Ideal height for a drum room?

dav nagle

Any clues of what the ideal height of a drum room may be for rock?

PaulBrewer

dav nagle wrote: »

Any clues of what the ideal height of a drum room may be for rock?

Height doesn't exist by itself! It's in relation to Length + Width.

dav nagle

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Height doesn't exist by itself! It's in relation to Length + Width.

4.5 meters by 4 meters, any idea?

i57dwun4yb1pt8

from my own research and experience a small room with a very high ceiling works very well if you want to use the room sound

so anything around 10 feet and above - 12 feet be better ( about 3.5 meteres )
phil collins in the air tonight was recorded in a small atrium with a very high ceiling
so that magic tom sound was the room combined with the desk talk back compressor on the room mic ( s)

and acdc back in black - the producer banged a snare around the studio until it sounded good,
and later found that the ceiling above the good sounding spot was a thin false one with a large space above it going up .

seems to let the kit breath if it has aload of air above it .

id give anything for a high celing in my poxy cube .

dav nagle

DaDumTish wrote: »

from my own research and experience a small room with a very high ceiling works very well if you want to use the room sound

so anything around 10 feet and above - 12 feet be better ( about 3.5 meteres )
phil collins in the air tonight was recorded in a small atrium with a very high ceiling
so that magic tom sound was the room combined with the desk talk back compressor on the room mic ( s)

and acdc back in black - the producer banged a snare around the studio until it sounded good,
and later found that the ceiling above the good sounding spot was a thin false one with a large space above it going up .

seems to let the kit breath if it has aload of air above it .

id give anything for a high celing in my poxy cube .

Some very useful information, regards.

Neurojazz

Depends on how high you throw your sticks up during epic drum solos.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

of couurse ;-) that goes without saying .
and also so you can lob them up to hit the guitarist on the head if tracking live.

PaulBrewer

DaDumTish wrote: »

phil collins in the air tonight was recorded in a small atrium with a very high ceiling
so that magic tom sound was the room combined with the desk talk back compressor on the room mic ( s)

The Townhouse drum room was (is?) 5 metres high ..

Here's a pic-


Here's a video of Tony Platt who recorded Back in Black -

http://www.recordproduction.com/tony_platt4.htm

i57dwun4yb1pt8

ok bit higher than i thought , but jesus that room just screams " fcuking awsome drum sound "

TelePaul

I have a conservatory, wooden floors, glass ceiling and walls, 12' x 25' x 12'. Would drums recorded there sound...well, interesting?

PaulBrewer

TelePaul wrote: »

I have a conservatory, wooden floors, glass ceiling and walls, 12' x 25' x 12'. Would drums recorded there sound...well, interesting?

To say the least!!

I think from a drum sound point of view 'BIG' is coming back. I really noticed the last few years a lot of UK based music that I'd be into have had quite dry drums.

As is always the case the pendulum has started to swing the other way - Glas Vegas being a fine example.

We felt those Evora tracks we did was good material for that approach .

PaulBrewer

DaDumTish wrote: »

ok bit higher than i thought , but jesus that room just screams " fcuking awsome drum sound "

The guy who designed the room, Philip Newell sent that photo. He has similar rooms built in Spain and Portugal now as the local raw materials and building construction suit such an approach.

TelePaul

PaulBrewer wrote: »

To say the least!!

I think from a drum sound point of view 'BIG' is coming back. I really noticed the last few years a lot of UK based music that I'd be into have had quite dry drums.

As is always the case the pendulum has started to swing the other way - Glas Vegas being a fine example.

We felt those Evora tracks we did was good material for that approach .

I miss the reverby snares of the 80s!!! I guess the philosophy is that you can always simulate space with plug-ins after the fact.