Top Gear 23-Nov-2008

ninty9er

Nearly forgot again!!!

ninty9er

How about that Jag eh?? Clarkson looked gutted to make it!

HashSlinging

damn missed it.

ciarsd

Brutal show IMO tonight.. Loved the Zonda of course... that eco drive was far from the truth and was just a bit, how can I put it, average for TG.

L-M

Hah, Veyron my arse. All that wait for it to come on, and come fourth. Then ten seconds later to get knocked to fifth. Oh wow lol...

Would of liked to heard what tips they used to save fuel, but sure it's Top Gear:D

ninty9er

Limerick-man wrote: »

Would of liked to heard what tips they used to save fuel, but sure it's Top Gear:D

Turn on as much electrics as you can and ignore the range : 0 km warning!

projectmayhem

Good show. Nothing spectacular but very factually entertaining

Holsten

Needs more Stig.

pburns

What I always suspected about the Veyron - overweight, overly complex, overpriced.

JC looked genuinely disappointed. TG have been bigging up the Veyron for ages but what's top of their board? A brick called a Gumbert that noones ever heard of:rolleyes:

I know the lap time around a tight little track isn't everything but it just goes to show the Bugatti is just an overwrought GT cruiser.

positron

Missed first 10 mins, but the rest was okay, a bit flat - probably not the usual camera man.

bmcgrath

That jag was pretty amazing and apparently had some spare still left in the tank.... WOW

pburns

...had to laugh at Clarkson flirting with the really cute blonde girl behind him while reading the 'news'...

They must drag all the good looking women to the front of the audience to satisfy the male viewership - there are always hotties hanging out almost tantilisingly out of shot while one of the 3 heads are talking...

Ugly blokes in T-shirts are towards the back...

Seth Brundle

bmcgrath wrote: »

That jag was pretty amazing and apparently had some spare still left in the tank.... WOW

It got something like 50mpg and yet it had potential to do another 100+miles. Therefore there was still quite a bit of fuel left inside her. Were they telling porkies about the reserve or is the fuel gauge really crap in it?

L-M

kbannon wrote: »

It got something like 50mpg and yet it had potential to do another 100+miles. Therefore there was still quite a bit of fuel left inside her. Were they telling porkies about the reserve or is the fuel gauge really crap in it?

I'd say it has a huuuggee tank as well lol.

L-M

pburns wrote: »

...had to laugh at Clarkson flirting with the really cute blonde girl behind him while reading the 'news'...

They must drag all the good looking women to the front of the audience to satisfy the male viewership - there are always hotties hanging out almost tantilisingly out of shot while one of the 3 heads are talking...

Ugly blokes in T-shirts are towards the back...

Haha +1. Myself and the cousin were saying the same thing lol.

bmcgrath

kbannon wrote: »

It got something like 50mpg and yet it had potential to do another 100+miles. Therefore there was still quite a bit of fuel left inside her. Were they telling porkies about the reserve or is the fuel gauge really crap in it?

Hehe yea seems crazy.
When I drove my uncles XJ sport over in the Lake district this year I brought the consumption down to 8mpg....
It was a 4.0 V8 Supercharged though and a lot of fun to drive on those twisty roads!

Seth Brundle

Limerick-man wrote: »

I'd say it has a huuuggee tank as well lol.

Didn't CLarkson say that it was 18 gallons (which is huge!)?

edit: typo fixed

L-M

kbannon wrote: »

Didn't CLarkson say that it was 19 gallons (which is huge!)?

Was that sarcasm? Lol i don't know.

I don't know tank sizes, but it's almost twice the size that the Polo had, 10 gallons.

Cmar-Ireland

Anyone notice the big dent on the right hand side sill on the Veyron? Stiggy must have been trying very hard to get a low time.

paddydriver

Damn, I missed it. Did they get the Veyron around the track? How did it do?

L-M

paddydriver wrote: »

Damn, I missed it. Did they get the Veyron around the track? How did it do?

Crap. 1:18 or something. 5th place.

paddydriver

That's fairly brutal for the veyron... am downloading the torrent now to take a look. Thanks for the quick reply:)

mike65

That 4 door Lambo was gourgeous, even prettier than the blonde Clarkson had a word with.

Mike

RichyX

pburns wrote: »

They must drag all the good looking women to the front of the audience to satisfy the male viewership - there are always hotties hanging out almost tantilisingly out of shot while one of the 3 heads are talking...

I've noticed that myself.
The production team must know their viewership fairly well

TheBazman

RichyX wrote: »

I've noticed that myself.
The production team must know their viewership fairly well

+1 it's pretty obvious alright

TheBazman

pburns wrote: »

What I always suspected about the Veyron - overweight, overly complex, overpriced.

JC looked genuinely disappointed. TG have been bigging up the Veyron for ages but what's top of their board? A brick called a Gumbert that noones ever heard of:rolleyes:

I know the lap time around a tight little track isn't everything but it just goes to show the Bugatti is just an overwrought GT cruiser.

I'm not sure that you can say that just the Veyron is overpriced given the Zonda F Roadster costs £850k. You could say all supercars are overpriced for what they are. The price is where it is to guarantee exclusivity (Aston One 77 over £1m I think)

I must say I am disappointed by the actual lap time of the Veyron given that from the start line it would have pulled out a big lead over the Zonda as well as on the straight, and still was slower. What amazed me is how steady the Veyron was - it looked like it was going around 50mph most of the time. It looked like the Stig wasnt really pushing it (I know he was, but that was the way it looked). I suppose the Veyron is more of a road cruising supercar than a track focussed supercar like the Gumpert

Ta me anseo

The fact that the Jag had some diesel left in the tank is a little misleading I thought. Those cars are designed to protect the fuel system by not allowing you to empty it completely. With a couple of gallons remaining it simulates a misfire for a short distance before cutting the fuel altogether. In reality, Clarkson was probably just seconds away from not making it. Either way, it was by far the most impressive car though. 50 something mpg from a 2.7 twin turbo!!! :eek:

Biro

TheBazman wrote: »

I'm not sure that you can say that just the Veyron is overpriced given the Zonda F Roadster costs £850k. You could say all supercars are overpriced for what they are. The price is where it is to guarantee exclusivity (Aston One 77 over £1m I think)

I must say I am disappointed by the actual lap time of the Veyron given that from the start line it would have pulled out a big lead over the Zonda as well as on the straight, and still was slower. What amazed me is how steady the Veyron was - it looked like it was going around 50mph most of the time. It looked like the Stig wasnt really pushing it (I know he was, but that was the way it looked). I suppose the Veyron is more of a road cruising supercar than a track focussed supercar like the Gumpert

I wonder sometimes how hard the Stig tries with some cars and not with others. The RX8 got 2 different times by the Stig when he took it around twice. A better time when Clarkson tested and loved it and a worse time when Hammond was recommending it over the Brera and TT.
When Tiff tested the Veyron he turned off the traction control and threw it around a bit. Looks like the Stig didn't last night and normally he does. Also I've seen a launch video of a Veyron and it looked way faster than last night's lauch from the line. Still though, it's not slow!

Dr. Dodger

Yeh Veyron just isn't built for that really. All white Veyron still looked deadly. Is there a paint job for that car that doesn't appeal to people! I haven't seen one I didn't like, the car is just a s*xy b*tch!

TheBazman

Dr. Dodger wrote: »

Yeh Veyron just isn't built for that really. All white Veyron still looked deadly. Is there a paint job for that car that doesn't appeal to people! I haven't seen one I didn't like, the car is just a s*xy b*tch!

Wouldnt be a huge fan of this paint job

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/CARS/news/hermes_bugatti_veyron_worlds_first_pics.html

jozi

It was pretty amazing the Jag made it all the way and him booting it in France with every electrical thing he had on!

Maybe they didn't have the Veyron in 1001hp mode? :pac: I was talking to a mate last nite about it and we compared power to weight rations. If i remeber right the Veyron was 400bhp/ton and the Zonda F was over 500bhp/ton it's not all that surprising the Zonda was faster if you look at I that way.

EDIT:

http://www.supercars.net/cars/3313.html wrote:

Gumpert Apollo: bhp/weight: 590.91 bhp per tonne
Veyron: bhp/weight: 490.45 bhp per tonne (higher than I originally thought)
Zonda F Roadster: bhp/weight 507.81 bhp per tonne

Not as much between the Veyron and Zonda as I 1st thought!

peasant

moved from motors

smashey

I had to go out half way through it. Did they make it to Blackpool on time?

will1977

When is last night repeated ?

staker

all made it on time except the captain!

jhegarty

jozi wrote: »

It was pretty amazing the Jag made it all the way and him booting it in France with every electrical thing he had on!

I'd be very surprised if he had those one except for the few second we saw on camera...

smashey

staker wrote: »

all made it on time except the captain!

I should have known.

staker

i can't see when it's being repeated but it's worth it to see May's permutations and calculations having absolutely no bearing on the outcome.....again. a good episode and a good challenge.

Raytown Rocks

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00ftlv6/Top_Gear_Series_12_Episode_4_(new_series)/

Its on the BBCi player this week.

Dr. Dodger

Dr. Dodger wrote: »

Yeh Veyron just isn't built for that really. All white Veyron still looked deadly. Is there a paint job for that car that doesn't appeal to people! I haven't seen one I didn't like, the car is just a s*xy b*tch!

TheBazman wrote: »

Wouldnt be a huge fan of this paint job

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/CARS/news/hermes_bugatti_veyron_worlds_first_pics.html

touche!

I'd still take it though... :P

Gekko

I thought this was a great episode - I thought the race made great viewing and it even incorporated a relevant topic about fuel economy.

The Jag was very impressive and the VW wasn't too bad either.