American working in Ireland?

coco200066

Please excuse, if I am posting this in the wrong place.

I am from Dublin, living in Texas and I am married to an American, yeppie for me lol. He works in the IT industry.

Anyway, my quest is, as we plan to move back home in the near future, what does my husband need to do to be able to work legally in Ireland?

Can he just come home with me and work straight off the bat or will he have a waiting period? If so how long are we talking about?

Any help with this will be most appreciated.

Agent Smith

as an american citizen, married to an irish citizen, he would automaticly get resident status (not citizenship)

he would have to register with the imergration board, but realisticly, there shouldnt be any major issues with him getting his work visa.

Croc

He will need to register with Garda Immigration as an Alien, they should then issue him with a Stamp 4 and An Aliens registration Card.

Stamp 4 will let him work same as if he were an E.U. Citizen. The first stamp will be good for 1 Year, at the end of that he will have to renew it, normally straightforward enough. The 2nd renewal is normally for 4 years giving a total of 5 years. After that he can if he wishes apply for citizenship.

You will have to accompany him and prove you are an E.U. Citizen and you are both married etc. So bring you Passport wedding Cert etc.

coco200066

Ok so if I am understanding correctly. When we decide to go home for good. They hubby doesn't need to do anything special before hand. We just go to our local Garda station upon arrival or there abouts, they register him and then he is good to go to look and apply for work and then after 5 years he can apply for citizenship?

Awesome!

Croc

coco200066 wrote: »

Ok so if I am understanding correctly. When we decide to go home for good. They hubby doesn't need to do anything special before hand. We just go to our local Garda station upon arrival or there abouts, they register him and then he is good to go to look and apply for work and then after 5 years he can apply for citizenship?

Awesome!

Not quite, (When you arrive in Dublin he will get an entry stamp on his passport good for 90 days) you have to go to Garda Immigration, which In Dublin is located In Harcourt Square (I think), assuming you intend living in Dublin. Otherwise your local District Headquarters.


But overall pretty straight forward

B.T.W. once he is registered he will have to get a PPS number etc, would advise he do that as soon as he gets the Stamp, helps when looking for a job

coco200066

Thank you....and I am sure they would tell him where to go for the PPS number etc right.

Really appreciate all your responses...thanks guys.

Croc

I would assume so but don't bank on it, anyway you will be with him.

coco200066

Please God that would be the plan! Thanks again for all the info.

Agent Smith

coco200066 wrote: »

Please God that would be the plan! Thanks again for all the info.

Prepare to queue for a LONG time, from early in the morning.

i may be wrong, but i'm pretty sure the new registeration place is on burg quay.

craichoe

I believe you need to organise all this BEFORE you come to Ireland, you cannot get a residents permit when you are there, he may need a background check and to fill out a questionaire etc.

Contact your local Irish embassy and they'll advise you of whats needed.

AFAIK this is the way it works for all colleagues of mine that hail from the USA

helimachoptor

Agent Smith wrote: »

Prepare to queue for a LONG time, from early in the morning.

i may be wrong, but i'm pretty sure the new registeration place is on burg quay.

Yep its on the quays, I used to walk by it to work everyday. You will need to be there very early or you will spend the whole day in the Q, good luck!

Mrs OBumble

Croc wrote: »

Not quite, (When you arrive in Dublin he will get an entry stamp on his passport good for 90 days) you have to go to Garda Immigration, which In Dublin is located In Harcourt Square (I think), assuming you intend living in Dublin. Otherwise your local District Headquarters.

Garda Immigration is in different places in some towns, eg in Galway it's in the Lisbonn estate somewhere.

Some other useful sites for him (you'll know some already, but some will be all-new to you too):

* www.workingandliving.com
* www.emigrant.ie/living
* www.revenue.ie
* www.entemp.ie
* www.ireland.com
* www.daft.ie
* www.ireland-now.com

coco200066

Thank you everyone for all your help. And for all those links.

I will get with the Embassy also and see what they say.

coco200066

My brother just told me that he spoke with someone at the Dail, he was told that my US Hubby could get a visa for three months only to work in Ireland but then would be illegal. He would get citizenship after a year.

Is this true?

If so how do all the American's in Ireland manage to earn any money while they are waiting on citizenship?

As the hubby is in the IT field, are there any work permits he could apply for that would bide us over till his citizenship kicked in?

Buffman

This may help you:

http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/WP09000003

And for any US citizens:

http://www.dfa.ie/home/index.aspx?id=80827

coco200066

Thank you so much.

So if we have to go the visa route, that new one year deal. Will that mean he will have to leave at the end of it or can he apply for something else or can he reapply?

Buffman

coco200066 wrote: »

Thank you so much.

So if we have to go the visa route, that new one year deal. Will that mean he will have to leave at the end of it or can he apply for something else or can he reapply?

The 1 year deal is more suited to a working holiday, though I'm sure you can apply to stay on.

Everything is treated on a case by case basis. You should give the INIS a call or email to see what your best course of action will be, and for a definite answer. http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/WP07000003
As your Irish I'd imagine you can sort a lot of it out with the embassy before you come over.

Xiney

I am the spouse of an Irish citizen so I've been through the process. Unless things have changed since September 07, your husband does not need to get a visa, he needs to register with the Guards and get a stamp 4. Mine is valid until my passport expires.

esharknz

http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/WP07000024

It's not changed at all. A simple process for those who do not need a visa to enter Ireland (including Americans).

coco200066

Xiney wrote: »

I am the spouse of an Irish citizen so I've been through the process. Unless things have changed since September 07, your husband does not need to get a visa, he needs to register with the Guards and get a stamp 4. Mine is valid until my passport expires.

So when we arrive in Ireland, bring him down to the Garda station to fill out paper work and get a Stamp 4

Then he will be considered resident, NOT a citizen, something to follow up on.

He does not need a visa....but will he be able to work, does he need something else for that?

I will call the offices Monday too.

coco200066

Xiney wrote: »

I am the spouse of an Irish citizen so I've been through the process. Unless things have changed since September 07, your husband does not need to get a visa, he needs to register with the Guards and get a stamp 4. Mine is valid until my passport expires.

So when we arrive in Ireland, bring him down to the Garda station to fill out paper work and get a Stamp 4

Then he will be considered resident, NOT a citizen, something to follow up on.

He does not need a visa....but will he be able to work, does he need something else for that? How long was it before you could Legally work in Ireland and did you have to do something else?

The reason I ask is that my Brother was telling me that my hubby could only get a three month working permit upon arrival and after that it couldn't be renewed and it would only be when he became a citizen that he could legally work again, around 18 months? That seems off to me.

I will call the offices Monday too.

esharknz

coco200066 wrote: »

So when we arrive in Ireland, bring him down to the Garda station to fill out paper work and get a Stamp 4

Then he will be considered resident, NOT a citizen, something to follow up on.

He does not need a visa....but will he be able to work, does he need something else for that? How long was it before you could Legally work in Ireland and did you have to do something else?

The reason I ask is that my Brother was telling me that my hubby could only get a three month working permit upon arrival and after that it couldn't be renewed and it would only be when he became a citizen that he could legally work again, around 18 months? That seems off to me.

I will call the offices Monday too.

He will be granted a stamp 4 allowing a person to work without a work permit, so once in receipt of this, he can start work immediately. No additional visas/paper work is required. I know this because I'll be going through a similar process in a few months time. http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/Stamps explains the different 'stamps' in Irish immigration.
Your brother is incorrect. Firstly, spouses of Irish nationals must reside in Ireland for three years (after the marriage has taken place) to be eligible for naturalisation. I think your brother may be referring to what may happen (not the best way to go about it) with a visa required national coming to live in ireland with their Irish spouse

coco200066

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/moving-country/moving-to-ireland/rights-of-residence-in-ireland/registration-of-non-eea-nationals-in-ireland


Stamp number Issued to

4 Spouses and dependants of Irish and EEA nationals, Convention and Programme refugees and people granted leave to remain. They are permitted to work without an employment permit or business permission.

4 (EU FAM)

Family members of EU nationals who have exercised their right to move to and live in Ireland. They are permitted to work without an employment permit or business permission.

Raiser

I wish you all the best with this and don't want to be at all negative - but please take stock of the current economic situation here when evaluating all of your plans.

- Ireland is a little bit bleak right now and the future looks set to become a little short of horrific for some time before any optimistic future might prevail.

coco200066

I hear ya....unfortunately it is the same everywhere and especially in the U.S. at the minute, although the economy is not the reason for us leaving. As it is bad everywhere, it is a perfect time to make a new start somewhere else, not losing anything in changing scenery.

DanInRealTime

coco, how did things end up going for you? I'm living in Pennsylvania (married to a local girl) and we'll be moving back sometime in the next couple of years.

Eoin

Please don't bump old threads, the OP hasn't logged on to the site in well over a year.