of it.
I'll eat broccoli or spinach (raw only) or carrots or peas or green beans or cabbage (when cooked properly) or lettuce or plenty of other food that food eats.
Thing is, it's quite expensive to buy that crap when you are only buying for one. You get two days out of it at best.
As someone who currently lives week to week, this is not an option, although frozen veg does the job at times, but it's not as tasty as fresh veg.

rubadub wrote: »

Where did you see the lard? it is quite hard to get these days. It is actually argued as being far more healthy to fry in than many other veg oils. They transform into crap at high temps, while the lard does not.

The heart stuff is dearer since they get away with it, people pay more for "medicine", could well have magical fish oils in it too:rolleyes:. Ever hear of the crap called lipotrim? it is powdered food and they restrict the sale to pharmacies so people are conned into thinking it is some how medically approved to starve yourself. You only eat 500kcal per day, when the average irish persons usual intake is around 3500kcal per day (while it should be 2000-2500kcal for most)

Saw the lard in my local supermarket.
I was getting some butter (again) and she was putting three packs of lard into her trolley.
I hadn't actually seen any (probably due to not looking for it) since my uncle died.
He would have a healthy dinner made and then heat up the lard and pour it over the dinner.
He died aged 73 from lung cancer. The bollix.

Pride Fighter

abi2007 wrote: »

all butter alternatives made from sunflour oil have to be hydrogenated.. which means they contain trans fats.. the worst fat for you.. all this extra added goodness is bull**** cause they dont tell you about the really bad fat thats in it.

Dairygold does not use hydrogenated vegetable/palm/whatever oil. It is the reason why I use it. It is the next best thing to real butter.

abi2007

They do! 0.5g per 100g.. that's off their heart butter...still bad for ya

Wertz

Bob the Builder wrote: »

However, going for a 5 minute run or 15 minute walk isn't efficient at all. You should always aim for at least 25 minutes exercise because it takes your body out of it's comfort zone.

Walking for a half an hour is much better than running for 5 minutes. Try swimming as well, even just paddling around the swimming pool is a fecking brilliant way of exercising.

Pitty I dont get to practise what I teach.

I'm on my feet for 8 hours a day through my job (at least I was till the banks turned out the lights on us all), much of that time spent walking, climbing ladders or burning calories in some other way. Most people in their work are sat on their ass, many at a screen for that same time; they're the people who need to do the whole gym/jog thing...they're welcome to it.
I didn't say that non-productive jogging, walking, etc isn't good for you...I said I don't like it and I make up the shortfall in excersise through daily activity.

Swimming is a great fat burner...I just never go anymore, the chlorine burns the sh*te out of my eyes.

Bleh I sound like some sort of helath freak...truth be told I smoke a little too much weed, couldn't give a flying f*ck what I weigh, eat what I like and can afford and happen to be thin. It's a tried and trusted formula and I'm sticking with it...

rubadub

pickarooney wrote: »

Butter is about a euro a kilo, no?

No, that would mean ~50c a pound, own brand butters are around 1.50 per lb IIRC.

Terry wrote: »

As someone who currently lives week to week, this is not an option, although frozen veg does the job at times, but it's not as tasty as fresh veg.

Frozen often has more nutrients than fresh, some of the ads do actually have truth in them. I cook up batches of stuff and freeze or chill. Problem with eating for one is overeating the portions so it won't go to waste. I could polish off a slice pan easily in 2 days.

Terry wrote: »

I hadn't actually seen any (probably due to not looking for it) since my uncle died.
He would have a healthy dinner made and then heat up the lard and pour it over the dinner.

Well that sounds a bit much! I fry in butter and eat it as a healthier option than most "healthy spreads". I prefer a small bit of something I like. A lot of those spreads are a rip off, just oil, water and gelatine, watered down butter, but twice the price. Just drink more water to offset the effects of salt.

Terry

Wertz wrote: »

How so Terry?
I eat healthily (or try to when I'm not working) and even though I'm not heavy or built, I eat a lot, ofetn.
Fresh fruit and veg, especially green veg (from Lidl of late) is cheap if you buy what's in season.
Wholewheat breads and cereals aren't really that expensive. Hell Oatmeal/porridge is about as healthy a food as you can get and you can make a little go a long way.
Avoiding processed food, heavily sugared food and quick fixes like ready to eat after a min in the microwave stuff will go a long way both on your pocket and toward your health.

I don't like excersise either...at least not the pointless wastes of energy like going to gyms or jogging...but yet I've managed to keep my weight consistent for well over 15 yrs through eating cheap food and using a bike or walking for short journeys.

I'm a lazy, lazy man.
Got into the habit of eating high calorie stuff when I worked on site. I burnt it off quickly though, so it wasn't a problem.
I've had very little work for the past few months and currently weigh almost 20 stone.
My cousins (twins) are fitness freaks. Both held national boxing and tennis titles in the late 70's/ early 80's before they started families.
If I take my namesake cousin up on his offer, I'll probably die after the first day.

abi2007 wrote: »

They do! 0.5g per 100g.. that's off their heart butter...still bad for ya

Where did you get the ingredients?
I checked their websote, but couldn't find anything.

abi2007

google dairy gold heart.. has its own web page. just checked the dunnes own brand 'taste like butter' which is really cheap (i'm broke).. it has no trans fats and is high in good fats.. I'm well impressed!

Wertz

Aye the crap you eat on a site will kill you...the brekkie roll, the few bags of crisps and the can of coke or pint of milk get burned off quickly whilst you toil on a cold damp build someplace...trouble is your body gets used to burning off the crap, so then when you're not working, but eating the same sh*t, it starts to store up the excess. Exact same thing happened to my best mate...got laid off just after last xmas, has piled on nearly 4 stone.

Laziness doesn't have that much to do with it...although once in a rut, being lazy only tends to add to the weight gain.
Ampethamines are the only weight loss method for a severe case of lazyitis.


[edit] lol @ Dunnes butter...that and the tesco Butter me up ae the only two I bother with...and it's only cos they're cheap.

Kold

Terry wrote: »

If I take my namesake cousin up on his offer, I'll probably die after the first day.

Honestly, the hardest thing is thinking about it.

Wertz

Kold wrote: »

Honestly, the hardest thing is thinking about it.

Agreed.

A good start is half the work.

Pride Fighter

abi2007 wrote: »

They do! 0.5g per 100g.. that's off their heart butter...still bad for ya

Trans fats only occur naturally in nature in dairy and beef products, it has something to do with the reaction of the cows stomach acid with grass. The .5% is a result of naturally occuring trans fats, nothing is added. Here is a linky, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_fats#Presence_in_food

Overheal

Went to Perkins for breakfast. They give you steak, onions, fried egg, gravy, hash browns, and a muffin. nyom.

Random

Terry wrote: »

What else am I going to put on my fried egg and sausage sandwiches?

Bacon.

Terry

Meh. There's a place in Sallins that gives you all that and sausages and toast and tea.

Overheal

I had forgotten about the coffee and sausages. And the Toast! But it was overshadowed by the Pumkin-Muffin.

the groutch

why not just stop eating butter???

it's LOWER fat/salt, it's still very high in fat/salt

same with mayonaise

all you're doing is limiting the damage

Wertz

Why not sew up your mouth?

That way no nasty food items manage to invade your system...

:rolleyes: