Judo: IJA/Judo Ireland

samhail

Anyone close enough to Judo in Ireland to have an opinion on the split in Judo in Ireland from the IJA and Judo Ireland ?

Im coaching under the new Judo Ireland system, seems good in the fact your learning judo more on the move.

arybvtcw0eolkf

samhail wrote: »

Im coaching under the new Judo Ireland system, seems good in the fact your learning judo more on the move.

What does that mean?.

thomasjad

all i know is that judo ireland broke away,theyre not recognised internationally so as for international comps and even the olympics i dont think they can...ija are of higher quality i think,any time ija people go to judo ireland comps or the schools they always kick ass

samhail

let me guess your IJA

thomasjad

dam right

Judomad

thomasjad wrote: »

dam right

but it wasnt a biased comment, all truth, OP answer Mairts question as im intrested to know what the f*ck you mean too.......

samhail

Judomad wrote: »

but it wasnt a biased comment, all truth, OP answer Mairts question as im intrested to know what the f*ck you mean too.......

excuse me ?
what are you on about talking like that to me ? uncalled for.

If you have any interest in the different styles of Judo then try the different classes out before you bias your replies.

Pride Fighter

samhail wrote: »

excuse me ?
what are you on about talking like that to me ? uncalled for.

If you have any interest in the different styles of Judo then try the different classes out before you bias your replies.

You still did not answer the question posed by Mairt. How does one learn judo more on the move in Judo Ireland over the other one? What does that even mean?

samhail

I didnt.

If you are interested i do hope you find out why there was a split in Judo in Ireland.

Nothingcompares

thomasjad wrote: »

all i know is that judo ireland broke away,theyre not recognised internationally so as for international comps and even the olympics i dont think they can...ija are of higher quality i think,any time ija people go to judo ireland comps or the schools they always kick ass

This is all bull****.

Judo Ireland broke away because the IJA is incompetent. People in IJA recognise this but didn't think it was worthwhile in starting a new organisation.

International recognition is irrelevant. Nobody in Ireland will be attending Olympic games for a long time. The infrastructure isn't there to develop high level athletes. Any Judo player who is good enough to go to international tournaments will not be biased by the logo on their booklet.

Ija/JI is fairly irrelevant when it comes to quality. The majority of people in the JI organisation are fairly new to judo as JI does a great job of getting new people, young and old involved in the sport. All the established judo clubs with the best players are in the IJA just because they're already in the IJA. There isn't any reason to suspect there is a difference in the quality of coaching between organisations, if there is a difference it's due to other reasons, reasons irrelevant to the acronym.

Obviously the fact you mention the judo schools thing you're probably a young person who hasn't been in judo that long and you're just parroting what someone else has told you. But I'd imagine the reason the IJA people do better than JI people in schools' comps is because a lot of the those kids took up judo much earlier and therefore are much better because they've more time on the mat. A lot of the kids in the schools tournaments only started judo within the last year or two.

I've done judo with both organisations and I appreciate the style in which the JI are trying to instill in their players but I find that the difference in style between JI clubs and IJA clubs is no different then the different in styles between different IJA clubs.

Fundamentally, judo is judo and IJA/JI is just politics above most peoples heads.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Nothingcompares wrote: »

Fundamentally, judo is judo and IJA/JI is just politics above most peoples heads.

+1.

And thats exactly where I leave it too.

arybvtcw0eolkf

samhail wrote: »

I didnt.

If you are interested i do hope you find out why there was a split in Judo in Ireland.

Your posts not making a whole lot of sense.

Sort of an internet imitation of a sacrifice throw, started out as a good idea (to you) but fell flat on its arse

Judomad

samhail wrote: »

excuse me ?
what are you on about talking like that to me ? uncalled for.

If you have any interest in the different styles of Judo then try the different classes out before you bias your replies.

you still haven't answered the question put to you!!!!!! how is any "system" of judo better than another.....id love to know as iv done judo for 16 years, represented Ireland for the last 8 years, done international training camps, trained in probably 15 different clubs in Ireland and roughly 8-10 different european clubs and there is no better way of teaching, its all down to superior technique, not the "system" of a certain judo association....so re-read your last comment which i have bolded and tell me again what i should do to before replying??? seriously you sound like a troll...what club are you coaching in? where did you do your coaching course? what grade are you? better still...dont hide behind your boards name...whats your real name? really looking forward to your reply...should be very intresting...

samhail

i bow to your superior experience on this matter.
I apologise for attempting to see people opinions on this matter.

actually i dont give a flying...

Scramble

I'm not a judoka and to be honest I don't intend to take up the sport, but I am curious about the differences in 'style' and approach to coaching that have sort of been alluded to in this thread.

Im coaching under the new Judo Ireland system, seems good in the fact your learning judo more on the move.

I've done judo with both organisations and I appreciate the style in which the JI are trying to instill in their players but I find that the difference in style between JI clubs and IJA clubs is no different then the different in styles between different IJA clubs.

Whether they are succeeding or not, can someone fill me in on what type of approach JI are attempting as distinct from the IJA? Does it have to do with the way competing and grading is approached, emphasis placed on conditioning, randori... what?

Judomad

samhail wrote: »

i bow to your superior experience on this matter.
I apologise for attempting to see people opinions on this matter.

actually i dont give a flying...

you have answered no questions you have been asked on this thread, you are trolling this forum so crawl back under your rock for xmas and dont come back until you think of some answers for us.

Judomad

Scramble wrote: »

I'm not a judoka and to be honest I don't intend to take up the sport, but I am curious about the differences in 'style' and approach to coaching that have sort of been alluded to in this thread.





Whether they are succeeding or not, can someone fill me in on what type of approach JI are attempting as distinct from the IJA? Does it have to do with the way competing and grading is approached, emphasis placed on conditioning, randori... what?

Scramble, as far as i know there are no different "systems" of teaching, judo is done of the same syllabus, up until 1st dan it is done of the nage-no-kata, techniques on this are shown to any young or new judoka, there is however alot of variable for the actual doing of a certain technique, by this i mean everybody varies techniques to suit themselves, not everybody would do an ippon seoi nage exactly the same, some may do it from a sleeve grip, some from a lapel, some may be tought one way and told not to use another, it all depends on the coaching.
As far as the OP goes i would ignore his posts as he seems to be a troll and is not making any sense at all. maybe he is jigoro kano and we just dont know it yet, but if thats correct JI have drafted a hot bit of stuff on there coaching team:D:D:D:D

yomchi

samhail wrote: »

Anyone close enough to Judo in Ireland to have an opinion on the split in Judo in Ireland from the IJA and Judo Ireland ?

Im coaching under the new Judo Ireland system, seems good in the fact your learning judo more on the move.

OP in fairness, you did make a statement here that needs clarifying for all the other posters. Instead of dancing around what you've said can you be specific as the thread is ridiculous due to the ambiguous nature of your opening post, we're on the verge of a locking.

Ta.

note: for those that reported the post, I'll let it run and see if the OP gives a response.

samhail

I have no interest in replying here as i have said.
This is has turned into a political based thread rather than a thread relating to players.

I feel i have been personally attacked in this thread and had hoped that a mod of this forum would have locked it a while ago. Obviously you feel more inclinded to the IJA side of things.

Should i go to admin to ask them to lock it ?

yomchi

This is has turned into a political based thread rather than a thread relating to players

But yet your opening line is...

Anyone close enough to Judo in Ireland to have an opinion on the split in Judo in Ireland from the IJA and Judo Ireland

Intelligent.

Obviously you feel more inclinded to the IJA side of things

My friend, I wouldn't know a randori from a tandoori. :rolleyes:

Locked.