World Cup Final. Australia V New Zealand. 22 Nov. SS2

toomevara

Games on at 9am. Teams unchanged for the final clash. As a Munster man, it pains me to say this but I'm hoping the Kiwis can pull off a shock and upset the 'Roos.

Australia: Slater, Monaghan, Inglis, Folau, Tate, Lockyer (captain), Thurston; Civoniceva, Smith, Price, Stewart, Laffranchi, Gallen.

Interchange: Hunt, Fitzgibbon, Tupou, Kite.

New Zealand: Hohaia, Perrett, Mannering, Ropati, Vatuvei, Marshall, Fien; N Cayless (captain), Leuluai, Blair, Harrison, Fa'alogo, Smith.

Interchange: Luke, Eastwood, Rapira, Manu.

mountain

interesting to note that 4 of the aussie squad are not born in the country,
similar to the all blacks, taking the best of the pacific islanders for themselves.





please correct me if the above is wrong.....

IH77

mountain wrote: »

interesting to note that 4 of the aussie squad are not born in the country,
similar to the all blacks, taking the best of the pacific islanders for themselves.





please correct me if the above is wrong.....

If you are including Laffranchi, Folau, Inglis or Thurston in those 4 (possibly because of their names/appearance), no they are actually all Aussie born. I think Tupou and Civoniceva are the only pacific island born players, but Civoniceva has been living in Aus and playing rugby league in Aus for over 12 years (that I know of). Not sure about Tupou's history.

So no, I don't think it's an issue of poaching players like other countries.

George Gregan was born in Zambia? Did the Aussies poach him?

corcaigh07

rugby league is so lame...

toomevara

Fantastic game thus far. kiwis playing out of their skin. Different proposition since Luke came on. First time in the comp I've seen the Aussies refereed properly in the tackle and on the line. Brilliant stuff.

toomevara

corcaigh07 wrote: »

rugby league is so lame...

Ah a fantastically intellectual and insightful contribution to the forum.. Now be a good fellow and feck off and troll somewhere else....

Xavi6

corcaigh07 wrote: »

rugby league is so lame...

:rolleyes: Good contribution

RuggieBear

corcaigh07 wrote: »

rugby league is so lame...

banned. permanent actually so you don't have to worry about league again.

toomevara

Good God!!!! What was Slater doing? Astonishing...this could be the greatest rugby League upset in years.....

mountain

10 mins to go, nz 2 up,

to close to call, but..








australia to scrape home by 2.

toomevara

Penalty try for me..has ganson got the balls????

toomevara

Yes, delighted.

mountain

crikey!

toomevara

What a game.!..if The Roos win this, they'll thoroughly deserve it. Brilliant stuff.

toomevara

Jaysis, that looks like a try! What were the odds?

KevIRL

Only started watching the game at the start of the second half. Great performance by NZ.

What sort of odds were Australia before the game started?

mountain

fair play to the kiwis, better team on the day,
reall held on after it looked like the aussies were going to run away with it at 10-0.

delighted for wayne bennett as well

Xavi6

Unbelievable stuff! Fair play to the Kiwis.

toomevara

Brilliant game, superb stuff from the Kiwis and you'd have to say a great result for the game of Rugby League...Hohaia immense, Marshall huge and Vatuvei, what can you say. Biggest upset in my lifetime....well done the Kiwis.

mountain

how bad must lockyer feel, called up as man of the match, after being beaten by 14 points, surely a kiwi should of been up there as man of match.

IH77

Big upset by the kiwis who outsmarted the Aussies.

I don't condone the action that lead to the penalty try but thought it was harsh to give it. But that's probably me (as an aussie) being biased .

The real turning point was when Slater threw that shocking ball, he should be immediately stripped of the title "best international player"!! Kiwis never looked back after that,

It hurts to say it but well done NZ.

Diamondmaker

Wow what a shock !

I would have gone if I had of tjought there would have been any sort of competiton. The Kiws sure showed me and the rest of the RLWC public.

Amazing shock and such a great game.

The penalty try was the better of the 2 possible results for the deliberate, high off the ball tackle.

