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Anthony Daly Rumoured To Be Taking The Dublin Job?

  • 22-11-2008 7:52pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 139 ✭✭


    Does anybody know anything about this? I've seen it mentioned elsewhere by people whose information would have been accurate in the past.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    I heard this on Newstalk earlier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2008/1122/dublin.html

    Shame if it's true because he'll be missed on the Sunday Game - always enjoyed his input and even more so when he was paired with Cyril Farrell for the lives.

    Great coup for the Dubs though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    I am delighted if true, he would be a great manager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    This'll be a huge boost for Dublin hurling if it goes ahead. Absolutely delighted!:)


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 235 ✭✭Mullet


    I am delighted. He is to be ratified at monday nights county board meeting. A real coup for dublin hurling.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    It will help Dublin hurling alright. He has done extremely well with Kilmoyley hurling club in Kerry, who he is currently the manager of


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭eroo


    I am delighted if true, he would be a great manager.

    +1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Great to see. Always enjoyed and valued his input on the Sunday Game. A good step for Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Yavvy


    Great news ! I think if anyone can bring the current team on he can. I think he needs time in the role tho.. cant expect too much from him in 2009. I suppose his main goal is to retain league status for now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,742 ✭✭✭blackbelt


    Great news,I think he will bring the team on to the next step,a Leinster Final should be on the cards in the next few years.

    Can't forget Tommy Naughton and all the work he did.He provided the platform for Daly to work on.What are the odds McCrabbe comes back and is on the same wavelength with the players and managers.Him and Dotsy O Callaghan wiould be a very dangerous combination.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭cruiserweight


    Seems like another positive step for the Dublin hurlers. They still have a long way to go but are heading in the right direction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    Has this been confirmed by the county board tonight?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter



    Anthony Daly has been ratified as the new Dublin hurling manager following a meeting of the county board on Monday night.

    The RTÉ analyst captained Clare to All-Ireland glory in 1995 and 1997 and spent three years in charge of the Banner.

    More recently, he managed Kilmoyley to victory over Causeway in the Kerry County final last month.

    Daly succeeds Tommy Naughton after agreeing an initial two-year term with the Metropolitans.

    From http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/championship/2008/1124/dalya_dublin.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    So what's the aim for him now? A Leinster final place will be even tougher to achieve with Galway and Antrim now in the mix, but a win against any of the big 9 in the Championship would be a huge boost.

    A win against Antrim in the league is a must though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    deise59 wrote: »
    So what's the aim for him now? A Leinster final place will be even tougher to achieve with Galway and Antrim now in the mix, but a win against any of the big 9 in the Championship would be a huge boost.

    A win against Antrim in the league is a must though.

    The aim is maintain Division 1 status and get to a Leinster final. We can do it, if we can run Cork close and draw with Wexford last year we can do more this year. We will beat Antrim easily in the championship and if we get Offaly or Wexford in the Leinster semi we can beat them as well. Also if Galway can somehow beat Kilkenny we could beat Galway in a subsequent Leinster final.
    I am an eternal optimist though, so I admit what I just said is only a best possible scenario and will not happen in all likelyhood.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 220 ✭✭Declan30


    Maybe now Anthony Daly will start to show what sort of a manager he can be,
    As when he manged clare he still had players on the team with who he played with.This never works as you are bound to have loyalty to players and that is fine but sometimes it could be for the benfit of the player rather than the Team.

    Have Seen Dublin play hurling a lot of the last 5 yrs and i must say they are improving at such a pace.
    When the played Limerick in the Minor semi final in kilkenny in 2005 you could see then that 3 or 4 of that team were made for senior hurling.

    Lets hope that Anthony Daly can bring you on further and be competive iN Leinster.

    Hurling and Lenister needs You.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭Evil_Clown


    I am delighted to see Dalo back in intercounty management, I wish him all the best with the Dubs
    Good crop of quality young players coming through and I guess he must see great potential in them to take a job so far from his home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    Should be a good appointment - a lot better than Carey would've been anyway for sure. And Nicky English might have had issues with certain players after his punditry (although I'm not sure Dublin have really been on his radar).

    A good league campaign would give much-needed momentum for what will hopefully be a long summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    yahoo_moe wrote: »
    Should be a good appointment - a lot better than Carey would've been anyway for sure. And Nicky English might have had issues with certain players after his punditry (although I'm not sure Dublin have really been on his radar).

