Bf gets odd over the smallest things

LegacyUser

Every few months my bf gives me the silent treatment over the smallest possible things. Now I will stress that this doesn't happen very often but when it does I get really upset. Last night we were out, he was drinking and I wasn't. When we got home he wanted some nookie and I wanted sleep. We've a great sex life and I'd normally be game ball but it was 1am, I was knackered and work in the morning. Now he's giving me the silent treatment.

It does my head in. I've asked him about it before and he says he just needs time to himself to get out of his mood. That's fair enough but it's always me that ends up saying sorry because it feels like I've done something wrong. I didn't sleep a wink last night over it. When he woke up this morning he wouldn't talk to me. I know he'll come home later and probably still won't take to me and then he'll snap out of it later this evening or tomorrow.

I don't really know what advice I'm looking for, just need a rant!

Beruthiel

He's a big sulk.
I wouldn't pander to it.

shellyboo

Beruthiel wrote: »

He's a big sulk.
I wouldn't pander to it.

+1

Leave him to his huff, don't let it bother you one bit, and if you REALLY want to annoy him, act like nothing's wrong and go on as normal Just ignore him basically until he snaps out of it... once you're not tip-toeing around him, in the proverbial doghouse, he'll realise there's no point in sulking at all.

MagicMarker

Try being a man, we have to put up with it every month for about a week or so.

If this happens every few months then is it really such a big deal? He's given you the advice you need, just leave him be and he'll get over it.

And stop saying sorry!!

MJOR

Don't apologise if you haven't done anything wrong.... TBH (ducks while waiting to be lynched) I think most men can be a bit like that at times!

Nevyn

It sounds like he is not happy and is sulking and talking it out on you.
Does he get over it if left alone or does he wait until you are miserable and saying sorry and trying fix things.

If he works his way out of it with minimal interaction from you then leave him to it and ignore.

If he does this until you are upset, worried and trying to make amends then that is emotional black mail
and he is using it to punish you, which is not a healthy sign in a relationship what so ever.

kiffer

argh123123 wrote: »

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It does my head in. I've asked him about it before and he says he just needs time to himself to get out of his mood. That's fair enough but it's always me that ends up saying sorry because it feels like I've done something wrong.
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I don't really know what advice I'm looking for, just need a rant!

Hey if you knew what you wanted to hear it wouldn't really be advice would it

shellyboo wrote: »

+1

Leave him to his huff, don't let it bother you one bit, and if you REALLY want to annoy him, act like nothing's wrong and go on as normal Just ignore him basically until he snaps out of it... once you're not tip-toeing around him, in the proverbial doghouse, he'll realise there's no point in sulking at all.

This is almost exactly what he has asked her to do.
He's in a sulk and he knows it. He doesn't want to hear her say sorry (esp. if it is some minor issue)

I do this too. Something goes wrong and I get annoyed, then I get annoyed at being annoyed over something silly and then you just need some time to calm down.
I imagine that it's very confusing from the other side...
Tip toeing / apologizing (for things that you shouldn't have to) is annoying/embarrassing enough to prolong a sulk.


EDIT: in fairness I don't sulk for days... and generally am not doing it as some sort of blackmail...

Caoimhín

Would a bit of sex kill ya?

Just close your eyes and think of England...

Nevyn

Caoimhín banned 1 week.

Wibbs

OK my quite mad unscientific take I think most overcomplicate this stuff and over dramatise it.

argh123123 wrote: »

I will stress that this doesn't happen very often

Ok which is cool.

but when it does I get really upset.

Then try to remember it's not very often and try not to get so upset. You pushing his buttons more and getting overly upset will just make him dig in more. It escalates the behaviour.

Last night we were out, he was drinking and I wasn't. When we got home he wanted some nookie and I wanted sleep. We've a great sex life and I'd normally be game ball but it was 1am, I was knackered and work in the morning. Now he's giving me the silent treatment.

OK that stuff happens.

It does my head in.

It's meant to, truth be told. At least mostly. It's also for him to work through his reason and mood.

I've asked him about it before and he says he just needs time to himself to get out of his mood.

Then listen to him.

That's fair enough

You may say the words, but as it "does your head in" you transmit it isnt fair enough. Again escalation.

but it's always me that ends up saying sorry because it feels like I've done something wrong.

Insecurity and sometimes you may have and sometimes he may have and sometimes it was just shít happens. He's plugging into that insecurity.

I didn't sleep a wink last night over it.

Which escalates you emotionally.

When he woke up this morning he wouldn't talk to me.

Then don't talk to him either. Just be pleasant and use the minimum of emotional fuss. Step back.

I know he'll come home later and probably still won't take to me and then he'll snap out of it later this evening or tomorrow.

I will put good money he would do that far quicker if you both don't escalate it.

I don't really know what advice I'm looking for, just need a rant!

Which is cool. OK my take? You may be the type of person who needs to talk it through. He may be the type of person that needs space and this is expressed in this silent treatment. Women tend to be the former, men the latter, though I know men and women who do the opposite.

You trying to talk him through it will not work, as much as him not talking through it will not work either. Diametrically opposed emotional coping/response methods. Hence the impasse.

Next time he does this. remember he does not think or react like you at these times. One of the biggest mistake people make in their dealings with others. They assume what works for them works for everyone. Then they get angry, frustrated and disappointed when it doesnt.

Hold your tongue. Don't rev up the emotions, apologise or if you are at fault, apologise just once. Don't make a big deal of it or it will make him respond as if it is a big deal. Tell him he needs quiet time and that's cool. Basically by your actions agree with him and meet him halfway in his emotional response mechanism. If you do this he will come halfway in his response too.

What you're doing now is pushing when he wants to pull. That just makes him pull away more. Now he gets something from this pulling away, beyond the space. He gets his ego validated, by your chase. Why would he give that up too quickly. Don't believe me? well when he's pulling away, what do you do? Precisely, you push. Why? you see him moving away. Your ego gets validated because you hope you can change his mind or stop him. Like a parent and child in the park and child runs off and the parent runs after it. If the parent stops and runs away the child will then very quickly run after the parent in 90% cases. Works with dogs, cats and humans.

Most people do this. It's down to insecurity under times of stress, big and small. Most people respond as if they were the child seeing the parent run away. Or respond like the child trying to get the ego boost from the attention of the parent. Both of you are being the "child", so try to act like the parent who stays still or walks slowly away.

Of course if he did this every week or month, then I would give a different take on it, but as you say it's rare so....

On Magicmarkers point about women every month. I would say in my experience except in cases of severe hormonal problems, the same pushing and pulling is in play. It's hightened by the hormonal shift, yes but it can be diffused by calm emotional responses.

My 2 cents anyway.

Jimmy Bottlehead

I do that too. Its when I know that I'm ticked off, but shouldn't be. So I just need to take some time to chill out and relax before coming back to the OH. If I didn't, I'd just get angry where its not deserved.

That said, its usually no more than a few hours at most for me.

Just leave him to it and give him space.

Karen_*

Does he completely ignore you along with this? Its just that giving someone the silent treatment, to me, seems very cruel. Its one thing getting annoyed and needing to cool down for a bit but for a couple of days?

When he snaps out of his mood tell him he'd need to think about snapping out of the silent treatment permenantly. Look how its affecting you!

Wibbs

Karen_* wrote: »

Does he completely ignore you along with this? Its just that giving someone the silent treatment, to me, seems very cruel. Its one thing getting annoyed and needing to cool down for a bit but for a couple of days?

Because one feeds the other. Now before I get hopped on for taking sides or some such, I'm not. As I said in my long winded post, most people, if not all to some degree or other do this, either on way or the other. Some are pushers, some are pullers. Some do it in one situation and not others.

When he snaps out of his mood tell him he'd need to think about snapping out of the silent treatment permenantly. Look how its affecting you!

That won't work, or will work for a short time. By telling him it's affecting her, that will reinforce it's effect in his head. She will be pushing him even more and he will respond by pulling more.

Look we all now people who in one relationship are back and forth like crazy people, then get into another relationship and they change completely. Why? because that pushing/pulling dynamic has changed. Most don't see this even if explained to them, or rather see it, but don't subconsciously believe it(usually due to habit and insecurity), or do both but revert back to child mode in moments of emotional stress.

People would rather be vindicated by existing (usually unhealthy beliefs)and score points than be happy. Maybe shrinks would say different, I dunno, but I wouldn't agree.

BTW I would give him simialr advice if he came here. His PI would likely read; "If there's a fight over something, my GF won't let it go/leave me alone. I don't want to deal with it and the more she won't let go the worse it makes me".

astrofool

There's a good book on what Wibbs is talking about called "Self defeating behaviors: ...." http://www.amazon.com/Self-Defeating-Behaviors-Yourself-Compulsions-Attitudes/dp/0062501690

In this case, simply looking at your own reaction could end up solving the problem entirely (although it would be beneficial for him to realise that his silent treatment is ulitmately self defeating).

Aurora Borealis

Wibbs you have it in a nut shell. Both reactions just strengthen the others and it's a viscious circle. OP I've been through it, torn my hair and damn near lost it completely. Crazy how we let ourselves get so wound up sometimes and how a simple tiff can throw you and turn your world upside down. OP I would follow Wibbs advice if I were you. No point getting so het up because you're the one in control of that and keeping calm isn't necessarily cowtowing either it's just looking after your own side of things, just give him a breather when he needs it and hopefully they'll become less frequent. If not and he's not willing to budge then that's a different story...

WindSock

MagicMarker wrote: »

Try being a man, we have to put up with it every month for about a week or so.

Yeah but at least you know when to expect it and why

Storm_rages

wow.. ok maybe i am taking this up all wrong..

But, your telling me because you were tired and refused to have sex with him, he has stopped talking (thank god my other half does not do that, we may never speak again)

He is not a child! I would be so annoyed if my other half did this. I'm all forgiving space, nothing like going for a walk to get your head sorted, but a day or two of being ignored deserves a quick sharp kick up the rear end..


My two cent!

LegacyUser

Thanks everyone.

Update: I took a half day today cuz I couldn't concentrate at work and went to town. On the way home I noticed his car wasn't in his work carpark (it's on the way home I always drive past) and when I got home he wasn't at home. This is HIGHLY unusual for him. He always comes home and chills out on the net after work. I rang him, no answer. I txt asking was he in his mams and he said yes, that he had to go back to work at 4 (I know this is a lie). I asked what time he'd be home at, he said 5.
I went out for a bit and came back at half 4 and he was at home. When I got in I tried to engage him in conversation. I asked him what the problem was. He said I'd given him grief on the way out last night and on the way home. We were absolutely fine though until I said I was tired and didn't want sex. I know everyone will kill me but I got upset. Said I was sorry, I didn't mean to give him grief, I was just tired. No he won't talk to me at all. I've asked does he want dinner. No.

What do I do now?
It's completely against everything I've ever done in the past to do nothing. At the moment we're both sitting in the living room not talking to each other. Normally he'd have snapped out of his mood by now and we'd be laughing and joking. I'm actually worried this time. He seems extremely pissed off.

Karen_*

Go against your instincts to beg forgiveness and make things right. Get up and walk out of the house and go somewhere like your mothers. Fight whatever urges you have to try to get him to talk and start being annoyed at the horrible treatment of you. Keep accepting this and its what you'll get every single time he's pissed off.

Storm_rages

Yea, i mean happens next time he wants sex? will you have to give in, in cause he does not talk to you!

he is not acting very well, keep telling yourself that.. Get angry at him... ( i don't mean fight with him, just don't take his ****.. and don't say sorry)

LegacyUser

Storm_rages wrote: »

Yea, i mean happens next time he wants sex? will you have to give in, in cause he does not talk to you!

he is not acting very well, keep telling yourself that.. Get angry at him... ( i don't mean fight with him, just don't take his ****.. and don't say sorry)

To be fair, I thought it was about the sex but I think it might have been a combination of that and the fact that I wasn't really the happiest about going out last night. Probably gave him more grief than he deserved.

So ye think I should head out for a while? At the moment we're both on different computers in the living room, not talking.

Wibbs

argh123123 wrote: »

Update: I took a half day today cuz I couldn't concentrate at work and went to town. On the way home I noticed his car wasn't in his work carpark (it's on the way home I always drive past) and when I got home he wasn't at home. This is HIGHLY unusual for him. He always comes home and chills out on the net after work. I rang him, no answer. I txt asking was he in his mams and he said yes, that he had to go back to work at 4 (I know this is a lie). I asked what time he'd be home at, he said 5.
I went out for a bit and came back at half 4 and he was at home. When I got in I tried to engage him in conversation. I asked him what the problem was. He said I'd given him grief on the way out last night and on the way home. We were absolutely fine though until I said I was tired and didn't want sex.

