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You might revert to me ... huh?

  • 24-11-2008 10:06am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭


    I get dozens of eMails a day at work, and there's a new buzzword - kinda like touch base, lets network, etc - it's called 'Revert'. Now as far as I know, the word revert means return to previous state, or in other words, turn back into what it was. I've checked Google, and I can't find any other definitions, but time and time again people are eMailing in with questions saying "You might revert to me on these". Anyone got any ideas if it's actually used in that context, or are all these people just making mistakes?

    The almighty Google leads to sites like Bad English, and wordreference, and nearly every one of these sites says that it's actually a mistake, and that people just don't know what they're saying.

    Reminds me of the Simpsons, where Edna Crabboble says "Embiggen isn't even a word", and Skinner says "Embiggen is a perfectly cromulent word"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Sounds like more **** management speak to me. I suggest you reply and tell them to go fo0k themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Just reply "I can't as I am unsure of their previous state"

    Should confuse the buzz word muppets a bit more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,039 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Hmnn I can't say I've heard anyone here use that ned, perhaps it's just down there in cork. You know yer all a bit strange down there. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    Unless someone is going to revert to me with a cheque for several thousand euros, they can piss off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Use the word regress instead.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Why not email them a definition of the word?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,099 ✭✭✭muckwarrior




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    They all must be snowboarders
    Revert - To switch from riding fakie to forward, or from forward to fakie, usually while the snowboard is still touching the ground.


    I also get this in e-mails alot, especially when dealing with the US. What really bugs me is the new trend of replying to e-mails with the phrase 'well noted with thanks' - fcuking freaks me out tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    "Please advise"

    About every email I get has this:
    Please advise why this was done
    Please advise why you fecked off on lunch without doing it
    Is advise a verb? Gonna check this, maybe it's ok
    That's the buzzword along with "as per procedure"

    Hey posters, why do some of you sign your posts? Always reminds me of work emails


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭Gillo


    We convinced someone that he needed to rimsh00t an account last week, scary thing is he just accepted that that was what needed to be done.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    I hate "revert" I hate " advise" i hate "does that suit?" suit f***in who? finish the sentence!!:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Ross_Mahon


    Wreck wrote: »
    They all must be snowboarders




    I also get this in e-mails alot, especially when dealing with the US. What really bugs me is the new trend of replying to e-mails with the phrase 'well noted with thanks' - fcuking freaks me out tbh.

    I knew it sounded familiar! Just from playing SSX all the time. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Slow Motion


    Revert has been around for a long time! It's just *****ultant speech tbh, next time your asked to revert to someone about something, do so with your response telling them you were thinking outside the box to come up with this one, and while you know you are pushing the envalope, why don't we just run it up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes!

    Alternatively tell them they sound like a wanker and to fcuk right off!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Don't forget to touch base with your associates!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    While the other ones are also management buzzwords, they are at least correct use of the english language. Revert makes people sound uneducated!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    revert = get back (American idiom?)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    ned78 wrote: »
    While the other ones are also management buzzwords, they are at least correct use of the english language. Revert makes people sound uneducated!

    Makes them sound like management then ;)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    KTRIC wrote: »
    Makes them sound like management then ;)
    Indeed! As in AIG management with their $27 million dollar golden parachutes for CEOs that don't last a year and fail. And their survivors demanding a taxpayers multi-billion dollar bailout so that they can party at a posh So Cal resort for over $400,000.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I'm gonna go right ahead and action that ASAP and if you can just revert to me with the figures that'd be super.

    [edit] I should be in management [/edit]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,814 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    I get "Please do the needfull" a lot.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    I could have been in management at this stage, 10 years in IT but I hate all the brown nosing and bullshit.

    Can't imaging I'd ever stoop that low to be honest. It seems quite competent engineers go into management and either turn into assholes or get progressively stupid and ignorant.

    I get "Please do the needfull" a lot.

    Let me guess, you have offices in India ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Dinter


    Yeah it's a pointless one alright. Personally when I see it in correspondance I take revert to mean, reply back on the particular subject with my thoughts / additions rather than making changes to the minutiae of it. I.e whether it makes good sense to do yadda yadda yadda, rather than whether I spelt minutiae right!

    It's like if you're having a conversation and you go off to the jacks mid flow and when you came back you revert to the subject you were talking about before.

    Just remember never say "revert back" as that just shows astounding levels of ignorance for which you should be crucified or at least insulted!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭funk-you


    Users,

    Going forward within the after hours section of this site we should put matrices in place to drive home to the "general users" the importance of dynamic professionalism in the way we communicate.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Dinter


    There's an old lad in my office who puts his business address in the top right of an email and my address (which is the same) below it just like he was writing a letter.

    Bumbling old fool earns more money than I do! (Still can be damn sure he doesn't waste as much time on boards as I do.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Slow Motion


    KTRIC wrote: »
    I could have been in management at this stage, /QUOTE]

    "I coudda been a contender I tell ya, I coudda been somethin' special, now I'm just a bum........." :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭KTRIC



    "I coudda been a contender I tell ya, I coudda been somethin' special, now I'm just a bum........." :D

    Well put it this way. I earn more than my manager :D

    And he knows it. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,782 ✭✭✭P.C.


    Years ago, my boss (at the time) told me that i needed to 'go the extra mile'.

    I told him that if I went 'the extra mile' I would not be at work, but a mile down the road. :D

    He did not see the funny side. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Look guys, I think we need to ringfence this discussion for now, I'm not getting a sense of what we're hoping to achieve here, yeah?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭dunnomede?


    micmclo wrote: »
    Don't forget to touch base with your associates!

    I'm being investigated on a case of sexual harrasment


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭Orlee


    I get " You might revert to me by return"

    Just don't get it! They might as well just write "WB"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    micmclo wrote: »
    "Please advise"

    About every email I get has this:
    Please advise why this was done
    Please advise why you fecked off on lunch without doing it
    Is advise a verb? Gonna check this, maybe it's ok
    That's the buzzword along with "as per procedure"

    Yes, advise is a verb - advice is the noun.

    I find it strange when people complain about buzz words, when in a good few cases, it would take more words to say the same thing "normally".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭BroomBurner


    Maybe they meant to say "refer" but someone forgot what the right word was.

    I hate when people say "asap" instead of A.S.A.P.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Can you not take this topic off line?
    Maybe you should speak to it with a more suitable audience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Dinter


    Bambi wrote: »
    Look guys, I think we need to ringfence this discussion for now, I'm not getting a sense of what we're hoping to achieve here, yeah?

    As per Bambi. I thought I'd run this up the flagpole. It's hard to drill down to our core competencies without some blue sky thinking. Going forward I'd like to facilitate a sit down to streamline and incentivise our paradigm shift depending on the granularity we discover with a SWOT analysis. Remember guys the answer is in the room and between us we can take it to the next level! Now revert back to me when you have a resource driven approach that encompasses a user interface.

    (Let's think about it)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,782 ✭✭✭P.C.


    Dinter wrote: »
    As per Bambi. I thought I'd run this up the flagpole. It's hard to drill down to our core competencies without some blue sky thinking. Going forward I'd like to facilitate a sit down to streamline and incentivise our paradigm shift depending on the granularity we discover with a SWOT analysis. Remember guys the answer is in the room and between us we can take it to the next level! Now revert back to me when you have a resource driven approach that encompasses a user interface.

    (Let's think about it)

    I think we need to get task orrientated.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Please reply by return email.

    I understand replying by return post. You reply and post the letter before the daily deadline that post goes at.

    return email? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,154 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Its because women are in business. If men were still the only breadwinners we would just talk normally. Women feel the need to justify their feeble brained existence in business. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Slow Motion


    Its because women are in business. If men were still the only breadmakers we would just talk normally. Women feel the need to justify their feeble brained existence in business. :D

    Did you mean breadwinners? Bit of a Freudian slip there methinks:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,154 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Did you mean breadwinners? Bit of a Freudian slip there methinks:D

    Drat, changed. I was thinking about the old series "Bread" and my mind started to wander. Ta :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I imagine it's a typical exercise of people adding superfluous words (second time today I've gotten to use that :D) when they don't fully understand what they're saying.

    Much like "ATM Machine" or "PIN Number".

    "Please revert" is a valid (if tenous) alternative to "Please reply", and in both cases, adding "to me" is a pointless exercise. Of course in the former case, it changes the meaning of the whole statement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    seamus wrote: »
    "Please revert" is a valid (if tenous) alternative to "Please reply"

    No it's not, please revert makes no sense in this context, it might if I were talking to a block of ice and I'd like it to revert to a puddle of water, but if someone asks me to please revert, it means in my mind, that they want me to transform into a fetus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Dinter


    You revert to the topic and not the particular email you received if that makes any sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    ned78 wrote: »
    No it's not, please revert makes no sense in this context, it might if I were talking to a block of ice and I'd like it to revert to a puddle of water, but if someone asks me to please revert, it means in my mind, that they want me to transform into a fetus.
    That's the beauty of the flexibility of the language.

    You need to pick your context correctly.

    Look at this way:

    Previous state: The ball was in my court. I sent an update asking for the other person to "revert" the issue. This means that they need to reply to me to ensure that the ball is once again in my court and this issue has "reverted" to its previous state.

    This is why the "to me" changes the whole meaning of the statement (because it breaks context), whereas "please revert" does make sense.

    It's bolloxology but no doubt somebody somewhere who managed to waste 6 years of their life doing a PhD on something called "Situation Theory", decided that "revert" was an appropriate word to be used in these circumstances.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭Dinter


    seamus wrote: »
    It's bolloxology

    That's a great word!! You run that up the flagpole and I'll salute it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    "Bolloxology" - the study of things that are complete and utter useless bollox.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    in my previous life, i worked in the legal system and that word was commanly used,

    "Please revert to me, as a matter of urgency" etc.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,858 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    As a matter of urgency we need to progress this issue, and escalate if necessary to properly resource it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Still waiting on a couple.


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,773 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    in my previous life, i worked in the legal system and that word was commanly used,

    "Please revert to me, as a matter of urgency" etc.
    The word 'revert' has been commonly used in legal correspondences for years. It's something that I'd imagine has been adopted in general communications in an attempt to sound professional. Misuse of the word i.e., by saying 'please revert to me' instead of just 'please revert' is what makes it unprofessional.

    It's a bit like the difference between 'this comprises...' and 'this comprises of...'. One is correct English, the other is not. Whether or not 'revert' has become a buzz-word is irrelevant once it makes sense - and as seamus points out, it does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    op just reply to the mail saying


    "off fuck"

    Please revert.........


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