    A good league campaign would give much-needed momentum for what will hopefully be a long summer.

    Daly has done more punditry than English, but it wont be an issue anyway imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭Browney7


    I think his appointment might be a year too late.
    Dublin had a great chance last year to get to a final but now with Galway entering the equation I think everyone knows it will be much a tougher task.

    Saying that he is the best man for the job and I hope Dublin progress under him for the good of Hurling


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭SIBHCHEVIE


    Very happy about this appointment, its great for Leinster Hurling. Dublin have been doing really well over the past few years and should've beaten Wexford last year but fell at the last hurdle (i think doubt entered their head and that was it) but Daly will get rid of this and he will keep them focused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    I really hope Wex, Gal and Dub step it up four or five notches and the Leinster championship will truly kick ass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    Daly has done more punditry than English, but it wont be an issue anyway imo.
    True but for me, English has actually expressed opinions. Whereas Daly tends to follow the Jamie Redknapp model of "sympathetic punditry" - "Ah but sure, y'know, Michael, it's a very tough game. I mean, you can see they're all trying their best. Christ, those Kilkenny lads are good, y'know?". Don't get me wrong - I enjoy his analysis but I'd never consider him a maker of enemies.

    But I agree it won't really be an issue either way so side point really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    yahoo_moe wrote: »
    True but for me, English has actually expressed opinions. Whereas Daly tends to follow the Jamie Redknapp model of "sympathetic punditry" - "Ah but sure, y'know, Michael, it's a very tough game. I mean, you can see they're all trying their best. Christ, those Kilkenny lads are good, y'know?". Don't get me wrong - I enjoy his analysis but I'd never consider him a maker of enemies.

    But I agree it won't really be an issue either way so side point really.

    Apologies if im takin this off topic a bit but its just something that you mentioned there that has sparked something iv suspected for a while now that perhaps Daly isnt the greatest reader or judge of the game, i would have no doubt he has the heart for it and strikes me as a very good leader and motivator but i have serious reservations about he's ability tactically. I havent heard he's backroom team yet but to me this will be vital because im pretty sure that Daly's knowledge of the Dublin club scene would be patchy at best so having someone familiar with that will be of paramount importance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭cruiserweight


    Apologies if im takin this off topic a bit but its just something that you mentioned there that has sparked something iv suspected for a while now that perhaps Daly isnt the greatest reader or judge of the game, i would have no doubt he has the heart for it and strikes me as a very good leader and motivator but i have serious reservations about he's ability tactically. I havent heard he's backroom team yet but to me this will be vital because im pretty sure that Daly's knowledge of the Dublin club scene would be patchy at best so having someone familiar with that will be of paramount importance.

    That is an interesting perspective. As manager of Clare he had a lot of players who had been there and done that and in that respect it was an easier job. In Dublin he is at the opposite end of the spectrum with a lot of raw and inexperience players. The task is very different and more difficult. Despite the progress that Dublin have made in recent years, based on Championship results I would consider them to be behind Wexford and Offaly, with the addition of Galway that would make them the 5th best team in Leinster.

    Slightly off topic, I think that Wexford appointing Bonnar will turn out to be a better move than Dublin appointing Daly :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭BOSTIK


    Whatever about his merits as a team manager, Daly was certainly an excellent reader of the play as a player. He always seemed to be in the right place, and placed some good deliveries into his forwards; very commendable for a man who certainly wasn’t blessed with light footwork either.

    His time over Clare saw him fail to address obvious issues such as finding replacements for Brian Lohan & Seanie Mc, nobody in Tipp will ever forget the absolute roasting that the extremely limited Micheál Webster dished out to the former in 2005, while the introduction of Neil Ronan on the same player swung the game for Cork later that Summer.

    The soft qualifier draws Clare got during the 2004-06 period concealed some awful performances from them in the Munster championship during that time, particularly in 2004 when after shipping an 18 point walloping from Waterford they were rewarded with Laois & then Offaly. The following year they nearly lost to Offaly in Portlaoise before giving Cork a fright in Croke Park. Daly won’t enjoy such a luxury this time.

    However, as mentioned by someone above, he won’t be harbouring any loyalty to specific Dublin players, also he does have some decent material to work with, but really needs the Dublin defence to start playing cute instead of fancy. Ronan Fallon is a fine hurler and will be well able for anything that’s thrown at him, but they have to sort full back out good and fast, Hiney plays like a wing back when he’s there, maybe Tomás Brady might be a better idea. Upfront there’s O’Callaghan obviously, but they’ll also need a centre forward who can playmake as well as hurl, these lads are hard to find.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭Evil_Clown


    Apologies if im takin this off topic a bit but its just something that you mentioned there that has sparked something iv suspected for a while now that perhaps Daly isnt the greatest reader or judge of the game

    What are you basing this on ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    something that you mentioned there that has sparked something iv suspected for a while now that perhaps Daly isnt the greatest reader or judge of the game
    A while ago I might have agreed based on his style of punditry but having listened to him more carefully for exactly this reason, I actually think he's a pretty decent analyser of the game.

    He's generally spot on in terms of what's gone right in a game - as for what's gone wrong, my own suspicion would be that it's just not in his nature to lambast amateur players that he feels are doing their best on TV and that he prefers to concentrate on what the centre-forward did right, rather than on what the centre-back did wrong. But we'll see - certainly his Clare side were much more of a 'heart' side than a team set out really well tactically.
    BOSTIK wrote:
    His time over Clare saw him fail to address obvious issues such as finding replacements for Brian Lohan & Seanie Mc
    I'm not overly familiar with the Clare club scene but I seriously doubt that there were ready-made replacements for two players of that ability and stature knocking about that he failed to find.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Evil_Clown wrote: »
    What are you basing this on ?

    As i said its just a personal suspicion and i think he made some glaringly obvious errors in he's time over Clare but I will not judge the man yet and perhaps he wasnt ready for that job at the time and has learnt alot since, I was just trying to sound a small bit of caution to some who may feel that this is guarenteed to be a success, for the sake of hurling i hope i am wrong and he takes Dublin to the next level, only time will tell!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    As i said its just a personal suspicion and i think he made some glaringly obvious errors in he's time over Clare but I will not judge the man yet and perhaps he wasnt ready for that job at the time and has learnt alot since, I was just trying to sound a small bit of caution to some who may feel that this is guarenteed to be a success, for the sake of hurling i hope i am wrong and he takes Dublin to the next level, only time will tell!!

    I don't think any Dublin fans or anybody involved in Dublin hurling feels that we are now guaranteed success. It'll take a lot of hard work to reach a Leinster final or to even be competitive with some of the top counties in the championship. What it is though, is a step in the right direction. It's a high-profile appointment of a man who has played and managed in the top echelon and that can only be good for Dublin hurling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    An Citeog wrote: »
    I don't think any Dublin fans or anybody involved in Dublin hurling feels that we are now guaranteed success. It'll take a lot of hard work to reach a Leinster final or to even be competitive with some of the top counties in the championship. What it is though, is a step in the right direction. It's a high-profile appointment of a man who has played and managed in the top echelon and that can only be good for Dublin hurling.

    Agreed and i think one of the major plusses is the respect the Dublin players will have for him and what he achieved as a player, they will think heres a guy who's county had won shag all for 80 odd years and suddenly won two all-irelands in 3 years maybe we can do something equally remarkable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭BOSTIK


    yahoo_moe wrote: »
    I'm not overly familiar with the Clare club scene but I seriously doubt that there were ready-made replacements for two players of that ability and stature knocking about that he failed to find.

    The two of them were in serious decline by the time Daly took over, but he made very little effort to try any other players in their places during the National Leagues. I always felt that he took the Clare job too early, as there was still a sizable no. of his old colleagues still about the place, and he obviously found it difficult to let them go.

    Contrast that with the time Nicky English took over in Tipp, only 2 years after he finished hurling with the county himself. He brought in a raft of hitherto unknown players, not all of them worked out, but it served Tipp a lot better, as 2001 showed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    BOSTIK wrote: »
    The two of them were in serious decline by the time Daly took over... and he obviously found it difficult to let them go.
    Think I misunderstood you slightly - I thought you were suggesting that he failed to replace them with players of similar quality, not that he should have replaced them earlier. On that, I don't know as I don't know what other options were around.


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