The other alternative was a sin binning and 6 more on the 5, that surely would have killed the game as thy were 8 up at that point I think.

The critical mo was of course Billy Whiz goes crazy !

The only criticism of the game I can have is I live so close that I could hear the crowd celebrate score 2 secs before I saw them on TV

slinger99

Good on the Kiwis.Thought some of the aussies were smirking when they marched twords the haka.Just goes to show the beauty of sport!!:)

IH77

slinger99 wrote: »

Good on the Kiwis.Thought some of the aussies were smirking when they marched twords the haka.Just goes to show the beauty of sport!!:)

I reckon it must be hard to keep a straight face when someone is sticking their toungue in your face !

amacachi

Great match. Aussies' third try was brilliant and I thought the first half by both teams showed all that's great about the sport, huge hits, massive speed and liberal helpings of skill.

Delighted to see the Kiwis win.

slinger99

IH77 wrote: »

I reckon it must be hard to keep a straight face when someone is sticking their toungue in your face !

IN maori culture,sticking you tounge out dooesnt mean the same as 2 kids in the playground...it, to my knowledge is a sign of agression and is to insill fear in your enemy...the haka is pure agression in sporting/culture terms

IH77

slinger99 wrote: »

IN maori culture,sticking you tounge out dooesnt mean the same as 2 kids in the playground...it, to my knowledge is a sign of agression and is to insill fear in your enemy...the haka is pure agression in sporting/culture terms

that's exactly what it is. But it doesn't mean it doesn't appear comical to someone not of that culture.

juvenal

Any highlights of this online?

Edit: Found a decent vid here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vKNZabTsFM

juvenal

I don't really know a lot about RL laws and only take a passing interest, so perhaps Toomevara or some of the other RL heads here can clear up a question I have regarding the second NZ try.

Surely Benji Marshall knocked on the ball before Ropati scooped it up and scored the try? Or does the strip not count as a knock-on? I would class Marshall as being in control of the ball before the contact was made, and therefore it was his momentum that caused the ball to go forward after it was stripped?

Other than that, looked like a great game, with all the ingredients for a great final. I'm not sure what Billy Slater was thinking. No matter what he does in the rest of his career, he'll be forever remembered for that, just like Bill Buckner.:D

toomevara

juvenal wrote: »

Surely Benji Marshall knocked on the ball before Ropati scooped it up and scored the try? Or does the strip not count as a knock-on?

A Strip is a penalty, so the ref just played advantage...hence the try.

juvenal

toomevara wrote: »

A Strip is a penalty, so the ref just played advantage...hence the try.

So stripping the ball from your opponent is a penalty against you?!

88show

juvenal wrote: »

So stripping the ball from your opponent is a penalty against you?!

if you go into a tackle to intentionally 'play' at the ball before the player constitutes a penalty.

88show

mountain wrote: »

how bad must lockyer feel, called up as man of the match, after being beaten by 14 points, surely a kiwi should of been up there as man of match.

personally I don't think they got it wrong.
Lockyer can never ever be unmarked or he will convert that into points, always has always will.
has done for brizzy, state of origin so can never be underestimated.

he found holes in the defence, broke the lines zillion times, got tries organised a cocky side into a near win.
poor discipline lost them the game i think.
cayless would have been one of my kiwi picks

88show

personally I as alot back home have waited along time for this day and I believed I could here the bro's and sis laughing from here!
cher boys, tu meke!!!

IH77

toomevara wrote: »

A Strip is a penalty, so the ref just played advantage...hence the try.

Actually no, a strip effected "one on one" is not a penalty, it is play on (like in Ropati's try).

If there is more than one person in the tackle the a the ball cannot be stripped. The law was changed a few years ago to put more responsibility on the ball runner to actually hold onto the ball.

toomevara

IH77 wrote: »

Actually no, a strip effected "one on one" is not a penalty, it is play on (like in Ropati's try).

Yes you're right, my use of terminology a bit slack...the ball was 'played at' in this case not stripped...

slinger99

IH77 wrote: »

that's exactly what it is. But it doesn't mean it doesn't appear comical to someone not of that culture.

Too true...although if your facing the haks..theres usually physical pain on the way:eek: