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Signs in the Sky

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  • #2
    Gareth37
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Gareth37


    Some of links for dancing sun do not work, just google on youtube dancing sun, miracle of sun etc


  • #3
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Out of curiosity, which ones are impossible to brush off?


  • #4
    Corcaigh84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭Corcaigh84


    In fairness, when we see the sun, moon and stars, we see light that has travelled extremely long distances, and is then distorted by our atmosphere, and then again by whatever cheapy lens it happens to be captured on.

    And yes, clouds sometimes form weird shapes that remind us of familiar things!

    Nothing to see here, move along...


  • #5
    Gareth37
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Gareth37


    thefloss wrote: »
    In fairness, when we see the sun, moon and stars, we see light that has travelled extremely long distances, and is then distorted by our atmosphere, and then again by whatever cheapy lens it happens to be captured on.

    And yes, clouds sometimes form weird shapes that remind us of familiar things!

    Nothing to see here, move along...

    When you see them with your own eyes?


  • #6
    Gareth37
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Gareth37


    humanji wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, which ones are impossible to brush off?

    Most. Would like to see your explanations.


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  • #7
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Most. Would like to see your explanations.

    Fair enough.

    1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGCRBrV0f2s
    Apart from simply being a bad video, the people in the car are driving beside telephone lines. The sun light looks like it's flicker as the cables pass in front of it.
    2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep_UR...eature=related
    Link doesn't work.
    3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giqPG...eature=related
    Link doesn't work.
    4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsYk9...eature=related
    Link doesn't work.


    5. Yemen:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGCyYujX9rc
    Parahelic circle
    6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrh_fxKwBlM
    Parahelic circle
    7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWrgIf5N2Zg
    I've no idea what this is. It's just a load of photos.
    8. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj0Fr...watch_response
    Link doesn't work.

    Clouds
    1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EVOf6GyNUw
    Parahelic circle
    2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5VUTNLI4Uo&feature=related
    A funny looking cloud, or possible proof that Gandalg the White is coming.
    3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvSHGx1ZO50&feature=related
    An approaching storm.
    4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGXwkv0N3uM&feature=related
    A fancy cloud that looks like a sword, or possibly a dragon breathing fire, or possibly a million different things depending on how you look at it.
    5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv6EZlWeiF8&feature=related
    This one actually looks pretty cool. But to me it seems that it's smoke from a chimney with light from the right hand side of the screen refracting off it. Or, and this seems more likely, it's a light reflecting on the window in front of him and he's positioned the camera so that it's above the house a head of him.
    6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuVCZ07UdM8&feature=related
    A cloud that looks like a Klingon Bird Of Prey flying to the right.
    7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkTSp-rZnPE&feature=related
    Here's another one that looks really cool. But it looks light a ray of sun light breaking through the clouds. The colours are the light refracting off the water particles in the cloud. Same as in a rainbow.


    Moon
    1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5h_qoHCn7k
    Some facts about the sun, Earth and moon?
    2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCEbLPMfaoM
    A shot of the moon in either the morning or evening as the sun is setting.
    3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdO_tqP_Rwk&feature=related - Dublin
    Someone holding the white balance on a video camera. You'll note that as the moon changes colour, so do all the lights. The camera is trying to define the value of white, but is struggling because of all the light sources.
    4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff1xZNddQIE&feature=related
    Another cool shot. Looks to me like the sun being distorted by somethign, possilbly heat rising, in the same way you may see it if you ever see footage of the sun rising or setting in Africa on a hot day. But this one I actually don't know about.
    5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3un84Vvyys - Dancing Moon
    Ah come on! The actual description is the reflection of the moon on a river...

    Stars
    1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW4E_Ak19x0
    I'm no astronomer, but the comments on that page seem to say it's Saturn. Personally, it looks like a speck of white. I'm not sure what the people in the video are refering to or what I should be seeing.
    2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf8M-mQNBe8&feature=related - Dancing Stars
    Looks like a planet and some shaky camerawork.
    3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnQL80Df0dM&feature=related
    I just see what looks like a star with lense flair.
    4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHzsQInaF14
    And another that I'm not sure what I'm meant to be looking at. The video mentions orange lights. This could be pollution distorting light or it could be lights on hills surrounding the area. Who knows without more info.

    And all that's from a casual glance at the videos. Imagine what someone smart and actually at the locations could tell you. :)


  • #8
    studiorat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055419939


  • #9
    Madge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Madge


    This might be a dumb question... but what about when the sun has no glare off it, I mean when you can look straight at it without shielding your eyes? How is that possible?


  • #10
    Gareth37
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Gareth37


    Madge wrote: »
    This might be a dumb question... but what about when the sun has no glare off it, I mean when you can look straight at it without shielding your eyes? How is that possible?

    Yes, you can look straight at it. Also, the eucharist goes in front of the sun.

    It is certainly supernatural but some people say that its demons abusing Mary's image but once I saw it I felt like saying sorry to God and I just wanted to serve God. How could a demon bring such emotion I wonder?

    I hope God can help me make sense of it for it confuses me greatly.


  • #11
    toiletduck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭toiletduck


    Which ones are impossible to explain? I've looked at a few and nothing amazing.

    A question though, how come astronomers don't report this like ever? I would imagine that the sheer amount (both professional and amateur) plus the fact that they look at the sky more than most would mean they'd see lots of this? Could it be that due to proper training they're able to recognise what the atmospheric distortions or whatever actually are?


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  • #12
    Gareth37
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Gareth37


    toiletduck wrote: »
    Which ones are impossible to explain? I've looked at a few and nothing amazing.

    A question though, how come astronomers don't report this like ever? I would imagine that the sheer amount (both professional and amateur) plus the fact that they look at the sky more than most would mean they'd see lots of this? Could it be that due to proper training they're able to recognise what the atmospheric distortions or whatever actually are?

    The fact that science cannot explain it means that it is supernatural. Astromeners only see the scientific, not the supernatural.


  • #13
    toiletduck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭toiletduck


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    The fact that science cannot explain it means that it is supernatural. Astromeners only see the scientific, not the supernatural.

    I imagine they'd definitely see the Sun/Moon/Stars dancing around the sky same as everyone else if it were happening.

    Which of the videos are inexplicable?


  • #14
    Gareth37
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Gareth37


    toiletduck wrote: »
    I imagine they'd definitely see the Sun/Moon/Stars dancing around the sky same as everyone else if it were happening.

    Which of the videos are inexplicable?

    Well to me, the videos of the sun dancing for I saw this myself so it is not a camera trick. Lets hope and pray to God that these signs come from God and not the Evil One.


  • #15
    toiletduck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭toiletduck


    I really don't think that video cuts it at all.
    Lets hope and pray to God that these signs come from God and not the Evil One.

    What makes you think it's not aliens, for example, behind it?


  • #16
    studiorat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    Yes, you can look straight at it. Also, the eucharist goes in front of the sun.

    Please do not look straight at the sun.


  • #17
    Shinjuku
    Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭Shinjuku


    Oh jesus christ.


  • #18
    Fanny Cradock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,245 ✭✭✭✭Fanny Cradock


    Probably not the best thing to say here.


  • #19
    Shinjuku
    Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭Shinjuku


    Sorry Fanny.

    This all just seems a bit mental if you don't mind me saying!

    Another similar thread by the OP http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055419939


  • #20
    PDN
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,686 ✭✭✭✭PDN


    studiorat wrote: »
    Please do not look straight at the sun.

    I'm thinking a few people have spent too long in the sun.


  • #21
    studiorat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    A red face and a communion sized white spot on his forehead:D


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  • #22
    Gareth37
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Gareth37


    To be honest Im not sure that any of the signs apart from dancing sun are messages. I take the Dancing Sun to be miraculous since there is no scientific explanation and the fact it makes the sign of the Holy Trinity and the Eucharist confirms its supernatural, either directly or via nature.

    The other signs can all be explained I think, mostly down to different weather conditions.


  • #23
    Shinjuku
    Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭Shinjuku


    A dancing sun. Ok.


  • #24
    condra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭condra


    The other signs can all be explained I think, mostly down to different weather conditions.
    Bit of a U-Turn. Don't you feel just a bit gullable now?


  • #25
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Clouds?! Surely a sign from God!


  • #26
    Shinjuku
    Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭Shinjuku


    This person needs help.


  • #27
    Gareth37
    Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Gareth37


    Shinjuku wrote: »
    This person needs help.

    No, I assure you that Im fine. ;)

    Are you sure that its I who needs the help?


  • #28
    CerebralCortex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭CerebralCortex


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    No, I assure you that Im fine. ;)

    Are you sure that its I who needs the help?

    Definitely.


    PS why did you pick Dhalsim as your avatar?


  • #29
    AtomicHorror
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    The fact that science cannot explain it means that it is supernatural.

    You make my brain sore.

    Tell me, was tuberculosis supernatural before we developed germ theory? Were the motions of the planets supernatural before we understood gravity? For that matter was "falling over" supernatural before then?

    The unexplained is merely unexplained. Science encompasses all that we can observe and model. The supernatural is a myth, a hand-waving vagary invented to fill in the gaps before we realised that science was the way. There is only the observable and the unobservable. Both are natural.

    Nothing you've listed is going to make anyone with a little rational imagination lose any sleep.
    Gareth37 wrote: »
    Astromeners only see the scientific, not the supernatural.

    I'm confused, can the astronomers not see these phenomena you've described? When they open the YouTube links do they just get a blank screen?

    I get the feeling that you really, really want some awesome biblical stuff to happen in your lifetime. Maybe you're bored or feeling meaningless, I don't know. Isn't there enough crazy stuff happening in the world without the need to search for a grand plan in it all?


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