So he didn't mention the sex? OK sounds like the sex thing was the straw that broke the camels back on the night. Did you give him grief on the way there and back, maybe over his drinking? Is there any other reason you think he may have an issue. Not saying there's a good reason, or you are at fault, just maybe questions for you. Does he go to his mums often or would that be unusual?

I know everyone will kill me but I got upset. Said I was sorry, I didn't mean to give him grief, I was just tired. No he won't talk to me at all. I've asked does he want dinner. No.

Of course you got upset. Now I'm quite sure you will get people jumping in with the "how dare he!!!"s and they may well be right and very well meaning, but that's as much use to you now as a comb to a bald man. You want to sort this as quickly as possible. One way or the other.

IMHO to do this, first stop moving towards him emotionally. You've got the fear running strong. Fear of loss, fear of it really being your fault, fear of what he may do next, or not. All natural. The thing is natural or first response is not always the best.

Step back. Don't go to him. Don't offer dinner. Be nice around him as if nothing has happened. As if he lost his voice kinda thing. Realise that this will pass. One way or the other. If he continues to act like a child then he will force your hand and you may leave him. Your fear now is running the other way, that he will leave you. If he does, his loss. Believe that. Fake that belief if you have to.

Now that's all worse case scenario. The most likely secnario from what you've written here, is that this will pass, like before. OK it seems a heavier one, but still past behaviour is a good indicator of future behavior.

What do I do now?
It's completely against everything I've ever done in the past to do nothing. At the moment we're both sitting in the living room not talking to each other. Normally he'd have snapped out of his mood by now and we'd be laughing and joking. I'm actually worried this time. He seems extremely pissed off.

Well then I suspect the sex is not the issue. It's what brought it to a head. Have you got mates around? If so, suggest that he needs some space and so do you, so I'm meeting X tonight. I'll be back later. Do you want anything when I'm out. Be pleasant about it.

If he does bring up last night and you giving him grief? Do want to do something that people almost never do, but works like voodoo 90% of the time IME? Agree with him and do it with a smile on your face. Say "yes darling, you know you're right. I was a bit tired yesterday and I should have realised you needed to unwind. You were right to be peeved about it. I would prefer if we could get past this and have a lovely night tonight, but I can understand if you need space for yourself, so I'll leave you alone". Watch the reaction.

It's like judo, it uses their emotional weight against them and diffuses the reasons for their emotional response. Leaves them without reason to continue. Indeed they will feel foolish if they do. Now it may not be instant cos this will throw him if he's used to you getting upset, but you're not pushing anymore, so he has nothing to pull away from. You're agreeing and offering a solution which takes the wind out of their sails.

You will appear calm, confident and open and people find it incredibly difficult to leave or be angry with someone like that for long. I've even seen a serious fist fight about to kick off being diffused in seconds with that technique.

It;s not about giving in or surrender either. A lot may think that, but it's not. If you are a very confident emotionally centered person, a loved ones actions may hurt you, but it wont take away from you as a person. You will see it as more their problem, not yours. Many people mistake confidence for belligerence, or its most obvious guise of "standing up for yourself". It's not. I've met only 2 truly centered and confident people in my 41 years on this earth. One man one woman. I've met many who claim it or have a veneer of it though. Those two people would I'm quite sure, react as I've suggested above.

It's worth a try. If still he's acting like an arse tomorrow then the advice ,from I suspect many to leave may be worth taking, or at least thinking about, if even as a break.

I wish you luck.

Wibbs

argh123123 wrote: »

To be fair, I thought it was about the sex but I think it might have been a combination of that and the fact that I wasn't really the happiest about going out last night. Probably gave him more grief than he deserved.

Sorry missed that in my long winded rant:):o Yea reckoned it wasn't the sex. The sex was his way of looking for emotional support with some payback nonsense thrown in. IMHO men in relationships moreso express love and emotional attachment through sex more than women realise. Rejection hits them pretty hard. Women need love and emotional attachment moreso to want and enjoy sex. Obviously a generalisation, but I would believe it in my experience. He felt defensive becuse of his perception of your feelings towards the night out. So he clumsily tries to get back emotional attachment and maybe even forgiveness through intimacy. This gets knocked back by you. Naturally I might add as he doesn't seem to "get" women. Cue him doing an impression of an easter island statue.

LegacyUser

MagicMarker wrote: »

Try being a man, we have to put up with it every month for about a week or so.

Yeah poor poor men. Having to put up with 'it' every month. I don't know how you all cope! Life is so unfair!

OP it definitely sounds like there's something bigger going on here but I agree with other posters here in that you need to stop taking this childish treatment from him. We teach people how to treat us and if you don't respect yourself then nobody else will.

St Bill

MagicMarker wrote: »

Try being a man, we have to put up with it every month for about a week or so.

If this happens every few months then is it really such a big deal? He's given you the advice you need, just leave him be and he'll get over it.

And stop saying sorry!!

So you're going out with a girl who doesn't talk to you one week out of every month? Surely that's most guys idea of heaven ...har de har har :rolleyes:. Nothing like using a personal issue to get a dig in at the opposite sex
OP, if your boyfriend is in a strop for a few hours and needs his space, fair enough. But to carry it on over a day and a night is childish and immature. He needs to cop onto himself and grow up. Just ignore his tantrum because like a child what he really wants is your attention, and if you don't give it to him, he'll soon snap out of it.

MagicMarker

OP, you need to grow a backbone or he will continue to treat you like crap, it won't be anyone's fault but your own.

Tell him to grow up, if he wants to sulk like a child he can do it without a girlfriend.

MJOR

Everybody gets to be in a mood occasionally but he seems to be going to town a bit on this one. As wibbs the wonderful said the most prevalent emotion you feel right now is fear, women are naturally more emotive than men and react to these situations differently.

I think just act normal and if he doesn't snap out of it you have to let him know the effect this is having on you. It's not fair but hopefully it'll work out. But don't always feel like its ur fault or be constantly apologising because as Magic Marker said he'll keep thinking that its ok

Aurora Borealis

Yup basically keep your own reaction in check and if it still persists well you know you can walk head high. It's not easy to do when your emotions are engaged but it's certainly the best thing you can do given the situation. Don't envy you. Was a time I was writing similar posts but hopefully you'll handle it better than I did. Just keep remembering your emotions and reactions are your own.

b3t4

How you're putting up with his behaviour is beyond me.

Get out that door now. Do things with your friends and family and let him be damned. Go to the cinema, go for a walk. Just do not spend any extra time than you need to spend with him when he's behaving in such a manner.

You are not a doormat. You do not have to put up with every tantrum and whim of his. Go out on your own as well. As soon as he realises his strop isn't working he'll probably esculate things and then when you still don't cave he'll back down and realise how silly he's being.

I've pulled strops in the past and I'd be damned if anyone had put up with it.

A.

LegacyUser

Update number 2: After about an hour of not talking to each other I said he obviously didn't want me around so I was going to the gym and left for about 2 hours. When I got back he was in bed watching tv so I went up to suss out the mood. Still not talking to me. So I got into bed and watched tv but didn't say anything. After about half an hour he turned around and went to sleep. I was bloody knackered after everything and I fell asleep too. This was half 8 last night!! I woke about 3am and haven't slept since really. I think from his breathing he was in and out of sleep aswell. He wouldn't turn towards me or anything in the bed.

When we got up this morning he answered me when I asked him questions, in more words than he did last night, but still barely talking to me. I've never seen one of his moods last this long. Ever. I'm freaked out now over what it's about because surely it has to be something deeper than what he's said??

And thanks Wibbs, great advice, will try it.

Wibbs

The only reason I'm advising to stick with it, is that in your first post you say this stuff is rare. If it was a common thing I would suggest doing a runner.

The other reason I'm saying this stuff, is that you can't find out what's wrong if he's in silent mode. More to the point, you can't find out what's wrong if he's pulling away and you're pushing.

It sounds like he's got himself in an emotional loop. Upset about whatever - Silent treatment - pulls away - you push - he sees it work - he pulls away more - his feelings are reinforced - he keeps it up. Now in my humble, a lot of people doing this want to stop, but the boost he gets from it overpower that. Plus he'll feel "silly" if he climbs down now. In the past I would say his change was very rapid. One second all picture no sound, next second back to normal. Do it quick so his climb down is not obvious(to him).

Now how you stop pushing is as much to do with your attitude saying the words as the words themselves. You have to act unconcerned pretty much. Like the parent walking away from the child in the park, you just walk away as if it doesn't matter kinda thing.

Now the reason is gonna be a tough one. This reaction of his considering it's severity compared to normal argument, suggests it's something more than the obvious. It's not the sex. That was the end point, the excuse. Now if he's not good with dealing with his own emotions(most aren't), he's gonna find it difficult to express them. Express the real reason.

Do you take issue with him going out? How long are you with each other? How long have you moved in together? Is he in that stage between absolutely sure he wants to be with you for good and I love her and I'm making the decision to stay? The last one everyone goes through consciously or not.

These strong blow ups are a result of build up of an issue IMHO. This goes double for the silent type. They don't release pressure consistently, it builds up and then BANG!. I've mates like that. They're good men for the most part, but emotionally not so self aware. You have to tease the info and reason out of them.

Hopefully he'll have calmed down enough that you can get the answer you're looking for. The answer could be continue or leave. If you do the usual thing of, "harrumph I'm not going to stand for that!" there's only one answer possible IMHO. Or you'll be fighting him again sooner rather than later. So the real issue is do you want an answer to build a healthier future in an otherwise good relationship, or do you want to feel "right" for leaving it.

Good luck anyway. Sorry for the rambling.:o

LegacyUser

OP,

I read grow a backbone there a while agao - and thats what you have to do. if you saw someone treating your sister like this, youd be appalled and you should havve the same ammount of respect for yourself. This is emotional bullying full stop. Youre being weak in the face of it but strong in other ways. You need to step back and take a good long hard look at this guy and the way he treats you.

Your stress levels have been elevating with every post and Im sure your mind is a frezy at this stage. Even if this means breaking up, you have to be strong and send a message that you absolutley will not stand for this treatment. Oh sure.....every guy can have his strop but this is way OTT and does not qualify as a strop anymore.

Alot of men use meanness to get out of a relationship. They havent teh guts to come out and say what they want to say so they progressively make your life more miserable until something breaks.
So the hell what if you didnt want sex one time? its not the be all and end all unless your partner is super selfish or youre knocking him back constantly.

IMHO OP, I wouldnt be surprised if your bf backed this situation in to a corner of breaking point. Id start making sure that your accounts are in order - Ill bet he ooks after the bills - and that you have a net to catch you in case anything happens. His disgraceful behaviour is just the tip of the iceberg in what you can expect in years to come. I can promise you that.

Been there, done that. Buried him in the t shirt.

Storm_rages

Hi Op,

Hope you are doing ok? when you say you gave him grief, what sort of grief?
was it "ah hell honey, i'm not really in the mood to go out tonight?" or " you are always going out.. yak yak yak" cause in my view one is normal and should in no way lead to being ignored. The other may indeed start a bit of an issue...

So you have a couple of choices..

1) Give him the same treatment back (i would love to say i would not do this, because it does not really help.. but i would probably do this)
2) Go about your business in the same way and just keep talking to him till he is ready to talk to you (i'm not well behaved enough to do that)
3) Sit him down and find out what the problem is (i'm guess this would not work)

He has an issue, its up to him to tell you what it is? (and maybe he needs to sort it out in his own head) but honestly i would be very annoyed with him for this type of treatment..

LegacyUser

Thanks Wibb. You're advice is great. It makes sense.

It is very rare. He's normally totally chilled out but every now and again he just gets into these moods. I presume it's because he leaves things build up without saying anything and then a small thing makes him odd. I don't mind that too much. We all have things that annoy us about our OH's.

This one is annoying the hell out of me because A) I don't know the real reason It's going on for longer.

We're together 7 years. Living together for 5 of those.
It annoys me that it annoys me so much (if you know what I mean). I know I shouldn't pander to him and I try not to but I suppose I find it hard to deal with the fact that he finds it harder to deal with his emotions.

LegacyUser

I replied to Wibbs but it hasn't shown up. I'm not double posting but want to reply to the other posters.

Storm_rages: it was the "I don't really want to go out tonight but i'll go" grief. Well actually what it was was that I wanted to watch the end of the rugby match but where we were going to doors were closing at half 9 so we were under pressure for time. I only really moaned about it cuz I wanted him to agree to watch the end of it in the pub in town, which we did.

tbh I don't think it's his way of getting out of the relationship. We're together 7 years and have been happy out. No major fights or anything. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think it's that. I get the little niggly thing every now and again that maybe it is but we'll see. If he's still grumpy tonight I'll have it out with him. At the moment I'm just going about my business as if everything it hunky dorey.

Beruthiel

argh123123 wrote: »

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